RE: ContrAlto V1.1 Released

2016-10-29 Thread Paul Birkel


-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Josh Dersch
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 2:13 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: ContrAlto V1.1 Released

OK, one more time with feeling, because apparently when I pasted that link it 
added a bunch of garbage (thanks, Outlook Web Access!).

If you want to get ContrAlto, the actual, real, working link is:

http://www.livingcomputers.org/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx

Sorry for the confusion and/or stupidity on my part...

- Josh

-
Thanks Josh; it's a wonderful contribution.

I remember a database being written for the Alto; it used the relational model. 
 I believe that it was related to INGRES, but I have only a hazy recollection 
and can't remember the name -- although I would likely recognize it anyone else 
has further information.

We used it along with a graphical post-processor to prepare office-assignment 
floor-plans at CMU in the early 80's.  My recollection is that the principal 
uses for the CMU Altos at that time were as PostScript-based printer-drivers 
("Dover" and "Calais" were our name-assignments).  Our use in space-planning 
was a quirk, and possibly the last remaining regular use of the few remaining 
machines.  I definitely don't remember any machine-time contention; I believe 
that there were two available for general-use.  I just brought along my 
disk-pack and would boot and have-at-it.

Never thought about it all becoming (near) ancient history ...

paul



RE: ContrAlto V1.1 Released

2016-10-29 Thread Josh Dersch
OK, one more time with feeling, because apparently when I pasted that link it 
added a bunch of garbage (thanks, Outlook Web Access!).

If you want to get ContrAlto, the actual, real, working link is:

http://www.livingcomputers.org/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx

Sorry for the confusion and/or stupidity on my part...

- Josh

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Josh
> Dersch
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:30 AM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: ContrAlto V1.1 Released
> 
> On 10/28/16 5:56 AM, william degnan wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Josh Dersch
> > <jo...@livingcomputers.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all --
> >>
> >> Just wanted to let you guys know that a new version of the Xerox Alto
> >> emulator I've been working on at the LCM+L has been released; V1.1 of
> >> ContrAlto can be downloaded from: http://www.livingcomputers.
> >> org/Join/Online-Systems.aspx.  At this point, the vast majority of
> >> software appears to be working properly, if you do run into any
> >> issues please let me know!
> >>
> >> ContrAlto is open source, so if you want to hack on it the source is
> >> available on our GitHub site at https://github.com/
> >> livingcomputermuseum/ContrAlto.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> - Josh
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Having trouble reaching a link following through to download from
> > http://prevlcm2.corp.vnw.com/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx
> >
> Yep.  Our new website is going through some teething problems. Until
> they're resolved, use:
> 
> http://www.livingcomputers.org/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx
> <https://mail.vulcan.com/owa/redir.aspx?C=zDjrHPRZbJW_iYBHBE6hxlLP0M
> Va7eQPnMcovYMFBZkfQxyQT__TCA..=http%3a%2f%2fwww.livingcom
> puters.org%2fJoin%2fOnline-Systems%2fContraltoSetup.aspx>
> 
> To download the emulator.
> 
> Thanks,
> Josh


Re: ContrAlto V1.1 Released

2016-10-28 Thread Josh Dersch
On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Josh Dersch  wrote:

>  Having trouble reaching a link following through to download 
> fromhttp://prevlcm2.corp.vnw.com/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx
>
> Yep.  Our new website is going through some teething problems.  Until
> they're resolved, use:
>
> http://www.livingcomputers.org/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx
> 
>
> To download the emulator.
>
> Thanks,
> Josh
>


Ad apparently Outlook Web Access completely mangled that URL when I
pasted it into Thunderbird this morning.  Why?  Because apparently
technology hates me this week.
(For the record the *text* of the link above is fine, but if you're using a
fancy-pants mailer the actual hyperlink that's provided is bogus.  Sigh.)

Here's the real link, for real this time: OK, one more time with feeling,
because apparently when I pasted that link it added a bunch of garbage
(thanks, Outlook Web Access!).

http://www.livingcomputers.org/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx

 Sorry for the confusion and/or stupidity on my part...



