Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-25 Thread Jerome H. Fine
>Paul Koning wrote: On Apr 24, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: Kyle Owen wrote: On a related note, a former DEC field engineer gave me this key (and keychain). He thought it was a PDP-8 key at first, but it's not the standard XX2247. It says

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-25 Thread Dennis Boone
> You were able to deduce that from the "GRB 2"? Is that authoritative? > If so, I'd like to add it to the 11/05-10 page on the Computer > History Wiki. Yes, I looked up "GRB 2" in the Chicago codebook. The Chicago designation for the blank is K5K. De

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-25 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Dennis Boone >> it says "Chicago Lock Co" and "GRB 2" > Aha. > Cut 215 on Ilco S1041T. You were able to deduce that from the "GRB 2"? Is that authoritative? If so, I'd like to add it to the 11/05-10 page on the Computer History Wiki. Also, I have an original XX2065

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-25 Thread Dennis Boone
> I have an original (which was used to make a ton of replicas for > people a while back); it says "Chicago Lock Co" and "GRB 2". No idea > what the latter means. The copies were made with Hillman Y11 and FR4 > blanks (both work, but one has to be trimmed a bit, length-wise). Aha. Cut 215 on

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-25 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Dennis Boone > Haven't managed to id the 11/05 key yet. I have an original (which was used to make a ton of replicas for people a while back); it says "Chicago Lock Co" and "GRB 2". No idea what the latter means. The copies were made with Hillman Y11 and FR4 blanks (both work,

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-25 Thread Paul Koning
> On Apr 24, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: > > >Kyle Owen wrote: > >> On a related note, a former DEC field engineer gave me this key (and >> keychain). He thought it was a PDP-8 key at first, but it's not the >> standard XX2247. It says KBM1100...any ideas

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-25 Thread Dennis Boone
> All the H967's I've seen had non-ace keys for the back doors. Most > (if not all, can't remember) of my H960's use non-ace keys for the > back doors. I believe the common back door key is a National C415A. Cut 12343 b-t on an Ilco 1069N blank. These are also used in electrical panels, so

RE: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-25 Thread tony duell
> Just for curiosity, which Key codes were used for the PDP-11 > systems? I used to have some PDP-11 racks for RL02 drives > with a Qbus PDP-11/23 inside and I thought I remembered that > XX2247 was used on them, but I would just like to know for sure. > Actually, the more I think about it, just

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-24 Thread Jerome H. Fine
>Kyle Owen wrote: On a related note, a former DEC field engineer gave me this key (and keychain). He thought it was a PDP-8 key at first, but it's not the standard XX2247. It says KBM1100...any ideas what this might go to? http://imgur.com/a/4v8Hq I have followed this thread, but have not

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-23 Thread Dennis Boone
> On a related note, a former DEC field engineer gave me this key (and > keychain). He thought it was a PDP-8 key at first, but it's not the > standard XX2247. It says KBM1100...any ideas what this might go to? VAXen were used in GE EDACS repeater controllers, so perhaps one of those systems?

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-23 Thread Dennis Boone
> What do you think of the Klom imitation of it? Initial impressions of the Klom K-747 tubular key cutter The Klom K-747 cutter is designed to cut Chicago ACE type tubular keys, and the Fort equivalents. It is available in at least four key barrel sizes, 7.0mm, 7.3mm, 7.5mm and 7.8mm. The

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-19 Thread Mike Stein
- Original Message - From: "Paul Koning" <paulkon...@comcast.net> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" <cct...@classiccmp.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 4:24 PM Subject: Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.) > On Apr 19, 2

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-19 Thread Dennis Boone
> It's a little costly for the amount of need that we have. What do > you think of the Klom imitation of it? I've got one of the Klom imitations coming. Report to follow... If it helps anyone, I can produce Chicago double-sided keys from code. This sort of thing:

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-19 Thread Fred Cisin
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, Mike Stein wrote: I finally found my micrometer; is there a cross-reference of pin # vs. depth or just a list of standard depths for ACE keys somewhere? Yes. Called a "depth and space reference" (different for manufacturer, and sometimes blank) 5 years ago, we had a

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-19 Thread geneb
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, Fred Cisin wrote: On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, Paul Koning wrote: Look here, http://www.hpcworld.com/mobile/km/pocketcutup/index.html, click "See the manual", it's at the bottom of the first page. Looks like a neat little machine. I don't have one (or any knowledge of these

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-19 Thread Fred Cisin
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, Paul Koning wrote: Look here, http://www.hpcworld.com/mobile/km/pocketcutup/index.html, click "See the manual", it's at the bottom of the first page. Looks like a neat little machine. I don't have one (or any knowledge of these devices), but if I needed keys like that I'd

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Apr 19, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Mike Stein wrote: > > I finally found my micrometer; is there a cross-reference of pin # vs. depth > or just a list of standard depths for ACE keys somewhere? Look here, http://www.hpcworld.com/mobile/km/pocketcutup/index.html, click "See

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-04-19 Thread Mike Stein
I finally found my micrometer; is there a cross-reference of pin # vs. depth or just a list of standard depths for ACE keys somewhere? m

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-02-25 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> On Feb 25, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Jay West wrote: > > But I did find there is apparently a service http://key.me where you take a > picture of your key with their app, and they mail you a copy (or if there is > a kiosk of theirs in your area, you can do it real time there).

RE: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-02-25 Thread Fred Cisin
Some municipalities have restrictions on it, ranging from no restrictions to outright ban, or requiring the locksmith to keep on file the identity of who requested a key, and/or "proof" of ownership of the lock (physically bringing it in, letter on company letterhead, etc.) On Thu, 25 Feb 2016,

RE: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-02-25 Thread Jay West
Fred wrote... - Some municipalities have restrictions on it, ranging from no restrictions to outright ban, or requiring the locksmith to keep on file the identity of who requested a key, and/or "proof" of ownership of the lock (physically bringing it in, letter on company letterhead, etc.)

Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

2016-02-25 Thread Jay West
I'll put the list of ACE keys (and codes, as we get them) on a website on the classiccmp server for posterity. Actually, this whole thing came up in my brain due to tracking down keys for a Pr1me machine (non-ace). But I did find there is apparently a service http://key.me where you take a