Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-19 Thread Bruce Ray via cctalk

Conner and Jay -


I will contact you off-list in the next few days regarding software 
license and docs...



Bruce Ray
Wild Hare Computer Systems, Inc.
Boulder, Colorado USA
b...@wildharecomputers.com

...preserving the Data General legacy: www.NovasAreForever.org

On 12/18/2018 8:16 AM, Connor Krukosky via cctalk wrote:
Well I ended up picking up this machine. Its a bit beaten in some 
places, cleaner than expected in others.
Overall it cleaned up pretty well and all power-supplies appear to work 
well!
Got it up to DG's "ODT" can't remember what they called it. Ram looks 
good at the beginning of the address space anyway.
This has a "JR. CPU" board in, a Cassette I/O board which I believe only 
has an extra UART on it, none of the cassette interface as its pretty 
sparse. And the 8" Disk controller board (6030 controller). Overall a 
pretty small machine. Looks like it used two serial ports, one at 9600 
baud for the primary console, then the other at 300 baud. Probably a 
teletype off to the side.

Seems to be a 1981 machine.
Unfortunately I got no docs or media with this machine. And it appears 
all that is up on bitsavers are tape images?

Anyone have any disk images for the 6030 drive of anything like RDOS?
Photos:
https://imgur.com/a/A0hZEVf


-Connor K

On 12/12/18 3:37 PM, Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk wrote:

And I assume the Fortran IV compiler could run on this system.

On 12/12/18, 9:11 PM, "cctalk on behalf of William Donzelli via 
cctalk" cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:


 While this is an absurdly small Data General Nova system for the era
 (at least it is not a microNova), you would run RDOS - not unlike a
 dual 8 inch floppy Z80 system of the day.
 --
 Will
 On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:27 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
  wrote:
 >
 > How does a person program this computer? I assume there's no C 
compiler.

 >
 > Would one have to boot to a DOS, then load a compiler into RAM, 
then read

 > program text into ram, them compile?
 >
 > I have less-than-zero experience with DG systems, but a 
higher-than-zero

 > adoration for their design/pedigree.
 >
 > =]
 > --
 > Anders Nelson
 >
 > +1 (517) 775-6129
 >
 > www.erogear.com
 >
 >
 > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:21 PM Jacob Ritorto via cctalk <
 > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
 >
 > > Shoot, was asking my wife if I could have it for Christmas to 
replace my

 > > regular desk in the family room :)
 > > But to keep the decor of our home a little more sane, I'll 
abstain from

 > > bidding and wish you best of luck instead!
 > >
 > > happy holidays and good luck!
 > > --jake
 > >
 > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:28 PM Connor Krukosky via cctalk <
 > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
 > >
 > > > Alright, I think I will go for it. I am not too far from it 
being in

 > > > Poughkeepsie.
 > > > Always loved the desk machines, and I personally have 
another kinda
 > > > parts Nova 4 that hopefully I can use to switch parts 
between to get one

 > > > really nice machine :)
 > > >
 > > > -Connor K
 > > >
 > > > On 2018-12-11 13:04, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
 > > > > I had one of those quite a few years ago. The desk comes 
apart fairly

 > > > > easily. The main unit is just a standard shorty 19" rack.
 > > > >
 > > > > --
 > > > > Will
 > > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:34 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
 > > > >  wrote:
 > > > >>
 > > > >> I'm about an hour drive away and somewhat interested, 
but I don't have

 > > > >> space for the desk unfortunately.
 > > > >>
 > > > >> --
 > > > >> Anders Nelson
 > > > >>
 > > > >> +1 (517) 775-6129
 > > > >>
 > > > >> www.erogear.com
 > > > >>
 > > > >>
 > > > >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:33 PM Tony Aiuto 


 > > > >> wrote:
 > > > >>
 > > > >> > It is close enough to me to rescue, but I really don't 
have the

 > > space
 > > > to
 > > > >> > store it.
 > > > >> > Will anyone take it if I hold it a while?
 > > > >> >
 > > > >> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:24 PM Anders Nelson via 
cctalk <

 > > > >> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
 > > > >> >
 > > > >> >> Would this system fit in a standard 19" wide 
equipment rack?

