R: SGI Fuel P/S ::WAS:::::::Re: For you SGI fans...

[Mazzini Alessandro]

Yes, that can be done, but there are some issues... aka the psu must have some 
basic values for the lines, and finding one suitable can be a problem. Plus if 
I remember right you need to have the connector (in my case I don't have it), 
to swap it and tweak the cables (with the hope of not doing an error in the 
meanwhile).
The other issue (that at least applies to my case) is not being 100% sure that 
there were no damages to the boards caused by the busted psu

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A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: SGI Fuel P/S ::WAS:::Re: For you SGI fans...

The Fuel PS can be swapped for its PC counter part.  Wonder over to 
Nekochan.net and search for Fuel Power supply, there is a lot of info on this.  
The p1 connector has to be resorted and the replacement PS has to have the fan 
monitoring and  that signal has to be adjusted to what L1 expects.  The 
motherboard has several environment monitoring ICs that, on the early 
revisions, go bad and keeps the computer from starting.  These ICs are/were 
available for the brave hearted to attempt the repair.  The later motherboards 
apparently don't suffer from the enviro monitoring failures as often.  Nekochan 
is a great resource, it was invaluable for me when I was building my Fuel.

Tom

On Friday, January 15, 2016, Jerry Kemp <ot...@oryx.us> wrote:

> Thanks for the comments.
>
> All this SGI discussion has me wanting to go out and hunt down a Fuel 
> even more.
>
> It sounds like I need to focus on finding one with a rev-4 or better 
> power supply.
>
> Its been some time since I have personally done any soldering.
>
> There's got to be some place, for a fee, that knows about and can 
> repair SGI power supplies.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> On 01/15/16 03:26 PM, Mazzini Alessandro wrote:
>
>> Sadly yes, there's a known issue with psu in fuels. I have one that 
>> went kaboom after 20 minutes and lies waiting for a psu since months 
>> (and will lie that way, I guess. I'm looking at it in a sad way near 
>> daily...).
>>
>> Long story short, Fuel psu were made by 3 different brands, and each 
>> of them had ... longevity issues... in what we could say being 
>> revision 1 to 3.
>>
>>> From 4 upward (and if I'm mistaken , at worst was from 3 upward) 
>>> they tend
>>>
>> to be resistant.
>>
>> Exploding issues aside, those psu are not standard and have a chip 
>> doing some mumbo jumbo inside (all lines are monitored, by example). 
>> That chip can .. erase itself... ( in the upper mentioned revisions, 
>> for sure ). There are no known dumps of the chip firmware.
>>
>>

Re: For you SGI fans...

[ethan]

Hello Jay,
Regarding the simulated SCSI disk, hoping you can explain further.
The last time I had an IRIX based workstation on my desk was in 2007, and all 
this SGI discussion has me wanting to go and hunt down a Fuel.

Curious how the simulated disk thing works.
Thank you,
Jerry


My coworker has a Fuel sitting on his desk here, I'm staring at it. There 
is some sort of failure with mobo or power supply. He has a spare 
motherboard for it, but I think he said it's PSU. Prob caps, is there a 
known issue with them?


Also, I used nfs to get to ISO data of IRIX 6.5.2x updates for my Octane 
and it worked fine. Flashbacks to my days as a sysad @ NASA in IRIX land, 
and as a huge SGI fanboy...


https://users.757.org/~ethan/pics/office/13/Image02.jpg
96proc, 64GB, 7TB, 2.something million dollars

https://users.757.org/~ethan/pics/office/13/Image15.jpg
o2k, my favorite...

https://users.757.org/~ethan/pics/office/13/Image20.jpg
Petabytes in the background, in 2001 or so.




 --
Ethan O'Toole

R: For you SGI fans...

[Mazzini Alessandro]

Sadly yes, there's a known issue with psu in fuels. I have one that went
kaboom after 20 minutes and lies waiting for a psu since months (and will
lie that way, I guess. I'm looking at it in a sad way near daily...).

