Re: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-02-01 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk


Australian HP museum site... yes kudos to them!  What wonderful work they have 
done and some of the friendliest  peple around!

Even though I pull a copy down from there. If it is,for something we have in 
the collection  I also try to get original manuals too..
On Sunday, January 31, 2021 Tony Duell  wrote:
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 6:25 AM Frank McConnell via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> On Jan 30, 2021, at 10:09, ED SHARPE via cctalk  wrote:
> > Hi Doug! No, we do not have a copy of this HP JOURNAL.  We do not have 
> > manuals  either.  We,are lucky to have the unit wonder if you can still 
> > order ink for the printer. I do have an unopened ink cartrige.

You can get scans of the manuals from the Australian HP museum site

Do you have any expansion boards in it? Extra memory is very useful
(and you can turn any of the boards into a 1MByte one by adding the
chips and changing links). As is an RS232 interface (something that
IMHO should have been built-in)

Do NOT leave the ink cartridge in the machine. The ink is somewhat
corrosive and if it leaks onto the flexiprint that connects the
cartridge to the logic PCB it will damage it. Due to the layout of the
machine the flexiprint is longer than the one in a normal Thinkjet so
you can't just raid one of those for spares. Yes there is a way to
kludge it with ribbon cable and connectors but it's best not to have
the problem in the first place.

>
> HP 51604A.  I was surprised a few months ago to find that Staples claims to 
> be able to sell new HP cartridges.  Looking earlier today, HP can too!
>
> Seriously, we’re talking about ink cartridges including replacement print 
> heads for printers manufactured in 1983.

I was equally surprised to find that ink ribbons for the Epson HX20
laptop (M160 printer mechanism) along with the ones for the narrower
M150 mechanism are still being made.

But as I've said before, I'd rather find parts for a machine made 30
years ago than one made 5 years ago.

-tony


RE: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-01-31 Thread Smith, Wayne via cctalk
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 9:01 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk  
wrote:

> Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral? computers were sold.?? 
> 
> We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it 
> for.?? 
> 
> Of course we are looking for any advertising material, posters or anyting 
> visually related to this computer to make the display "more than just a 
> computer on the table"? 
> 
> Please let us know if you have any material that would fit this need!?? 
> 
> Thank you very much in advance
> Ed Sharpe - Archivist?? for SMECC

There is one up on Ebay where you can read the serial number - which is 
2505A01815 (the first 4 digits are the build week/year indicator [maybe 25th 
week of 1985]; "A" is place of mfg [US]; 01815 is the number).


Re: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-01-31 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk


Wayne.. yes please send the 2  serial numbers and others are invited to 
participate also. 

Probably good idea to send offlist  to kerp from clogging lister.  Thanks Ed#
On Sunday, January 31, 2021 Smith, Wayne via cctalk 
 wrote:
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 9:01 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk  
wrote:

> Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral? computers were sold.?? 
> 
> We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it 
> for.?? 
> 
> Of course we are looking for any advertising material, posters or anyting 
> visually related to this computer to make the display "more than just a 
> computer on the table"? 
> 
> Please let us know if you have any material that would fit this need!?? 
> 
> Thank you very much in advance
> Ed Sharpe - Archivist?? for SMECC

As to the number sold, you should be able to get a sense of it by collecting 
serial numbers from those who have them - once you get enough of them (maybe 20 
or so) you should get a sense of about where the numbering started and where it 
ended.  I have two units and if you're interested I can pull the numbers and 
send them along.


Re: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-01-31 Thread Smith, Wayne via cctalk
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 9:01 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk  
wrote:

> Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral? computers were sold.?? 
> 
> We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it 
> for.?? 
> 
> Of course we are looking for any advertising material, posters or anyting 
> visually related to this computer to make the display "more than just a 
> computer on the table"? 
> 
> Please let us know if you have any material that would fit this need!?? 
> 
> Thank you very much in advance
> Ed Sharpe - Archivist?? for SMECC

As to the number sold, you should be able to get a sense of it by collecting 
serial numbers from those who have them - once you get enough of them (maybe 20 
or so) you should get a sense of about where the numbering started and where it 
ended.  I have two units and if you're interested I can pull the numbers and 
send them along.


Re: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-01-31 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk


Thanks  folks for the part number for ink jet cartridges. .. we have differnt 
interface standards version of Thinkjet  plusevthe one in the integral so we 
can play still!

Big thanks for the corisive  ink warning. .. I had no idea!

Hopefully we can turn up some poster art and other things  to add  to the 
display too!  -Ed#
On Sunday, January 31, 2021 Tony Duell  wrote:
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 6:25 AM Frank McConnell via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> On Jan 30, 2021, at 10:09, ED SHARPE via cctalk  wrote:
> > Hi Doug! No, we do not have a copy of this HP JOURNAL.  We do not have 
> > manuals  either.  We,are lucky to have the unit wonder if you can still 
> > order ink for the printer. I do have an unopened ink cartrige.