 > > > >> >>
 > > > >> >> =]
 > > > >> >> --
 > > > >> >> Anders Nelson
 > > > >> >>
 > > > >> >> +1 (517) 775-6129
 > > > >> >>
 > > > >> >> www.erogear.com
 > > > >> >>
 > > > >> >>
 > > > >> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
 > > > >> >> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
 > > > >> >>
 > > > >> >> > Cribbed from VCF:
 > > > >> >> >
 > > > >> >> >
 > > > >> >> >
 > > > >> >>
 > > >
 > > 

Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-19 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 12/18/2018 3:35 PM, Al Kossow via cctech wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/18/18 12:38 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> 
>>> Unfortunately I got no docs or media with this machine. And it appears
>>> all that is up on bitsavers are tape images?
> 
> Everything DG related on bitsavers has been on hold for a while until the
> licensing situation with EMC worked itself through.
> 
> 
> 

I have a fair amount of DG software floppies (and have imaged them), but
have also been advised (by another party) to hold off making them
available owing to licensing issues.  Shame, really.  Hopefully it will
all get worked out.

But, here is a quick list:

(DGDSDD is double-sided dual density, DGFHS is DG hard sectored, MT is
mag tape (9 track))

KINDID  MACHINE CONTENTSCOMMENT ChecksumChecksum 2  
FILENAMEMFG
SERIAL  TRAYDATEAVAILABILI  ERRORS  PREVIOUS_C

MT  CC0028  NOVA"RDOS ""STARTER"""  12/30/88 NOVA 3/4, 1 Extra
file @ end  rdos_starter_881230.aws Memorex 35CWA1  Rack 
East Wall
8/7/2000?   

MT  CC0029  NOVA"RDOS66 ""STARTER TAPE"""   12/31/88 NOVA 4/X, Last
file BADrdos_66_starter_881230.aws  Memorex 27JHA9  
Rack East Wall
8/7/2000Y   

MT  CC0030  NOVARDOS 6.6 NOVA 4/x FDUMP Reel 1 of 2 12/31/88
rdos_66_fdump_1_of_2_881231.aws Memorex 35JWA9  Rack East Wall  8/7/2000


MT  CC0031  NOVARDOS 6.6 NOVA 4/x FDUMP Reel 2 of 2 12/31/88
rdos_66_fdump_2_of_2_881231.aws Wabash  87623#1511  Rack East Wall  
8/7/2000



KINDID  MACHINE CONTENTSCOMMENT ChecksumChecksum 2  
FILENAMEMFG
SERIAL  TRAYDATEAVAILABILI  ERRORS  PREVIOUS_C

DGDSDD  DGF1229 Nova 4  NOVA 4/X BASICGEN.  DUMP FORMAT 12/30/88
DGF1229.DMK DG  F64 12/30/1988  All 
Tracks 16 x 512 2464 Sectors

DGDSDD  DGF1230 Nova 4  NOVA 4/X $LIB $SPL $OLIB $WP DUMP FORMAT
12/28/88DGF1230.DMK DG  F64 
12/28/1988  All Tracks 16 x 512 2464 Sectors

DGFHS   1001NOVANOVA DOS Starter DK W/O Mag Tape072-02-02
(Copy)  dg1001.img  DG  F50 


DGFHS   1002NOVANOVA DOS Starter DK Rev. 3.00   072-02-04   
dg1002.img  DG  F50 

DGFHS   1003NOVANOVA DOS Starter DK Rev. 3.00   072-02-04 (Copy)

dg1003.img  DG  F50 4/20/1979   

DGFHS   1004NOVANOVA DOS SYSGEN Diskette: W/O Mag Tape
072-03-01   dg1004.img  DG  F50 


DGFHS   1005NOVANOVA DOS SYSGEN Diskette: W/O Mag Tape  072-03-02
(Copy)  dg1005.img  DG  F50 


DGFHS   1006NOVANOVA DOS UTILITY Diskette W/O Mag Tape
072-04-01   dg1006.img  DG  F50 