Long story short, Fuel psu were made by 3 different brands, and each of them
had ... longevity issues... in what we could say being revision 1 to 3.
>From 4 upward (and if I'm mistaken , at worst was from 3 upward) they tend
to be resistant.

Exploding issues aside, those psu are not standard and have a chip doing
some mumbo jumbo inside (all lines are monitored, by example). That chip can
.. erase itself... ( in the upper mentioned revisions, for sure ). There are
no known dumps of the chip firmware.

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Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di et...@757.org
Inviato: venerdì 15 gennaio 2016 19:11
A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Cc: gene...@classiccmp.org; discuss...@classiccmp.org
Oggetto: Re: For you SGI fans...

> Hello Jay,
> Regarding the simulated SCSI disk, hoping you can explain further.
> The last time I had an IRIX based workstation on my desk was in 2007, 
> and all this SGI discussion has me wanting to go and hunt down a Fuel.
> Curious how the simulated disk thing works.
> Thank you,
> Jerry

My coworker has a Fuel sitting on his desk here, I'm staring at it. There is
some sort of failure with mobo or power supply. He has a spare motherboard
for it, but I think he said it's PSU. Prob caps, is there a known issue with
them?

Also, I used nfs to get to ISO data of IRIX 6.5.2x updates for my Octane and
it worked fine. Flashbacks to my days as a sysad @ NASA in IRIX land, and as
a huge SGI fanboy...

https://users.757.org/~ethan/pics/office/13/Image02.jpg
96proc, 64GB, 7TB, 2.something million dollars

https://users.757.org/~ethan/pics/office/13/Image15.jpg
o2k, my favorite...

https://users.757.org/~ethan/pics/office/13/Image20.jpg
Petabytes in the background, in 2001 or so.




  --
Ethan O'Toole

Re: SGI Fuel P/S ::WAS:::::::Re: For you SGI fans...

[Ian S. King]

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Jerry Kemp  wrote:

> Thanks for the comments.
>
> All this SGI discussion has me wanting to go out and hunt down a Fuel even
> more.
>
> It sounds like I need to focus on finding one with a rev-4 or better power
> supply.
>
> Its been some time since I have personally done any soldering.
>
> There's got to be some place, for a fee, that knows about and can repair
> SGI power supplies.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
That's it - I gotta fire up my Octane this weekend.  And dig into that
treasure trove of ISOs

-- 
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School 
Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
Narrative Through a Design Lens

Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal 
Value Sensitive Design Research Lab 

University of Washington

There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."

SGI Fuel P/S ::WAS:::::::Re: For you SGI fans...

[Jerry Kemp]

Thanks for the comments.

All this SGI discussion has me wanting to go out and hunt down a Fuel even more.

It sounds like I need to focus on finding one with a rev-4 or better power 
supply.

Its been some time since I have personally done any soldering.

There's got to be some place, for a fee, that knows about and can repair SGI 
power supplies.


Jerry


On 01/15/16 03:26 PM, Mazzini Alessandro wrote:

Sadly yes, there's a known issue with psu in fuels. I have one that went
kaboom after 20 minutes and lies waiting for a psu since months (and will
lie that way, I guess. I'm looking at it in a sad way near daily...).

Long story short, Fuel psu were made by 3 different brands, and each of them
had ... longevity issues... in what we could say being revision 1 to 3.

From 4 upward (and if I'm mistaken , at worst was from 3 upward) they tend

to be resistant.

Exploding issues aside, those psu are not standard and have a chip doing
some mumbo jumbo inside (all lines are monitored, by example). That chip can
.. erase itself... ( in the upper mentioned revisions, for sure ). There are
no known dumps of the chip firmware.

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Jerry Kemp]

Hello Jay,

Regarding the simulated SCSI disk, hoping you can explain further.

The last time I had an IRIX based workstation on my desk was in 2007, and all 
this SGI discussion has me wanting to go and hunt down a Fuel.


Curious how the simulated disk thing works.

