Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

The p720s etc. have found a new home.

On Sat, May 12, 2018, 5:28 AM Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> This time not so 'classic'
>
> My last job was maintaining IBM p7's and eventually p8's.
>
> One thing I started was putting together a home setup. But like all the
> other
> projects the gear has become redundant to me.
>
> The 'stack' consists of 2 each IBM p720's, a CR6 HMC, and a KVM drawer.
>
> The p720 do NOT have any hard drives or carriers, but both are available
> via
> Ebay. The carrier was used in more than one model, and in the past I've
> bought carriers with small disks for < $20 each, then found larger disks of
> various brands.
>
> And the rails are missing from the p720's.
>
> Google "ibm p720"
>
> I can't remember how much RAM, number of CPUs etc but one p720 was
> 'loaded'.
>
> If interested let me know and
>
> If anyone knows a good AIX list please let me know
>
> I'll try to get a few photo's this weekend.
>
> The 'stack' is located in Portland, Oregon.
>
> NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.
>
>
> -pete
>
>
>
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I have used Pak Mail in the past where they have come out the stuff
vanishes and eventually gets delivered.

But unless I hear from somebody that they're willing to offer some money
for this stack I'm not going to go through the process for $100. By the way
I'm not asking much more than that local pickup.

Today or sometime this weekend they're going to go out on the back porch
with a tarp over them.

And when that pile gets too big my estate will determine what to do with
the stuff.





On Sat, May 19, 2018, 4:50 AM Robert via cctalk 
wrote:

> > Noel Chiappa wrote:
> >
> > https://www.pakmail.com/
>
> I'll second Noel's point about Pakmail. I used them to send a big
> AS/400 to Canada once. They charged $200 for the 250 mile round trip
> to collect it, plus crating & freight.
>
> In fact, if Mark doesn't go for it I may be tempted...
>
> Robert
>
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Robert via cctalk]

> Noel Chiappa wrote:
>
> https://www.pakmail.com/

I'll second Noel's point about Pakmail. I used them to send a big
AS/400 to Canada once. They charged $200 for the 250 mile round trip
to collect it, plus crating & freight.

In fact, if Mark doesn't go for it I may be tempted...

Robert

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Noel Chiappa via cctalk]

> From: Mark Linimon

> Would love to if you can change your mind on shipping?

https://www.pakmail.com/

Like I said, they will come pick things up, as they sit - perfect for Pete's
situation. And from my experience, not _always_ cheap, but _usually_ pretty
good (e.g. a large PDP-11 in a 19" rack from Toronto to Virginia was about
$500, which for international freight on something that big is pretty good.)

Noel

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Yeah another time another place I would but now one even has to load them
themselves I can't move anything anymore. I'll even toss two wheeled cart
they are on

On Sat, May 19, 2018, 12:00 AM Mark Linimon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 11:42:52PM -0700, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
> > Last call is there any interest ?
>
> Would love to if you can change your mind on shipping?
>
> Austin, TX, is kind of a far drive.
>
> mcl
>
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Mark Linimon via cctalk]

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 11:42:52PM -0700, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote:
> Last call is there any interest ?

Would love to if you can change your mind on shipping?

Austin, TX, is kind of a far drive.

mcl

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Last call is there any interest ?

On Fri, May 18, 2018, 8:14 AM Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> The serial numbers
>
> p720
>
> 8202-E4B 106AD5P
> 8202-E4B 106AD6P
>
> HMC
>
> 7042-CR4  10-72F0B
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2018, 5:28 AM Pete Lancashire 
> wrote:
>
>> This time not so 'classic'
>>
>> My last job was maintaining IBM p7's and eventually p8's.
>>
>> One thing I started was putting together a home setup. But like all the
>> other
>> projects the gear has become redundant to me.
>>
>> The 'stack' consists of 2 each IBM p720's, a CR6 HMC, and a KVM drawer.
>>
>> The p720 do NOT have any hard drives or carriers, but both are available
>> via
>> Ebay. The carrier was used in more than one model, and in the past I've
>> bought carriers with small disks for < $20 each, then found larger disks
>> of
>> various brands.
>>
>> And the rails are missing from the p720's.
>>
>> Google "ibm p720"
>>
>> I can't remember how much RAM, number of CPUs etc but one p720 was
>> 'loaded'.
>>
>> If interested let me know and
>>
>> If anyone knows a good AIX list please let me know
>>
>> I'll try to get a few photo's this weekend.
>>
>> The 'stack' is located in Portland, Oregon.
>>
>> NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.
>>
>>
>> -pete
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

The serial numbers

p720

8202-E4B 106AD5P
8202-E4B 106AD6P

HMC

7042-CR4  10-72F0B

On Sat, May 12, 2018, 5:28 AM Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> This time not so 'classic'
>
> My last job was maintaining IBM p7's and eventually p8's.
>
> One thing I started was putting together a home setup. But like all the
> other
> projects the gear has become redundant to me.
>
> The 'stack' consists of 2 each IBM p720's, a CR6 HMC, and a KVM drawer.
>
> The p720 do NOT have any hard drives or carriers, but both are available
> via
> Ebay. The carrier was used in more than one model, and in the past I've
> bought carriers with small disks for < $20 each, then found larger disks of
> various brands.
>
> And the rails are missing from the p720's.
>
> Google "ibm p720"
>
> I can't remember how much RAM, number of CPUs etc but one p720 was
> 'loaded'.
>
> If interested let me know and
>
> If anyone knows a good AIX list please let me know
>
> I'll try to get a few photo's this weekend.
>
> The 'stack' is located in Portland, Oregon.
>
> NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.
>
>
> -pete
>
>
>
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

And I almost bid on the 2 CEC p770's until I looked at the power
consumption the way I had them configured. 768 GB RAM and I think 24 cores,
I would have had to add a new circuit to the room.



