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> From: Ali > There is a guy with a listing with missing parts which he is > advertising as working. It has been listed for over two years now ... > I offered to buy a part off of it for ~half of what he wanted > for everything and he replied that "the value was in keeping it

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> Eventually they may wise up. I had a guy selling a group of 4 DEC > So I suggest waiting for a couple more months and write him a 'I see > it's > been X months, my offer of Y is still open' note. > > Noel That all depends: There is a guy with a listing with missing parts which

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> From: Alan Perry > They went unsold again and I waited for the next auction run. I offered > the split-the-difference price again and they countered even higher. I > got the message and have stopped bidding. That was a couple months ago > and they still have sold any of

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On 5/2/18 9:55 AM, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: On May 2, 2018, at 9:50 AM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: On May 2, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk wrote: [snip] Chuck makes a good point about the Make-Offer feature, and it

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herson via cctalk Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2018 01:06 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Is This A Shill? On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Hagstrom, Paul via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On May 1, 2018,

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On 05/02/2018 04:37 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 05/02/2018 01:01 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> And that is a matter of opinion. > I've been subscribed to eBay since 1998, when the best I could do for a > net connection was a somewhat iffy 9600 bps. At that speed and high

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I have never had a program to snipe for me, but I like the idea of others sniping since it saves me money not being tempted to outbid somebody else before the auction ends. I bid low and if I win good, otherwise I wait for the item to come around again. People can get emotional and do bidding

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On 05/02/2018 01:01 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > And that is a matter of opinion. I've been subscribed to eBay since 1998, when the best I could do for a net connection was a somewhat iffy 9600 bps. At that speed and high latency, there was no way to engage in a last-minute bidding

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On 05/02/2018 11:22 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > Sniping simply reduced the amount of time that a competing bidder has to > submit a bid when he discovers that he's being outbid. There's nothing > unethical about it-- And that is a matter of opinion. bill

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On 05/02/2018 05:10 AM, Gordon Henderson via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, 1 May 2018, Hagstrom, Paul via cctalk wrote: > >>> On May 1, 2018, at 6:06 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk >>> wrote: >>> >>> Personally, I find all of this hilarious.  ebay has been shady for >>> as

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On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > To put it bluntly, I list high and expect reasonable > offers, which rarely happen. You never know what a box of magic Steve Jobs floppies is worth until you list them for $666.

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> On May 2, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > > >> On 5/2/18 9:20 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: >> change the format from fixed ending time to automatically extending the >> auction period N minutes past the last bid. > Ain't gonna happen. >

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> On May 2, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk > wrote: > >> On May 2, 2018, at 09:08, Chuck Guzis via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Although eBay in the past has tried to kill off sniping because it >> reduces the number of visits an

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> On May 2, 2018, at 9:50 AM, Alan Perry via cctalk > wrote: > > > >> On May 2, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk >> wrote: >> [snip] >> Chuck makes a good point about the Make-Offer feature, and it should be >> noted that

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> On May 2, 2018, at 8:58 AM, Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk > wrote: > > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >>> On 05/02/2018 08:06 AM, Eric Christopherson via cctalk wrote: >>> >>> When you say you snipe with a

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Another nice  feature of the offers is  you can let them  come in and choose the highest and best  use  for where the item goes...   In a message dated 5/2/2018 8:51:52 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:   On 5/2/18 8:22 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > One thing

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On 5/2/18 9:20 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > change the format from fixed ending time to automatically extending the > auction period N minutes past the last bid. Ain't gonna happen. Other sites tried it, and failed because auctions would literally drag on for hours with penny bids.

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On Tue, 1 May 2018, Hagstrom, Paul via cctalk wrote: On May 1, 2018, at 6:06 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Personally, I find all of this hilarious. ebay has been shady for as long as I have watched it. I gave up seriously bidding on "auctions" years ago.