DGFHS   1007NOVANOVA DOS UTILITY Diskette W/O Mag Tape  072-04-02
(Copy)  dg1007.img  DG  F50 


DGFHS   1008NOVANOVA DOS UTILITIES DK Rev. 3.00 072-04-04   
dg1008.img  DG  F50 

DGFHS   1009NOVANOVA DOS UTILITIES DK   072-04-?? (Copy, Revision
not shown)  dg1009.img  DG  F50 
4/20/1979   

DGFHS   1010NOVARTOS Mag Tape Support   072-06-01 (RTOS DOS Support
not Mag?dg1010.img  DG  F50 


DGFHS   1011NOVANOVA DOS Starter Diskette With Mag Tape
072-09-00   dg1011.img  DG  F50 


DGFHS   1012NOVACMSP (Communications Mux Software Pkg?)
072-18-00   dg1012.img  DG  F50 


DGFHS   1013NOVAMicroNOVA Starter DK Rev. 3.00  072-35-03   
dg1013.img  DG  F50 

DGFHS   1014NOVADOS Update 2 for Rev 3.00   072-000241-01   
dg1014.img  DG  F50 

DGFHS   1015NOVANOVA RTOS   072-40-00   
dg1015.img  DG  F51 

DGFHS   1016NOVANOVA RTOS on Diskette   "072-40-02 (Rev 6)
""3100"""   dg1016.img  DG  F51 


DGFHS   1017NOVARTOS Rev. 6.20  072-40-03   
dg1017.img  DG  F51 

DGFHS   1018NOVARTOS Update 1 ON 

Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 4:14 PM, Jay Jaeger via cctech wrote:
> On 12/18/2018 3:35 PM, Al Kossow via cctech wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 12/18/18 12:38 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
>>
 Unfortunately I got no docs or media with this machine. And it appears
 all that is up on bitsavers are tape images?
>>
>> Everything DG related on bitsavers has been on hold for a while until the
>> licensing situation with EMC worked itself through.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> I have a fair amount of DG software floppies (and have imaged them), but
> have also been advised (by another party) to hold off making them
> available owing to licensing issues.  Shame, really.  Hopefully it will
> all get worked out.
> 

Tell that to the PDP-11 and Pr1me enthusiasts.

bill



Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-18 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



On 12/18/18 12:38 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:

>> Unfortunately I got no docs or media with this machine. And it appears
>> all that is up on bitsavers are tape images?

Everything DG related on bitsavers has been on hold for a while until the
licensing situation with EMC worked itself through.




Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-18 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Looks like it used two serial ports, one at 9600
> baud for the primary console, then the other at 300 baud. Probably a
> teletype off to the side.

It is far more likely to have had a Dasher terminal, in this era.

> Unfortunately I got no docs or media with this machine. And it appears
> all that is up on bitsavers are tape images?

Contact Wild Hare for all things DG.

--
Will


Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-18 Thread Connor Krukosky via cctalk
Well I ended up picking up this machine. Its a bit beaten in some 
places, cleaner than expected in others.
Overall it cleaned up pretty well and all power-supplies appear to work 
well!
Got it up to DG's "ODT" can't remember what they called it. Ram looks 
good at the beginning of the address space anyway.
This has a "JR. CPU" board in, a Cassette I/O board which I believe only 
has an extra UART on it, none of the cassette interface as its pretty 
sparse. And the 8" Disk controller board (6030 controller). Overall a 
pretty small machine. Looks like it used two serial ports, one at 9600 
baud for the primary console, then the other at 300 baud. Probably a 
teletype off to the side.

Seems to be a 1981 machine.
Unfortunately I got no docs or media with this machine. And it appears 
all that is up on bitsavers are tape images?

Anyone have any disk images for the 6030 drive of anything like RDOS?
Photos:
https://imgur.com/a/A0hZEVf


-Connor K

On 12/12/18 3:37 PM, Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk wrote:

And I assume the Fortran IV compiler could run on this system.