- Josh


Re: ContrAlto V1.1 Released

2016-10-28 Thread Josh Dersch

On 10/28/16 5:56 AM, william degnan wrote:


On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Josh Dersch 
wrote:


Hi all --

Just wanted to let you guys know that a new version of the Xerox Alto
emulator I've been working on at the LCM+L has been released; V1.1 of
ContrAlto can be downloaded from: http://www.livingcomputers.
org/Join/Online-Systems.aspx.  At this point, the vast majority of
software appears to be working properly, if you do run into any issues
please let me know!

ContrAlto is open source, so if you want to hack on it the source is
available on our GitHub site at https://github.com/
livingcomputermuseum/ContrAlto.

Thanks!
- Josh





Having trouble reaching a link following through to download from
http://prevlcm2.corp.vnw.com/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx

Yep.  Our new website is going through some teething problems. Until 
they're resolved, use:


http://www.livingcomputers.org/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx 



To download the emulator.

Thanks,
Josh


Re: ContrAlto V1.1 Released

2016-10-28 Thread Mike Ross
On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 10:25 AM, SPC  wrote:
> 2016-10-27 22:50 GMT+02:00 Josh Dersch :
>
>> ContrAlto can be downloaded from:
>> http://www.livingcomputers.org/Join/Online-Systems.aspx.
>>
>>  Thanks!
>>
>> - Josh
>
> Hi. I'm trying to reach
> http://prevlcm2.corp.vnw.com/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx
> but it returns a DNS error.
>
> Regards
> Sergio.


In the meantime manually demunging the URL to:
http://www.livingcomputers.org/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx
appears to work.

Mike

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ContrAlto V1.1 Released

2016-10-27 Thread Josh Dersch
Hi all --

Just wanted to let you guys know that a new version of the Xerox Alto emulator 
I've been working on at the LCM+L has been released; V1.1 of ContrAlto can be 
downloaded from: http://www.livingcomputers.org/Join/Online-Systems.aspx.  At 
this point, the vast majority of software appears to be working properly, if 
you do run into any issues please let me know!

ContrAlto is open source, so if you want to hack on it the source is available 
on our GitHub site at https://github.com/livingcomputermuseum/ContrAlto.

Thanks!
- Josh





Re: ContrAlto V1.1 Released

2016-10-27 Thread Josh Dersch
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 2:25 PM, SPC  wrote:

> 2016-10-27 22:50 GMT+02:00 Josh Dersch :
>
> > ContrAlto can be downloaded from:
> > http://www.livingcomputers.org/Join/Online-Systems.aspx.
> >
> >  Thanks!
> >
> > - Josh
>
> Hi. I'm trying to reach
> http://prevlcm2.corp.vnw.com/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx
> but it returns a DNS error.
>
> Regards
> Sergio.
>

Thanks.  It looks like the download link for the emulator is pointing at an
internal address for some reason; I'll poke some people and get that
fixed...

- Josh


Re: ContrAlto V1.1 Released

2016-10-27 Thread SPC
2016-10-27 22:50 GMT+02:00 Josh Dersch :

> ContrAlto can be downloaded from:
> http://www.livingcomputers.org/Join/Online-Systems.aspx.
>
>  Thanks!
>
> - Josh

Hi. I'm trying to reach
http://prevlcm2.corp.vnw.com/Join/Online-Systems/ContraltoSetup.aspx
but it returns a DNS error.

Regards
Sergio.


ContrAlto V1.1 Released

2016-10-27 Thread Josh Dersch
(Apologies if this gets posted twice, e-mail changes appear to have lost
the first one...)


Hi all --

Just wanted to let you guys know that a new version of the Xerox Alto
emulator I've been working on at the LCM+L has been released. V1.1 of
ContrAlto can be downloaded from:
http://www.livingcomputers.org/Join/Online-Systems.aspx.  At this point,
the vast majority of software appears to be working properly, if you do run
into any issues please let me know!

ContrAlto is open source, so if you want to hack on it the source is
available on our GitHub site at
https://github.com/livingcomputermuseum/ContrAlto.

 Thanks!

- Josh