Thank you,

Jerry


On 01/13/16 10:46 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote:

Thanks for the pointer.  I have an INDY with no software (well, at least
no convenient software - I have IRIX 5.22 as 3 tar.gz files.

I guess I will need to drag it out and if it still runs, get it a
simulated SCSI disk (I don't have any disks in mine).

JRJ

On 1/12/2016 2:10 PM, geneb wrote:



https://archive.org/details/cdromsoftware?=-publicdate[]=SGI

g.

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Jonathan Katz]

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 9:16 AM, Ian Finder  wrote:
> Yeah, the versions > 6.5.22 can be nice for a variety of reasons if you've
> got the later hardware. [I think the last one even had an
> almost-totally-working default DHCP config out-of-box. ;) ]
>
> I run it on systems where I can.

The only thing I really want for Christmas is a modern JDK/JRE running on Irix.

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Ian Finder]

Yeah, the versions > 6.5.22 can be nice for a variety of reasons if you've
got the later hardware. [I think the last one even had an
almost-totally-working default DHCP config out-of-box. ;) ]

I run it on systems where I can.

6.5.22 is nice because it doesn't have dependencies on some of the harder
to find later developer CDs, and it is the last version I expect a lot of
the SGI hardware changing hands these days, but it is sufficient for the
late SGIs too.
(later versions drop Indy, Indigo2, Onyx, etc.)

*anyway- If you plan on ever installing more than a couple SGIs...*
Doing a* full and up-to-date *install from scratch using the CDs is a *pain*
.

Solution- netboot.

The CDs [there are a zillion point release layer things] are in EFS format
and can't be mounted on OS X or Windows. At some point I mounted them all
on Linux and wrote a script that copied the /dist folders to a folder
structure on an NFS share I use to do a net install.

It has various mid-release CD versions for things like the Developer
Libraries and NFS discs, and can do a pretty full install of both 6.5.30
and 6.5.22 for older (I2, Indy, etc.) systems.

There's also some demos / application CDs, and some of the more recent
SGI-built [freeware- mozilla, etc] freeware CDs.

*These are all components of IRIX itself as supplied with systems over the
years*, but the layered CD-based software distribution model employed by
SGI is maddening.

I don't have the original images- I never plan to touch an IRIX CD again.

What's SGI-rackable's take? pretty sure support for these ended LONG ago-
last release is 10 years old and they will not sell you IRIX, nor current
or extended support.

I could look into tarring this up and getting it on Archive.org.

- Ian

-- 
   Ian Finder
   (206) 395-MIPS
   ian.fin...@gmail.com

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Steven Hirsch]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2016, Ian Finder wrote:


Solution- netboot.

The CDs [there are a zillion point release layer things] are in EFS 
format and can't be mounted on OS X or Windows. At some point I mounted 
them all on Linux and wrote a script that copied the /dist folders to a 
folder structure on an NFS share I use to do a net install.


The net-based install was rather fussy about the shell on the installation 
server.  To work around it, I wrote a Linux pre-load shim that caught all 
invocations and directed them to the compatible shell binary.


If this is of interest to anyone, I can probably unearth the code from a 
backup tape (my SGIs - and the installation server - have been gone for 
years).



--

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Ben Sinclair]

Amazing, thank you! I just finished putting together my dream system
from 1997 or so, an O2 with a 1600SW. I'm running the latest IRIX on
there, but have been looking of the development overlays.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 2:10 PM, geneb  wrote:
>
>
> https://archive.org/details/cdromsoftware?=-publicdate[]=SGI
>
> g.
>
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
> Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!



-- 
Ben Sinclair
b...@bensinclair.com

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Jay Jaeger]

Thanks for the pointer.  I have an INDY with no software (well, at least
no convenient software - I have IRIX 5.22 as 3 tar.gz files.

I guess I will need to drag it out and if it still runs, get it a
simulated SCSI disk (I don't have any disks in mine).