You can get scans of the manuals from the Australian HP museum site

Do you have any expansion boards in it? Extra memory is very useful
(and you can turn any of the boards into a 1MByte one by adding the
chips and changing links). As is an RS232 interface (something that
IMHO should have been built-in)

Do NOT leave the ink cartridge in the machine. The ink is somewhat
corrosive and if it leaks onto the flexiprint that connects the
cartridge to the logic PCB it will damage it. Due to the layout of the
machine the flexiprint is longer than the one in a normal Thinkjet so
you can't just raid one of those for spares. Yes there is a way to
kludge it with ribbon cable and connectors but it's best not to have
the problem in the first place.

>
> HP 51604A.  I was surprised a few months ago to find that Staples claims to 
> be able to sell new HP cartridges.  Looking earlier today, HP can too!
>
> Seriously, we’re talking about ink cartridges including replacement print 
> heads for printers manufactured in 1983.

I was equally surprised to find that ink ribbons for the Epson HX20
laptop (M160 printer mechanism) along with the ones for the narrower
M150 mechanism are still being made.

But as I've said before, I'd rather find parts for a machine made 30
years ago than one made 5 years ago.

-tony


Re: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-01-31 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 6:25 AM Frank McConnell via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> On Jan 30, 2021, at 10:09, ED SHARPE via cctalk  wrote:
> > Hi Doug! No, we do not have a copy of this HP JOURNAL.  We do not have 
> > manuals  either.  We,are lucky to have the unit wonder if you can still 
> > order ink for the printer. I do have an unopened ink cartrige.

You can get scans of the manuals from the Australian HP museum site

Do you have any expansion boards in it? Extra memory is very useful
(and you can turn any of the boards into a 1MByte one by adding the
chips and changing links). As is an RS232 interface (something that
IMHO should have been built-in)

Do NOT leave the ink cartridge in the machine. The ink is somewhat
corrosive and if it leaks onto the flexiprint that connects the
cartridge to the logic PCB it will damage it. Due to the layout of the
machine the flexiprint is longer than the one in a normal Thinkjet so
you can't just raid one of those for spares. Yes there is a way to
kludge it with ribbon cable and connectors but it's best not to have
the problem in the first place.

>
> HP 51604A.  I was surprised a few months ago to find that Staples claims to 
> be able to sell new HP cartridges.  Looking earlier today, HP can too!
>
> Seriously, we’re talking about ink cartridges including replacement print 
> heads for printers manufactured in 1983.

I was equally surprised to find that ink ribbons for the Epson HX20
laptop (M160 printer mechanism) along with the ones for the narrower
M150 mechanism are still being made.

But as I've said before, I'd rather find parts for a machine made 30
years ago than one made 5 years ago.

-tony


Re: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-01-30 Thread Frank McConnell via cctalk
On Jan 30, 2021, at 10:09, ED SHARPE via cctalk  wrote:
> Hi Doug! No, we do not have a copy of this HP JOURNAL.  We do not have 
> manuals  either.  We,are lucky to have the unit wonder if you can still order 
> ink for the printer. I do have an unopened ink cartrige.

HP 51604A.  I was surprised a few months ago to find that Staples claims to be 
able to sell new HP cartridges.  Looking earlier today, HP can too!

Seriously, we’re talking about ink cartridges including replacement print heads 
for printers manufactured in 1983.

-Frank McConnell




Re: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-01-30 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk


Hi Doug! No, we do not have a copy of this HP JOURNAL.  We do not have manuals  
either.  We,are lucky to have the unit wonder if you can still order ink for 
the printer. I do have an unopened ink cartrige.

I will have to get a copy of this journal meanwhile I will read this one you 
sent the link to! 

Back when we were selling  the HP PC  computers  this was a current product but 
outside our contract  with HP.  I was working with HP 150 abd the display 
potables HP offered and used 1000 2000 and 3000 systems  but always looked at 
how neat  this was.

Ed#
On Saturday, January 30, 2021 Doug Salot  wrote:
I assume you already have a copy of the Oct 1985 HP 
Journal?http://hparchive.com/Journals/HPJ-1985-10.pdf

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 9:01 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk  
wrote:


Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral  computers were sold.   

We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it 
for.   

Of course we are looking for any advertising material, posters or anyting 
visually related to this computer to make the display "more than just a 
computer on the table"  

Please let us know if you have any material that would fit this need!   

Thank you very much in advance 
Ed Sharpe - Archivist   for SMECC



Re: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-01-30 Thread Doug Salot via cctalk
I assume you already have a copy of the Oct 1985 HP Journal?
http://hparchive.com/Journals/HPJ-1985-10.pdf

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 9:01 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk 
wrote:

>
> Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral  computers were sold.
>
> We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around
> it for.
>
> Of course we are looking for any advertising material, posters or anyting
> visually related to this computer to make the display "more than just a
> computer on the table"
>
> Please let us know if you have any material that would fit this need!
>
> Thank you very much in advance
> Ed Sharpe - Archivist   for SMECC
>


Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

2021-01-30 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk


Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral  computers were sold.   

We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it 
for.   

Of course we are looking for any advertising material, posters or anyting 
visually related to this computer to make the display "more than just a 
computer on the table"  

Please let us know if you have any material that would fit this need!   

Thank you very much in advance 
Ed Sharpe - Archivist   for SMECC