Re: Kids these days...
> The disclaimer at the bottom of the page is good for a laugh, and could be a > hint. > > http://www.gopherprotocol.com That is pretty boilerplate legal, actually. -- Will
Re: Kids these days...
On 2019-Jun-10, at 11:11 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > I wouldn’t invest in an IoT buzzword company whose web page admits that the > products they are talking about don’t exist yet, headed by a non-engineer, > even without the fishy international money laundering smell. It’s interesting > how quickly you ferreted that out, William. I don’t have a clue about > business stuff like that. > > Yesterday I saw a company car for a presumed IT service company called Telnet > something or other. I don’t think I would rely on Telnet for my information > security needs. The disclaimer at the bottom of the page is good for a laugh, and could be a hint. > http://www.gopherprotocol.com Summary: What we say here isn't what we are doing, it's what we might do in the future. And if we change our minds or can't do it, don't expect us to tell you. Summary of summary: Don't trust anything we say.
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William Donzelli via cctalk writes: > It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a > LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out > of the Ukraine. I was going to shy away from those thoughts, but ... * a "new" startup, since 2009? * actual patent *numbers* to back up the claims? It all looks pretty bogus.
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On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 07:56:29AM -0700, geneb via cctalk wrote: > Get a load of this: > http://www.gopherprotocol.com > > I pointed them to RFC 1436 in case they haven't been paying attention. The lousy page does not open in any of four browsers I tried (lynx, w3m, dillo, even firefox). Finally, cache from goog opened in FF. They claim to be revolutionary, then proceed to talk about personal tracking via bracelets and something about tracking animals. So, is this goobbledybook about home arrested criminals? I think I watched a movie with very beautiful Robin Tunney who had been chained wirelessly and waited for prosecution in some decrepit location. Since their description of themselves is not very clear, I guess they are going to dissapear. > I eagerly await their next protocols, IPX and TCP/IP! Please. No. Wait. Can they write an operating system, say, let's call it Windows for IoTs? -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
Re: Kids these days...
I wouldn’t invest in an IoT buzzword company whose web page admits that the products they are talking about don’t exist yet, headed by a non-engineer, even without the fishy international money laundering smell. It’s interesting how quickly you ferreted that out, William. I don’t have a clue about business stuff like that. Yesterday I saw a company car for a presumed IT service company called Telnet something or other. I don’t think I would rely on Telnet for my information security needs. -- Mark J. Blair http://www.nf6x.net
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On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 11:44 AM William Donzelli via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Well, you said you pointed out the RFC to them... > > Did the page not smell fishy to you? > > -- > Will > It looked/sounded like typical IoT marketing speak to me :) > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:14 PM geneb via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote: > > > > > It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a > > > LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out > > > of the Ukraine. > > > > > Interesting. I still don't see how I "fell" for something. > > > > g. > > > > -- > > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > > http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. > > Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. > > > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > > http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_! > -- Eric Christopherson
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Oh, it is a legit company - the SEC filings could not faked on the government website. I went down a quick rabbit hole, and I saw things about the HQ being in Kiev, 1000 to 1 stock splits, and so forth. No one would ever invest in that company unless they specifically wanted weird things to happen to their money in a sort-of-legal half-ass paper trail sort of way. -- Will On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:53 PM geneb wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote: > > > Well, you said you pointed out the RFC to them... > > > > Did the page not smell fishy to you? > > > No more so than normal. They've got at least one "live" trademark going: > http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc=4802:o29p87.2.1 > > The dead "gopherinsight" mark was owned by an individual that used the > same attorney as the live mark, so it's possible that it's a legit company > powered by randomized buzzword bingo cards... > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. > Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote: Well, you said you pointed out the RFC to them... Did the page not smell fishy to you? No more so than normal. They've got at least one "live" trademark going: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc=4802:o29p87.2.1 The dead "gopherinsight" mark was owned by an individual that used the same attorney as the live mark, so it's possible that it's a legit company powered by randomized buzzword bingo cards... g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
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Well, you said you pointed out the RFC to them... Did the page not smell fishy to you? -- Will On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:14 PM geneb via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote: > > > It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a > > LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out > > of the Ukraine. > > > Interesting. I still don't see how I "fell" for something. > > g. > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. > Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote: It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out of the Ukraine. Interesting. I still don't see how I "fell" for something. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
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It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out of the Ukraine. -- Will On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:01 PM geneb via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote: > > > Wow, you fell hard... > > > > Eh? (don't top post!) Adapt.
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote: Wow, you fell hard... Eh? (don't top post!) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
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Wow, you fell hard... -- Will On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:56 AM geneb via cctalk wrote: > > Get a load of this: > http://www.gopherprotocol.com > > I pointed them to RFC 1436 in case they haven't been paying attention. > > I eagerly await their next protocols, IPX and TCP/IP! > > g. > > > -- > Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 > http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. > http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. > Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. > > ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment > A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. > http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
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> On June 10, 2019 at 9:56 AM geneb via cctalk wrote: > > > Get a load of this: > http://www.gopherprotocol.com > For me, the funniest part is the image of a PCB full of 16 pin 74LS chips in DIP packages -- that should REALLY change how people use "mobile" technology Will
Kids these days...
Get a load of this: http://www.gopherprotocol.com I pointed them to RFC 1436 in case they haven't been paying attention. I eagerly await their next protocols, IPX and TCP/IP! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://scarlet.deltasoft.com - Get it _today_!