JRJ

On 1/12/2016 2:10 PM, geneb wrote:
> 
> 
> https://archive.org/details/cdromsoftware?=-publicdate[]=SGI
> 
> g.
> 
> 

Re: For you SGI fans...

[ethan]

is this allowed? i thought it was under a restrictive licence and was not
allowed to be shared freely like this?
I am not complaining at all, im making about 500 copies of everything on
that page ,ive been stuck outta luck with a sgi crimson without the irix
6.2 install disk needed to make it work. but still ,are you legally allowed
to make copies like this?


It's just media, and it's a way dead platform.

Another issue is that some of it requires this license file thing that has 
these codes that are needed for things like the C and C++ compilers, which 
generally won't compile stuff written for GCC without modifications.


So if you find SGI machines always try to reset the root password and look 
for the license.dat file to check if it has anything special. The file 
contents look like this:


http://pastebin.com/sw4fUyxP

Re: For you SGI fans...

[ethan]

I need to put the two-proc module in my Octane and fire it up.  Anyone know
of the top of his/her head if I have to reinstall IRIX, or does it pick up
on the multiproc config at boot and Do The Right Thing?  Or do I just need
to RTFM?


I can't remember any issue going from single CPU to 32.

I might have 6.5.26 or 27 or something? I had to download some recent 
version of the overlays to get 8 channel recording support via lightpipe 
on one of the IRIX tools. Sadly the excellent IRIX man pages are wrong 
about the utility, it was definitely at the end of IRIX.


The Solaris CD page is gonna be HUGE with all the versions of that thing 
;-)



--
Ethan O'Toole

Re: For you SGI fans...

[ethan]

Man, I've not fired up my I2 R1 and Indy R5000 for a good decade.  Twas
such a great desktop compared to others of the day, even well after.  I
actually still miss many of the aspects of simplicity.  And the graphics


Just a heads up, SGI Indigo2 power supplies will fail, and it's a few caps 
that are documented online (4 if I recall) that just need to be swapped.



--
Ethan O'Toole

Re: For you SGI fans...

[devin davison]

is this allowed? i thought it was under a restrictive licence and was not
allowed to be shared freely like this?
I am not complaining at all, im making about 500 copies of everything on
that page ,ive been stuck outta luck with a sgi crimson without the irix
6.2 install disk needed to make it work. but still ,are you legally allowed
to make copies like this?



On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Jason Scott  wrote:

> All versions from all types welcome
> On Jan 12, 2016 3:50 PM, "geneb"  wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 12 Jan 2016, Ian Finder wrote:
> >
> > This is a great start, but I wouldn't install this version.
> >> Try to install the 6.5.22 overlay or greater. It does indeed require
> some
> >> disks from this media set, but is more compatible with newer open source
> >> software built for the platform.
> >>
> >> Installing 6.5.0 seems like a waste of time...
> >>
> >> So instead of sneering about it, why not upload ISOs of that version?
> >
> > g.
> >
> > --
> > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> > http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
> > Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.
> >
> > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> > http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
> >
>

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Ian S. King]

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:10 PM, geneb  wrote:

>
>
> https://archive.org/details/cdromsoftware?=-publicdate[]=SGI
>

O. M. G.  Thanks!

-- 
Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
The Information School 
Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
Narrative Through a Design Lens

Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal 
Value Sensitive Design Research Lab 

University of Washington

There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."

Re: For you SGI fans...

[devin davison]

Dear god.
Thank you.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Ian Finder  wrote:

> This is a great start, but I wouldn't install this version.
> Try to install the 6.5.22 overlay or greater. It does indeed require some
> disks from this media set, but is more compatible with newer open source
> software built for the platform.
>
> Installing 6.5.0 seems like a waste of time...
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Ian S. King  wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:10 PM, geneb  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > https://archive.org/details/cdromsoftware?=-publicdate[]=SGI
> > >
> >
> > O. M. G.  Thanks!
> >
> > --
> > Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
> > The Information School 
> > Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a
> Sociotechnical
> > Narrative Through a Design Lens
> >
> > Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal 
> > Value Sensitive Design Research Lab 
> >
> > University of Washington
> >
> > There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."
> >
>
>
>
> --
>Ian Finder
>(206) 395-MIPS
>ian.fin...@gmail.com
>

Re: For you SGI fans...