On 12/12/18, 9:11 PM, "cctalk on behalf of William Donzelli via cctalk" 
 wrote:

 While this is an absurdly small Data General Nova system for the era
 (at least it is not a microNova), you would run RDOS - not unlike a
 dual 8 inch floppy Z80 system of the day.
 
 --

 Will
 On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:27 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
  wrote:
 >
 > How does a person program this computer? I assume there's no C compiler.
 >
 > Would one have to boot to a DOS, then load a compiler into RAM, then read
 > program text into ram, them compile?
 >
 > I have less-than-zero experience with DG systems, but a higher-than-zero
 > adoration for their design/pedigree.
 >
 > =]
 > --
 > Anders Nelson
 >
 > +1 (517) 775-6129
 >
 > www.erogear.com
 >
 >
 > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:21 PM Jacob Ritorto via cctalk <
 > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
 >
 > > Shoot, was asking my wife if I could have it for Christmas to replace 
my
 > > regular desk in the family room :)
 > > But to keep the decor of our home a little more sane, I'll abstain from
 > > bidding and wish you best of luck instead!
 > >
 > > happy holidays and good luck!
 > > --jake
 > >
 > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:28 PM Connor Krukosky via cctalk <
 > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
 > >
 > > > Alright, I think I will go for it. I am not too far from it being in
 > > > Poughkeepsie.
 > > > Always loved the desk machines, and I personally have another kinda
 > > > parts Nova 4 that hopefully I can use to switch parts between to get 
one
 > > > really nice machine :)
 > > >
 > > > -Connor K
 > > >
 > > > On 2018-12-11 13:04, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
 > > > > I had one of those quite a few years ago. The desk comes apart 
fairly
 > > > > easily. The main unit is just a standard shorty 19" rack.
 > > > >
 > > > > --
 > > > > Will
 > > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:34 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
 > > > >  wrote:
 > > > >>
 > > > >> I'm about an hour drive away and somewhat interested, but I don't 
have
 > > > >> space for the desk unfortunately.
 > > > >>
 > > > >> --
 > > > >> Anders Nelson
 > > > >>
 > > > >> +1 (517) 775-6129
 > > > >>
 > > > >> www.erogear.com
 > > > >>
 > > > >>
 > > > >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:33 PM Tony Aiuto 
 > > > >> wrote:
 > > > >>
 > > > >> > It is close enough to me to rescue, but I really don't have the
 > > space
 > > > to
 > > > >> > store it.
 > > > >> > Will anyone take it if I hold it a while?
 > > > >> >
 > > > >> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:24 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk <
 > > > >> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
 > > > >> >
 > > > >> >> Would this system fit in a standard 19" wide equipment rack?
 > > > >> >>
 > > > >> >> =]
 > > > >> >> --
 > > > >> >> Anders Nelson
 > > > >> >>
 > > > >> >> +1 (517) 775-6129
 > > > >> >>
 > > > >> >> www.erogear.com
 > > > >> >>
 > > > >> >>
 > > > >> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
 > > > >> >> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
 > > > >> >>
 > > > >> >> > Cribbed from VCF:
 > > > >> >> >
 > > > >> >> >
 > > > >> >> >
 > > > >> >>
 > > >
 > > 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Data-General-NOVA4-Nova-4-nova-desktop-computer-minicomputer-8-floppy-vintage/332940164292?hash=item4d84c7bcc4:g:2skAAOSwqIhcDrmI:rk:39:razz:f:0
 > > > >> >> >
 > > > >> >> > Chuck
 > > > >> >> >
 > > > >> >>
 > > > >> >
 > > >
 > >
 





Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-12 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
And I assume the Fortran IV compiler could run on this system.

On 12/12/18, 9:11 PM, "cctalk on behalf of William Donzelli via cctalk" 
 wrote:

While this is an absurdly small Data General Nova system for the era
(at least it is not a microNova), you would run RDOS - not unlike a
dual 8 inch floppy Z80 system of the day.