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On May 2, 2018, at 09:08, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > Although eBay in the past has tried to kill off sniping because it > reduces the number of visits an individual might pay to their site, I > think they've given up with trying to kill the sniping system. If eBay

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On 05/02/2018 08:42 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > Yes. It drives more traffic to the site. It's really gamification of the > process, which sucks for the bidders (they bid more than they should). In > the ideal world, you set a price you're willing to pay, pay a trusted third > party to

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On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 05/02/2018 08:06 AM, Eric Christopherson via cctalk wrote: > > > When you say you snipe with a bot, do you mean you use eBay's highest-bid > > functionality to do it? Or do you use third-party software? >

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On 5/2/18 8:22 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > One thing that many eBay subscribers overlook is the "Make offer" > feature of some auctions. In my opinion, that's where the real gold can > be. Yup, in both directions. People seem completely clueless about what a reasonable offer is, on

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On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On May 2, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > On 05/02/2018 08:06 AM, Eric Christopherson via cctalk wrote: > > > >> When you say you snipe with a bot, do

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> On May 2, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 05/02/2018 08:06 AM, Eric Christopherson via cctalk wrote: > >> When you say you snipe with a bot, do you mean you use eBay's highest-bid >> functionality to do it? Or do you use third-party software?

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On 05/02/2018 08:06 AM, Eric Christopherson via cctalk wrote: > When you say you snipe with a bot, do you mean you use eBay's highest-bid > functionality to do it? Or do you use third-party software? > > I've never been clear on how the built-in highest-bid functionality works. > I often see

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On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Hagstrom, Paul via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On May 1, 2018, at 6:06 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > Personally, I find all of this hilarious. ebay has been shady for as > long > > > > as I have watched

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On 2018-05-01 7:20 PM, Hagstrom, Paul via cctalk wrote: On May 1, 2018, at 6:06 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Personally, I find all of this hilarious. ebay has been shady for as long as I have watched it. I gave up seriously bidding on "auctions" years

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> On May 1, 2018, at 6:06 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > Personally, I find all of this hilarious. ebay has been shady for as long > > as I have watched it. I gave up seriously bidding on "auctions" years ago. > > Seems every time I bid and ended out the

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Personally, I find all of this hilarious.  ebay has been shady for as long as I have watched it.  I gave up seriously bidding on "auctions" years ago. Seems every time I bid and ended out the top bidder it would stay that way till the auction ended and then suddenly someone beat me by a

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y 2018 18:11 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Is This A Shill? > > Check the bidding history. > > 1) Is the cancelled high bid absurdly high? > Is it from a low/no feedback? (eBay no longer lets you know other bid

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One simple technique: ShillA bids a ridiculously high bid. That advances the auction to one increment past your highest. That ridiculously high bid is withdrawn. ShillB, now knowing your high bid, bids one increment or less below your high bid. You "win" at your high bid. ShillA and

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chance bids have to go through ebay, not directly to the seller. I've had shill bids on a $9 item. The reason I know is because the bid went to $6 over my bid and then a third bid I didn't get to see ( it seems ebay removes withdrawn bids ). Two weeks later the seller put the same item up for sale

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Check the bidding history. 1) Is the cancelled high bid absurdly high? Is it from a low/no feedback? (eBay no longer lets you know other bidders identities) It is not uncommon for a shill to place a single VERY high bid, in order to reveal the full amount of the highest bid. Another use

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there is one special ahole out there based in Italy but sells with listing listed in Europe and Alaska. Has a number of handles (scroogemcduckbonaparte, dagobertduckbonaparte, paperonebonaparte, amongst others). He is a pure scamming thief and does shill bid.

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> From: Rob Jarratt > I got this: > ... > For security, please keep all communication through the eBay message > system. Well, that bit sounds positive. And the feedback sounds good, but 56 items is a bit low - I've heard of scams where people do a number of small items to

Is This A Shill?

I bid on something, 1 hour later I got this: Due to eBay reporting the highest bidder as a spammer this item is now available at your last bid price of x. If you would like to purchase it please arrange payment and collection. If you're not interested I would appreciate a quick message as