[geneb]

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016, Ian S. King wrote:


On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:10 PM, geneb  wrote:




https://archive.org/details/cdromsoftware?=-publicdate[]=SGI



O. M. G.  Thanks!


You're welcome, but I'm just the guy pointing it out. :)

g.

--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

For you SGI fans...

[geneb]

https://archive.org/details/cdromsoftware?=-publicdate[]=SGI

g.


--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Ian Finder]

This is a great start, but I wouldn't install this version.
Try to install the 6.5.22 overlay or greater. It does indeed require some
disks from this media set, but is more compatible with newer open source
software built for the platform.

Installing 6.5.0 seems like a waste of time...

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Ian S. King  wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:10 PM, geneb  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/cdromsoftware?=-publicdate[]=SGI
> >
>
> O. M. G.  Thanks!
>
> --
> Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate
> The Information School 
> Dissertation: "Why the Conversation Mattered: Constructing a Sociotechnical
> Narrative Through a Design Lens
>
> Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal 
> Value Sensitive Design Research Lab 
>
> University of Washington
>
> There is an old Vulcan saying: "Only Nixon could go to China."
>



-- 
   Ian Finder
   (206) 395-MIPS
   ian.fin...@gmail.com

Re: For you SGI fans...

[geneb]

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016, Ian Finder wrote:


This is a great start, but I wouldn't install this version.
Try to install the 6.5.22 overlay or greater. It does indeed require some
disks from this media set, but is more compatible with newer open source
software built for the platform.

Installing 6.5.0 seems like a waste of time...


So instead of sneering about it, why not upload ISOs of that version?

g.

--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Jason Scott]

All versions from all types welcome
On Jan 12, 2016 3:50 PM, "geneb"  wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Jan 2016, Ian Finder wrote:
>
> This is a great start, but I wouldn't install this version.
>> Try to install the 6.5.22 overlay or greater. It does indeed require some
>> disks from this media set, but is more compatible with newer open source
>> software built for the platform.
>>
>> Installing 6.5.0 seems like a waste of time...
>>
>> So instead of sneering about it, why not upload ISOs of that version?
>
> g.
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
> Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
>

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Ian Finder]

> So instead of sneering about it, why not upload ISOs of that version?

I wasn't sneering at it. My goal was to advise people not to waste time
performing a 4 hour install process that takes 6 CDs that each need to be
read in twice only to find out they can't run anything. IRIX is one of the
worst OSes to go thru such a process for.

There's no need to be such an asshole about it, Gene.
I was already planning on looking for the .22 CDs to upload when I get home
from work, but it's times like this I wonder why I try to lift a finger to
do anything for this community.

Cheers,

- Ian

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 12:50 PM, geneb  wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Jan 2016, Ian Finder wrote:
>
> This is a great start, but I wouldn't install this version.
>> Try to install the 6.5.22 overlay or greater. It does indeed require some
>> disks from this media set, but is more compatible with newer open source
>> software built for the platform.
>>
>> Installing 6.5.0 seems like a waste of time...
>>
>> So instead of sneering about it, why not upload ISOs of that version?
>
>
> g.
>
> --
> Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
> http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
> http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
> Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.
>
> ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
> A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
> http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
>



-- 
   Ian Finder
   (206) 395-MIPS
   ian.fin...@gmail.com

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Jacob Ritorto]

Man, I've not fired up my I2 R1 and Indy R5000 for a good decade.  Twas
such a great desktop compared to others of the day, even well after.  I
actually still miss many of the aspects of simplicity.  And the graphics
effects were spectacular.  I should see if I can dig them up and get them
going.  I remember that there were freeware companion CDs out for them, but
obviously you'd want to build new now.  Do any of the open source projects
still bother with IRIX, even if it's at latest 6.5.22?

thx
jake

Re: For you SGI fans...

