Re: Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-19 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> rom: Paul Koning

> WD-40 is a good solvent to use for adhesives stuck to plastic. It's
> unlikely to hurt the plastic but it will soften the glue.

My go-to solvent for non-ionized glue residues (use water for ionized) on all
sorts of materials has been, for many years, mineral spirits (US name; 'white
spirit', in the UK):

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit

It scores highly on both i) 'doesn't harm underlying material' and ii) 'softens 
residues'
axes. (I've mostly used it on books, to remove stickers, but my experience 
should
transfer to use on computers.)

> As always, check on a hidden part of the case to make sure the
> particular plastic doesn't object to the stuff you're using.

Sage, and important, advice for _any_ removal method.

Noel


Re: Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-19 Thread jacob--- via cctalk

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:


On Nov 18, 2021, at 6:37 AM, Mike Katz via cctalk  wrote:





This is a great question, it applies not just to the Cube, but to any Apple 
system of that vintage.



Plastics preservation is a huge topic, the art museums have alot of 
experience there, identifying that you have is the first hurdel.


The earlier models I got

Macintosh plus
IIvi
lc 475
Quadra 660AV

do seems to hold up alot better than the later models

9500/150
7600/120
lc 630

the plastic especialy the typed used inside the cases is brittle like the 
SGI skins


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Re: Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-19 Thread jacob--- via cctalk

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:


On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 03:34:19PM +0100, jacob--- via cctalk wrote:
 > Brasso, T-Cut, or similar come in useful if you manage to scratch it 
anyway.

Test your technique on some matching scrap plastic first before moving on to
the case. You say "polycarbonate" but Wikipedia says "acrylic", and these
have quite different mechanical properties so you should verify which
plastic the case is actually made from. Maybe the resin code will tell you,
but I suspect it'll just say 7 (other).



From all I have been dig up on it, its polycarbonat that was used for the 

outer casing, going on that it seems wd-40 would be a no go.

I ended up tested with ethanol on the buttom feets, seing no ill effect after some 
time, I tested it on the glue and I started to see miscolouring of the 
papertowle, the glue was comming off.



If all else fails, style it out by sticking your own label over it :)


:) good advice also if attempts had made it worse

Thanks to all for advices

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Re: Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-18 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 01:09:34PM -0500, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> On Nov 18, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk 
>  wrote:
>> I assume you've already attempted to throw the usual household stuff at it
>> as if it was a phone or TV. If not, dig out the glass cleaner and microfibre
>> cloths and get onto that.
>> 
>> In addition to the plausible suggestion elsethread of WD-40, I'd also give
>> it a gentle waft of a hairdryer (or heat gun set suitably-low) to try and
>> melt the glue without melting the plastic, and then it may be more amenable
>> to wiping-off.

... and then you snipped the following paragraph where I pointed out the
case may be acrylic rather than polycarbonate, which is kind of important
given this:

> One other possibility is ethanol. But be sure to test that first, because
> it WILL damage plexiglas ("lucite"). That's about the only plastic it
> hurts, though.

Plexiglas and Lucite are brand names for acrylic.



Re: Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk



> On Nov 18, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 03:34:19PM +0100, jacob--- via cctalk wrote:
>> I got a Apple cube here as part of a larger haul, at some point someone
>> placed a bit of tape on the clear polycarbonate case, the tape is long
>> gone but the yellow glue remains.
> 
>> Am unsure about the hardness of it, if I could use sugar cubes to rub it
>> off, anyone knows a scratch free way to get it off ?
> 
> I assume you've already attempted to throw the usual household stuff at it
> as if it was a phone or TV. If not, dig out the glass cleaner and microfibre
> cloths and get onto that.
> 
> In addition to the plausible suggestion elsethread of WD-40, I'd also give
> it a gentle waft of a hairdryer (or heat gun set suitably-low) to try and
> melt the glue without melting the plastic, and then it may be more amenable
> to wiping-off.

One other possibility is ethanol.  But be sure to test that first, because it 
WILL damage plexiglas ("lucite"). That's about the only plastic it hurts, 
though.

paul



Re: Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-18 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 03:34:19PM +0100, jacob--- via cctalk wrote:
> I got a Apple cube here as part of a larger haul, at some point someone
> placed a bit of tape on the clear polycarbonate case, the tape is long
> gone but the yellow glue remains.

> Am unsure about the hardness of it, if I could use sugar cubes to rub it
> off, anyone knows a scratch free way to get it off ?

I assume you've already attempted to throw the usual household stuff at it
as if it was a phone or TV. If not, dig out the glass cleaner and microfibre
cloths and get onto that.

In addition to the plausible suggestion elsethread of WD-40, I'd also give
it a gentle waft of a hairdryer (or heat gun set suitably-low) to try and
melt the glue without melting the plastic, and then it may be more amenable
to wiping-off.

Brasso, T-Cut, or similar come in useful if you manage to scratch it anyway.
Test your technique on some matching scrap plastic first before moving on to
the case. You say "polycarbonate" but Wikipedia says "acrylic", and these
have quite different mechanical properties so you should verify which
plastic the case is actually made from. Maybe the resin code will tell you,
but I suspect it'll just say 7 (other).

If all else fails, style it out by sticking your own label over it :)



Re: Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-18 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Nov 18, 2021, at 6:37 AM, Mike Katz via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> Have you tried Goo Gone?


I’d be scared to try Goo Gone on a Apple Cube case.  IIRC, it’s not exactly 
normal plastic.

As Paul points out, try whatever is used on a spot that will be out of view.

This is a great question, it applies not just to the Cube, but to any Apple 
system of that vintage.

Zane





Re: Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
A chemical engineer friend in the adhesives business told me years ago that 
WD-40 is a good solvent to use for adhesives stuck to plastic.  It's unlikely 
to hurt the plastic but it will soften the glue.  It's not fast but it does 
work.  As always, check on a hidden part of the case to make sure the 
particular plastic doesn't object to the stuff you're using.

paul

> On Nov 18, 2021, at 9:37 AM, Mike Katz via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Have you tried Goo Gone?
> 
> On 11/18/2021 8:34 AM, jacob--- via cctalk wrote:
>> 
>> I got a Apple cube here as part of a larger haul, at some point someone 
>> placed a bit of tape on the clear polycarbonate case, the tape is long gone 
>> but the yellow glue remains.
>> 
>> Am unsure about the hardness of it, if I could use sugar cubes to rub it 
>> off, anyone knows a scratch free way to get it off ?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> -- 
>> Jacob Dahl Pind | telefisk.org | fidonet 2:230/38.8
>> 
> 



Re: Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-18 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk

Have you tried Goo Gone?

On 11/18/2021 8:34 AM, jacob--- via cctalk wrote:


I got a Apple cube here as part of a larger haul, at some point 
someone placed a bit of tape on the clear polycarbonate case, the tape 
is long gone but the yellow glue remains.


Am unsure about the hardness of it, if I could use sugar cubes to rub 
it off, anyone knows a scratch free way to get it off ?


Regards

--
Jacob Dahl Pind | telefisk.org | fidonet 2:230/38.8





Apple cube cleaning

2021-11-18 Thread jacob--- via cctalk



I got a Apple cube here as part of a larger haul, at some point someone 
placed a bit of tape on the clear polycarbonate case, the tape is long 
gone but the yellow glue remains.


Am unsure about the hardness of it, if I could use sugar cubes to 
rub it off, anyone knows a scratch free way to get it off ?


Regards

--
Jacob Dahl Pind | telefisk.org | fidonet 2:230/38.8