--
Will
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:27 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> How does a person program this computer? I assume there's no C compiler.
>
> Would one have to boot to a DOS, then load a compiler into RAM, then read
> program text into ram, them compile?
>
> I have less-than-zero experience with DG systems, but a higher-than-zero
> adoration for their design/pedigree.
>
> =]
> --
> Anders Nelson
>
> +1 (517) 775-6129
>
> www.erogear.com
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:21 PM Jacob Ritorto via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > Shoot, was asking my wife if I could have it for Christmas to replace my
> > regular desk in the family room :)
> > But to keep the decor of our home a little more sane, I'll abstain from
> > bidding and wish you best of luck instead!
> >
> > happy holidays and good luck!
> > --jake
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:28 PM Connor Krukosky via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Alright, I think I will go for it. I am not too far from it being in
> > > Poughkeepsie.
> > > Always loved the desk machines, and I personally have another kinda
> > > parts Nova 4 that hopefully I can use to switch parts between to get 
one
> > > really nice machine :)
> > >
> > > -Connor K
> > >
> > > On 2018-12-11 13:04, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> > > > I had one of those quite a few years ago. The desk comes apart 
fairly
> > > > easily. The main unit is just a standard shorty 19" rack.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Will
> > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:34 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm about an hour drive away and somewhat interested, but I don't 
have
> > > >> space for the desk unfortunately.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Anders Nelson
> > > >>
> > > >> +1 (517) 775-6129
> > > >>
> > > >> www.erogear.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:33 PM Tony Aiuto 
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > It is close enough to me to rescue, but I really don't have the
> > space
> > > to
> > > >> > store it.
> > > >> > Will anyone take it if I hold it a while?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:24 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk <
> > > >> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Would this system fit in a standard 19" wide equipment rack?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> =]
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >> Anders Nelson
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> +1 (517) 775-6129
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> www.erogear.com
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> > > >> >> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > Cribbed from VCF:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > >
> > 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Data-General-NOVA4-Nova-4-nova-desktop-computer-minicomputer-8-floppy-vintage/332940164292?hash=item4d84c7bcc4:g:2skAAOSwqIhcDrmI:rk:39:razz:f:0
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Chuck
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > >
> >





Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-12 Thread Tony Aiuto via cctalk
Conner: Since you are rescuing it, I will not bid. LMK if you change your
mind so I can grab it before it goes to scrap.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 3:25 PM William Donzelli via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> While this is an absurdly small Data General Nova system for the era
> (at least it is not a microNova), you would run RDOS - not unlike a
> dual 8 inch floppy Z80 system of the day.
>
> --
> Will
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:27 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
>  wrote:
> >
> > How does a person program this computer? I assume there's no C compiler.
> >
> > Would one have to boot to a DOS, then load a compiler into RAM, then read
> > program text into ram, them compile?
> >
> > I have less-than-zero experience with DG systems, but a higher-than-zero
> > adoration for their design/pedigree.
> >
> > =]
> > --
> > Anders Nelson
> >
> > +1 (517) 775-6129
> >
> > www.erogear.com
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:21 PM Jacob Ritorto via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Shoot, was asking my wife if I could have it for Christmas to replace
> my
> > > regular desk in the family room :)
> > > But to keep the decor of our home a little more sane, I'll abstain from
> > > bidding and wish you best of luck instead!
> > >
> > > happy holidays and good luck!
> > > --jake
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:28 PM Connor Krukosky via cctalk <
> > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Alright, I think I will go for it. I am not too far from it being in
> > > > Poughkeepsie.
> > > > Always loved the desk machines, and I personally have another kinda
> > > > parts Nova 4 that hopefully I can use to switch parts between to get
> one
> > > > really nice machine :)
> > > >
> > > > -Connor K
> > > >
> > > > On 2018-12-11 13:04, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> > > > > I had one of those quite a few years ago. The desk comes apart
> fairly
> > > > > easily. The main unit is just a standard shorty 19" rack.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Will
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:34 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm about an hour drive away and somewhat interested, but I don't
> have
> > > > >> space for the desk unfortunately.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Anders Nelson
> > > > >>
> > > > >> +1 (517) 775-6129
> > > > >>
> > > > >> www.erogear.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:33 PM Tony Aiuto 
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > It is close enough to me to rescue, but I really don't have the
> > > space
> > > > to
> > > > >> > store it.
> > > > >> > Will anyone take it if I hold it a while?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:24 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk <
> > > > >> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> Would this system fit in a standard 19" wide equipment rack?
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> =]
> > > > >> >> --
> > > > >> >> Anders Nelson
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> +1 (517) 775-6129
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> www.erogear.com
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> > > > >> >> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > Cribbed from VCF:
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >>
> > > >
> > >
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Data-General-NOVA4-Nova-4-nova-desktop-computer-minicomputer-8-floppy-vintage/332940164292?hash=item4d84c7bcc4:g:2skAAOSwqIhcDrmI:rk:39:razz:f:0
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > Chuck
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >
> > > >
> > >
>


Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-12 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
While this is an absurdly small Data General Nova system for the era
(at least it is not a microNova), you would run RDOS - not unlike a
dual 8 inch floppy Z80 system of the day.

--
Will
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:27 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> How does a person program this computer? I assume there's no C compiler.
>
> Would one have to boot to a DOS, then load a compiler into RAM, then read
> program text into ram, them compile?
>
> I have less-than-zero experience with DG systems, but a higher-than-zero
> adoration for their design/pedigree.
>
> =]
> --
> Anders Nelson
>
> +1 (517) 775-6129
>
> www.erogear.com
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:21 PM Jacob Ritorto via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > Shoot, was asking my wife if I could have it for Christmas to replace my
> > regular desk in the family room :)
> > But to keep the decor of our home a little more sane, I'll abstain from
> > bidding and wish you best of luck instead!
> >
> > happy holidays and good luck!
> > --jake
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:28 PM Connor Krukosky via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Alright, I think I will go for it. I am not too far from it being in
> > > Poughkeepsie.
> > > Always loved the desk machines, and I personally have another kinda
> > > parts Nova 4 that hopefully I can use to switch parts between to get one
> > > really nice machine :)
> > >
> > > -Connor K
> > >
> > > On 2018-12-11 13:04, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> > > > I had one of those quite a few years ago. The desk comes apart fairly
> > > > easily. The main unit is just a standard shorty 19" rack.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Will
> > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:34 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm about an hour drive away and somewhat interested, but I don't have
> > > >> space for the desk unfortunately.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Anders Nelson
> > > >>
> > > >> +1 (517) 775-6129
> > > >>
> > > >> www.erogear.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:33 PM Tony Aiuto 
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > It is close enough to me to rescue, but I really don't have the
> > space
> > > to
> > > >> > store it.
> > > >> > Will anyone take it if I hold it a while?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:24 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk <
> > > >> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Would this system fit in a standard 19" wide equipment rack?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> =]
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >> Anders Nelson
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> +1 (517) 775-6129
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> www.erogear.com
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> > > >> >> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > Cribbed from VCF:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > >
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Data-General-NOVA4-Nova-4-nova-desktop-computer-minicomputer-8-floppy-vintage/332940164292?hash=item4d84c7bcc4:g:2skAAOSwqIhcDrmI:rk:39:razz:f:0
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Chuck
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > >
> >


Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-12 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
How does a person program this computer? I assume there's no C compiler.

Would one have to boot to a DOS, then load a compiler into RAM, then read
program text into ram, them compile?

I have less-than-zero experience with DG systems, but a higher-than-zero
adoration for their design/pedigree.

