RE: Connecting LK250 to VAXmate

2019-11-14 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Hello Jason,

 

I have all the bits necessary to make a cable for the LK250 now, without 
butchering the IBM Model M cable I bought (which turns out to only have 4 out 
of 6 wires). All I need now is the pinout. I have the VAXmate technical 
description which gives me pin numbers and signals for the cable, but I am not 
really sure how that maps to the connector pins. So, if you, or anyone else, 
could tell me the pinout for the LK250 cable I would be very grateful. From the 
technical description it looks like I may be able to get away with only 4 
wires, not sure.

 

Thanks

 

Rob 

 

From: Jason T  
Sent: 15 June 2019 14:46
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Subject: Re: Connecting LK250 to VAXmate

 

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 03:28 Rob Jarratt via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote:

I recently acquired a VAXmate with an LK250 keyboard. The problem is the
keyboard came without the cable. It uses an 8-pin SDL connector and the
usual tiny MMJ-like connector at the keyboard end. I don't know the pinout
and I don't have the necessary crimping tools, is there any source for such
a cable?

 

Is it actually MMJ, with the offset pin, like a DEC serial cable? Or is it just 
an RJ connector like a telephone handset?  And is the SDL end the same type as 
on an IBM model M keyboard?

 

I have a VAXmate buried in storage. With enough prodding I could dig it out and 
try to determine the pinout of the cable. 



Re: Connecting LK250 to VAXmate

2019-06-15 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk



> On Jun 15, 2019, at 9:45 AM, Jason T via cctalk  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 03:28 Rob Jarratt via cctalk 
> wrote:
> 
>> I recently acquired a VAXmate with an LK250 keyboard. The problem is the
>> keyboard came without the cable. It uses an 8-pin SDL connector and the
>> usual tiny MMJ-like connector at the keyboard end. I don't know the pinout
>> and I don't have the necessary crimping tools, is there any source for such
>> a cable?
>> 
> 
> Is it actually MMJ, with the offset pin, like a DEC serial cable? Or is it
> just an RJ connector like a telephone handset?  And is the SDL end the same
> type as on an IBM model M keyboard?
> 
> I have a VAXmate buried in storage. With enough prodding I could dig it out
> and try to determine the pinout of the cable.

LK201 keyboards use a telephone handset type connector.  You might try a 
handset cord, though it's possible those don't work because of not having 
enough copper in them.  At least I remember being told that handset cords have 
"tinsel wire" in them, while LK201 cords use real wire.

paul




RE: Connecting LK250 to VAXmate

2019-06-15 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Sorry, yes, I meant RJ like for a telephone. I believe the SDL end may be like 
an IBM but I don’t know, it is one of these: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shielded_data_link_connector

 

Regards

 

Rob

 

From: Jason T  
Sent: 15 June 2019 14:46
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts ; 
robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com; r...@jarratt.me.uk
Subject: Re: Connecting LK250 to VAXmate

 

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 03:28 Rob Jarratt via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote:

I recently acquired a VAXmate with an LK250 keyboard. The problem is the
keyboard came without the cable. It uses an 8-pin SDL connector and the
usual tiny MMJ-like connector at the keyboard end. I don't know the pinout
and I don't have the necessary crimping tools, is there any source for such
a cable?

 

Is it actually MMJ, with the offset pin, like a DEC serial cable? Or is it just 
an RJ connector like a telephone handset?  And is the SDL end the same type as 
on an IBM model M keyboard?

 

I have a VAXmate buried in storage. With enough prodding I could dig it out and 
try to determine the pinout of the cable. 



Re: Connecting LK250 to VAXmate

2019-06-15 Thread Jason T via cctalk
On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 03:28 Rob Jarratt via cctalk 
wrote:

> I recently acquired a VAXmate with an LK250 keyboard. The problem is the
> keyboard came without the cable. It uses an 8-pin SDL connector and the
> usual tiny MMJ-like connector at the keyboard end. I don't know the pinout
> and I don't have the necessary crimping tools, is there any source for such
> a cable?
>

Is it actually MMJ, with the offset pin, like a DEC serial cable? Or is it
just an RJ connector like a telephone handset?  And is the SDL end the same
type as on an IBM model M keyboard?

I have a VAXmate buried in storage. With enough prodding I could dig it out
and try to determine the pinout of the cable.

>


Connecting LK250 to VAXmate

2019-06-15 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
I recently acquired a VAXmate with an LK250 keyboard. The problem is the
keyboard came without the cable. It uses an 8-pin SDL connector and the
usual tiny MMJ-like connector at the keyboard end. I don't know the pinout
and I don't have the necessary crimping tools, is there any source for such
a cable?

 

Thanks

 

Rob