[geneb]

On Tue, 12 Jan 2016, Ian Finder wrote:


So instead of sneering about it, why not upload ISOs of that version?


I wasn't sneering at it. My goal was to advise people not to waste time
performing a 4 hour install process that takes 6 CDs that each need to be
read in twice only to find out they can't run anything. IRIX is one of the
worst OSes to go thru such a process for.

Because the way you worded it appeared to invalidate what was done without 
offering anything more than "a waste of time".  Had you written, "It's a 
waste of time because ", then I probably wouldn't have 
been a dick about it.


g.

--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home.
Some people collect things for a hobby.  Geeks collect hobbies.

ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment
A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes.
http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Ian S. King]

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 3:19 PM, Jacob Ritorto 
wrote:

> Man, I've not fired up my I2 R1 and Indy R5000 for a good decade.  Twas
> such a great desktop compared to others of the day, even well after.  I
> actually still miss many of the aspects of simplicity.  And the graphics
> effects were spectacular.  I should see if I can dig them up and get them
> going.  I remember that there were freeware companion CDs out for them, but
> obviously you'd want to build new now.  Do any of the open source projects
> still bother with IRIX, even if it's at latest 6.5.22?
>
> thx
> jake
>

I need to put the two-proc module in my Octane and fire it up.  Anyone know
of the top of his/her head if I have to reinstall IRIX, or does it pick up
on the multiproc config at boot and Do The Right Thing?  Or do I just need
to RTFM?

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Re: For you SGI fans...

[Jules Richardson]

On 01/12/2016 05:19 PM, Jacob Ritorto wrote:

Man, I've not fired up my I2 R1 and Indy R5000 for a good decade.


My I2's just sort of sitting there are the moment because I could really 
use something* to give it a purpose (it's a Max Impact system with 2 x 4GB 
disks and 384MB of memory, so it was a pretty good spec for the day). 
Originated with Cray, but (unsurprisingly) they did everything via remote 
NFS mounts, so there's not really anything interesting on the disks.


* demos, applications, whatever... something that makes good use of the 
graphic abilities, anyway. When I last looked it seemed that there wasn't 
much out there which wasn't still considered commercial software, and so 
unobtainable without the original media.


cheers

Jules

Re: For you SGI fans...

[Ian Finder]

Alright- I'm not gonna get into this- people on listservs will always get
what they want to out of a message- usually the worst.

I am gonna look for my 6.2 CDs for the guy who has a Crimson, but I fear
they're 2000 miles away in Chicago-- sitting on top of my Crimson. :(
I'll look around for older versions like 4 and 3 as well... I know they're
somewhere in my RAID

I /DID/ find 6.5.22 and imaged it.

I've *temporarily *placed the 6.5.22 overlay media on my server- someone
should upload it to archive.org. I will do it at some point later, when I'm
not on a cell phone... If I remember.
http://quaalud.es/requests-ccmp/irix-6522/

Note: *This release is an overlay and still requires the 6.5.0 foundation
set on Archive.org*- thus my comment that it was a good start!
No invalidation of what others have done- in fact it is necessary to build
on! (Thank you, Jason!)

You need this version to run any of the excellent freeware packages in
nekoware:
http://nekochan.net/what-is-nekowar.html

Cheers,

- Ian


On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 2:54 PM, geneb  wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Jan 2016, Ian Finder wrote:
>
> So instead of sneering about it, why not upload ISOs of that version?
>>>
>>
>> I wasn't sneering at it. My goal was to advise people not to waste time
>> performing a 4 hour install process that takes 6 CDs that each need to be
>> read in twice only to find out they can't run anything. IRIX is one of the
>> worst OSes to go thru such a process for.
>>
>> Because the way you worded it appeared to invalidate what was done
> without offering anything more than "a waste of time".  Had you written,
> "It's a waste of time because ", then I probably wouldn't
> have been a dick about it.
>
>
> g.
>
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