=]
--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com


On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 2:21 PM Jacob Ritorto via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Shoot, was asking my wife if I could have it for Christmas to replace my
> regular desk in the family room :)
> But to keep the decor of our home a little more sane, I'll abstain from
> bidding and wish you best of luck instead!
>
> happy holidays and good luck!
> --jake
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:28 PM Connor Krukosky via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > Alright, I think I will go for it. I am not too far from it being in
> > Poughkeepsie.
> > Always loved the desk machines, and I personally have another kinda
> > parts Nova 4 that hopefully I can use to switch parts between to get one
> > really nice machine :)
> >
> > -Connor K
> >
> > On 2018-12-11 13:04, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> > > I had one of those quite a few years ago. The desk comes apart fairly
> > > easily. The main unit is just a standard shorty 19" rack.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Will
> > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:34 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
> > >  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I'm about an hour drive away and somewhat interested, but I don't have
> > >> space for the desk unfortunately.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Anders Nelson
> > >>
> > >> +1 (517) 775-6129
> > >>
> > >> www.erogear.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:33 PM Tony Aiuto 
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > It is close enough to me to rescue, but I really don't have the
> space
> > to
> > >> > store it.
> > >> > Will anyone take it if I hold it a while?
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:24 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk <
> > >> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Would this system fit in a standard 19" wide equipment rack?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> =]
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Anders Nelson
> > >> >>
> > >> >> +1 (517) 775-6129
> > >> >>
> > >> >> www.erogear.com
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> > >> >> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Cribbed from VCF:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> >
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Data-General-NOVA4-Nova-4-nova-desktop-computer-minicomputer-8-floppy-vintage/332940164292?hash=item4d84c7bcc4:g:2skAAOSwqIhcDrmI:rk:39:razz:f:0
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Chuck
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> >
>


Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-12 Thread Jacob Ritorto via cctalk
Shoot, was asking my wife if I could have it for Christmas to replace my
regular desk in the family room :)
But to keep the decor of our home a little more sane, I'll abstain from
bidding and wish you best of luck instead!

happy holidays and good luck!
--jake

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:28 PM Connor Krukosky via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Alright, I think I will go for it. I am not too far from it being in
> Poughkeepsie.
> Always loved the desk machines, and I personally have another kinda
> parts Nova 4 that hopefully I can use to switch parts between to get one
> really nice machine :)
>
> -Connor K
>
> On 2018-12-11 13:04, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> > I had one of those quite a few years ago. The desk comes apart fairly
> > easily. The main unit is just a standard shorty 19" rack.
> >
> > --
> > Will
> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:34 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm about an hour drive away and somewhat interested, but I don't have
> >> space for the desk unfortunately.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Anders Nelson
> >>
> >> +1 (517) 775-6129
> >>
> >> www.erogear.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:33 PM Tony Aiuto 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > It is close enough to me to rescue, but I really don't have the space
> to
> >> > store it.
> >> > Will anyone take it if I hold it a while?
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:24 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk <
> >> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Would this system fit in a standard 19" wide equipment rack?
> >> >>
> >> >> =]
> >> >> --
> >> >> Anders Nelson
> >> >>
> >> >> +1 (517) 775-6129
> >> >>
> >> >> www.erogear.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> >> >> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Cribbed from VCF:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Data-General-NOVA4-Nova-4-nova-desktop-computer-minicomputer-8-floppy-vintage/332940164292?hash=item4d84c7bcc4:g:2skAAOSwqIhcDrmI:rk:39:razz:f:0
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chuck
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
>


Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-12 Thread Connor Krukosky via cctalk
Alright, I think I will go for it. I am not too far from it being in 
Poughkeepsie.
Always loved the desk machines, and I personally have another kinda 
parts Nova 4 that hopefully I can use to switch parts between to get one 
really nice machine :)


-Connor K

On 2018-12-11 13:04, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:

I had one of those quite a few years ago. The desk comes apart fairly
easily. The main unit is just a standard shorty 19" rack.

--
Will
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:34 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
 wrote:


I'm about an hour drive away and somewhat interested, but I don't have
space for the desk unfortunately.

--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com


On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:33 PM Tony Aiuto  
wrote:


> It is close enough to me to rescue, but I really don't have the space to
> store it.
> Will anyone take it if I hold it a while?
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:24 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> Would this system fit in a standard 19" wide equipment rack?
>>
>> =]
>> --
>> Anders Nelson
>>
>> +1 (517) 775-6129
>>
>> www.erogear.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
>> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Cribbed from VCF:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Data-General-NOVA4-Nova-4-nova-desktop-computer-minicomputer-8-floppy-vintage/332940164292?hash=item4d84c7bcc4:g:2skAAOSwqIhcDrmI:rk:39:razz:f:0
>> >
>> > Chuck
>> >
>>
>


Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-11 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
I had one of those quite a few years ago. The desk comes apart fairly
easily. The main unit is just a standard shorty 19" rack.

