Re: First new vax in ...30 years? :-)

2021-07-05 Thread ben via cctalk

On 2021-07-05 7:37 p.m., Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:




On Jul 5, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk  
wrote:

On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 2:46 AM David Brownlee via cctalk
 wrote:

In case anyone was interested in an FPGA VAX implementation
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-vax/2021/07/03/msg003899.html


I think this is fantastic, but getting the CPU running is only the
start.  I'll be curious what/how storage emulation goes, and
networking.  Bonus points for sync serial that can run a DDCMP line to
vintage machines.

-ethan


I found myself wondering what it would take to put this, RAM, network, and a SD 
Card “Disk” on a Q-Bus board. :-)

Zane



Two SD card disks. I many not have used a VAX but I still remember using 
a single floppy drive to copy files.Why not a real solid state drive? 
Real I/O devices with DMA are needed and real media storage for all the 
virtual memory swapping that may go on.



Ben.



Re: First new vax in ...30 years? :-)

2021-07-05 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 9:37 PM Zane Healy  wrote:
> > On Jul 5, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk  
> > wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 2:46 AM David Brownlee via cctalk
> >  wrote:
> >> In case anyone was interested in an FPGA VAX implementation
> >> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-vax/2021/07/03/msg003899.html
> >
> > I think this is fantastic, but getting the CPU running is only the
> > start.  I'll be curious what/how storage emulation goes, and
> > networking.  Bonus points for sync serial that can run a DDCMP line to
> > vintage machines.
>
> I found myself wondering what it would take to put this, RAM, network, and a 
> SD Card “Disk” on a Q-Bus board. :-)

Adding a Qbus to it would certainly offload the work of implementing
storage - just put it on the user to find a Qbus SCSI card or a KDA-50
or a Qbone or whatever and you wouldn't have to worry about OS drivers
or (alternately) mimicking a vintage disk controller.

I would hope it would use its own RAM.  No point in forcing anyone to
use vintage RAM.

For convenience, it would be nicer to have some sort non-spinning disk
rather than a $$$ vintage controller.

-ethan


Re: First new vax in ...30 years? :-)

2021-07-05 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk



> On Jul 5, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 2:46 AM David Brownlee via cctalk
>  wrote:
>> In case anyone was interested in an FPGA VAX implementation
>> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-vax/2021/07/03/msg003899.html
> 
> I think this is fantastic, but getting the CPU running is only the
> start.  I'll be curious what/how storage emulation goes, and
> networking.  Bonus points for sync serial that can run a DDCMP line to
> vintage machines.
> 
> -ethan

I found myself wondering what it would take to put this, RAM, network, and a SD 
Card “Disk” on a Q-Bus board. :-)

Zane





Re: First new vax in ...30 years? :-)

2021-07-05 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 2:46 AM David Brownlee via cctalk
 wrote:
> In case anyone was interested in an FPGA VAX implementation
> http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-vax/2021/07/03/msg003899.html

I think this is fantastic, but getting the CPU running is only the
start.  I'll be curious what/how storage emulation goes, and
networking.  Bonus points for sync serial that can run a DDCMP line to
vintage machines.

-ethan


Re: First new vax in ...30 years? :-)

2021-07-05 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk

On 05/07/2021 21:48, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:

On 7/4/21 1:52 PM, David Brownlee via cctalk wrote:

In case anyone was interested in an FPGA VAX implementation
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-vax/2021/07/03/msg003899.html

And/or thoughts on 64bit/FP & multiprocessor enhancements :-p
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-vax/2021/07/03/msg003903.html


WOW,very impressive!

Indeed. If only someone could get him a copy of DEC's AXE suite so he 
can test it properly. Anyone have that available?


Antonio

--
Antonio Carlini
anto...@acarlini.com



Re: First new vax in ...30 years? :-)

2021-07-05 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk

On 7/4/21 1:52 PM, David Brownlee via cctalk wrote:

In case anyone was interested in an FPGA VAX implementation
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-vax/2021/07/03/msg003899.html

And/or thoughts on 64bit/FP & multiprocessor enhancements :-p
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-vax/2021/07/03/msg003903.html


WOW,very impressive!



First new vax in ...30 years? :-)

2021-07-05 Thread David Brownlee via cctalk
In case anyone was interested in an FPGA VAX implementation
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-vax/2021/07/03/msg003899.html

And/or thoughts on 64bit/FP & multiprocessor enhancements :-p
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-vax/2021/07/03/msg003903.html

David