--
Will
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 10:34 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> I'm about an hour drive away and somewhat interested, but I don't have
> space for the desk unfortunately.
>
> --
> Anders Nelson
>
> +1 (517) 775-6129
>
> www.erogear.com
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:33 PM Tony Aiuto  wrote:
>
> > It is close enough to me to rescue, but I really don't have the space to
> > store it.
> > Will anyone take it if I hold it a while?
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:24 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk <
> > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Would this system fit in a standard 19" wide equipment rack?
> >>
> >> =]
> >> --
> >> Anders Nelson
> >>
> >> +1 (517) 775-6129
> >>
> >> www.erogear.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> >> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Cribbed from VCF:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Data-General-NOVA4-Nova-4-nova-desktop-computer-minicomputer-8-floppy-vintage/332940164292?hash=item4d84c7bcc4:g:2skAAOSwqIhcDrmI:rk:39:razz:f:0
> >> >
> >> > Chuck
> >> >
> >>
> >


Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-10 Thread Sam O'nella via cctalk
That's pretty awesome in a desk unit. Always wanted to get a trs or altair desk 
unit. Hadn't realized there were many more. 

Unfortunately distance and wife would be prohibitive for my collection. :-(


Sent from my Apple /c

> On Dec 10, 2018, at 6:10 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Cribbed from VCF:
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Data-General-NOVA4-Nova-4-nova-desktop-computer-minicomputer-8-floppy-vintage/332940164292?hash=item4d84c7bcc4:g:2skAAOSwqIhcDrmI:rk:39:razz:f:0
> 
> Chuck


Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-10 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
I'm about an hour drive away and somewhat interested, but I don't have
space for the desk unfortunately.

--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com


On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:33 PM Tony Aiuto  wrote:

> It is close enough to me to rescue, but I really don't have the space to
> store it.
> Will anyone take it if I hold it a while?
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:24 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> Would this system fit in a standard 19" wide equipment rack?
>>
>> =]
>> --
>> Anders Nelson
>>
>> +1 (517) 775-6129
>>
>> www.erogear.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
>> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Cribbed from VCF:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Data-General-NOVA4-Nova-4-nova-desktop-computer-minicomputer-8-floppy-vintage/332940164292?hash=item4d84c7bcc4:g:2skAAOSwqIhcDrmI:rk:39:razz:f:0
>> >
>> > Chuck
>> >
>>
>


Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-10 Thread Tony Aiuto via cctalk
It is close enough to me to rescue, but I really don't have the space to
store it.
Will anyone take it if I hold it a while?

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 9:24 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Would this system fit in a standard 19" wide equipment rack?
>
> =]
> --
> Anders Nelson
>
> +1 (517) 775-6129
>
> www.erogear.com
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > Cribbed from VCF:
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Data-General-NOVA4-Nova-4-nova-desktop-computer-minicomputer-8-floppy-vintage/332940164292?hash=item4d84c7bcc4:g:2skAAOSwqIhcDrmI:rk:39:razz:f:0
> >
> > Chuck
> >
>


Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-10 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Would this system fit in a standard 19" wide equipment rack?

=]
--
Anders Nelson

+1 (517) 775-6129

www.erogear.com


On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 6:10 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Cribbed from VCF:
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Data-General-NOVA4-Nova-4-nova-desktop-computer-minicomputer-8-floppy-vintage/332940164292?hash=item4d84c7bcc4:g:2skAAOSwqIhcDrmI:rk:39:razz:f:0
>
> Chuck
>


DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-10 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Cribbed from VCF:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Data-General-NOVA4-Nova-4-nova-desktop-computer-minicomputer-8-floppy-vintage/332940164292?hash=item4d84c7bcc4:g:2skAAOSwqIhcDrmI:rk:39:razz:f:0

Chuck