On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 8:46 AM, Mazzini Alessandro  wrote:

> 48.x KG for the rack version, according to the redbook.
>
> Reminds me of the time I fell into an open traphole with a portable AS/400
> in hand. The concrete chipped... the AS didn't have even a scratch in the
> paint
>
> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Pete
> Lancashire via cctalk
> Inviato: sabato 12 maggio 2018 16:31
> A: Noel Chiappa; General
> Oggetto: Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this
> time
>
> Noel is right there is Pak Mail. But Pak Mail is not cheap and these
> suckers weight a lot my guest is stack is about 300 lbs
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2018, 6:28 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > > From: Pete Lancashire
> >
> > > NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.
> >
> > Just a reminded to everyone; most PakMail franchises are prepared to go
> > somewhere off-site, pick items up where they sit, and then pack them;
> I've
> > used this service several times for 'pick up only' items.
> >
> > Noel
> >
> >
>
>
>

R: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk]

48.x KG for the rack version, according to the redbook.

Reminds me of the time I fell into an open traphole with a portable AS/400 in 
hand. The concrete chipped... the AS didn't have even a scratch in the paint

-Messaggio originale-
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Pete Lancashire 
via cctalk
Inviato: sabato 12 maggio 2018 16:31
A: Noel Chiappa; General
Oggetto: Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

Noel is right there is Pak Mail. But Pak Mail is not cheap and these
suckers weight a lot my guest is stack is about 300 lbs

On Sat, May 12, 2018, 6:28 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk 
wrote:

> > From: Pete Lancashire
>
> > NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.
>
> Just a reminded to everyone; most PakMail franchises are prepared to go
> somewhere off-site, pick items up where they sit, and then pack them; I've
> used this service several times for 'pick up only' items.
>
> Noel
>
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Noel Chiappa via cctalk]

> From: Pete Lancashire

> Pak Mail is not cheap 

Actually, since they buy 'in bulk' from carriers, they are surprisingly
reasonable; their quote to ship an H960 rack from Arizona to me was less
than I was quoted by some carriers.

Noel

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

I was asked about configuration. Everything nowadays is a bit foggy but one
of the p720 s I had converted to a split back plane and was running it with
a pair of VIO serves it is also setup for Enterprise VM. It also has fiber
cards to go to a SAN The other was a standalone DR that's the one that's
pretty loaded sadly the disk we're pulled and it had over a terabyte of
hard drives. The last time I looked it would run you less than $500 to fill
both of them with hard drives and carriers

I guess I have to say no software is included.



On Sat, May 12, 2018, 5:28 AM Pete Lancashire 
wrote:

> This time not so 'classic'
>
> My last job was maintaining IBM p7's and eventually p8's.
>
> One thing I started was putting together a home setup. But like all the
> other
> projects the gear has become redundant to me.
>
> The 'stack' consists of 2 each IBM p720's, a CR6 HMC, and a KVM drawer.
>
> The p720 do NOT have any hard drives or carriers, but both are available
> via
> Ebay. The carrier was used in more than one model, and in the past I've
> bought carriers with small disks for < $20 each, then found larger disks of
> various brands.
>
> And the rails are missing from the p720's.
>
> Google "ibm p720"
>
> I can't remember how much RAM, number of CPUs etc but one p720 was
> 'loaded'.
>
> If interested let me know and
>
> If anyone knows a good AIX list please let me know
>
> I'll try to get a few photo's this weekend.
>
> The 'stack' is located in Portland, Oregon.
>
> NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.
>
>
> -pete
>
>
>
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Noel Chiappa via cctalk]

> From: Yvan Janssens 
> ...
> I'm located at the other side of the planet.
> Would PakMail work for that as well?

Pakmail can _send_ to most countries (they can only do _pickups_ in the US
and Canada, that I know of), but of course sending a large object a long way
can be expensive. I don't know if they can do surface (i.e. boat) to
destinations outside North America, or just air - check their Web-site.

Noel

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

Noel is right there is Pak Mail. But Pak Mail is not cheap and these
suckers weight a lot my guest is stack is about 300 lbs

On Sat, May 12, 2018, 6:28 AM Noel Chiappa via cctalk 
wrote:

> > From: Pete Lancashire
>
> > NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.
>
> Just a reminded to everyone; most PakMail franchises are prepared to go
> somewhere off-site, pick items up where they sit, and then pack them; I've
> used this service several times for 'pick up only' items.
>
> Noel
>
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Yvan Janssens via cctalk]

I am quite interested in one of them, but I’m located at the other side of
the planet.

Would PakMail work for that as well?
On Sat, 12 May 2018 at 14:28, Noel Chiappa via cctalk 
wrote:

> > From: Pete Lancashire
>
> > NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.
>
> Just a reminded to everyone; most PakMail franchises are prepared to go
> somewhere off-site, pick items up where they sit, and then pack them; I've
> used this service several times for 'pick up only' items.
>
> Noel
>

Re: Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Noel Chiappa via cctalk]

> From: Pete Lancashire

> NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.

Just a reminded to everyone; most PakMail franchises are prepared to go
somewhere off-site, pick items up where they sit, and then pack them; I've
used this service several times for 'pick up only' items.

Noel

Next 'stack' of computers to go, IBM p7's - not classics this time

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

This time not so 'classic'

My last job was maintaining IBM p7's and eventually p8's.

One thing I started was putting together a home setup. But like all the
other
projects the gear has become redundant to me.

The 'stack' consists of 2 each IBM p720's, a CR6 HMC, and a KVM drawer.

The p720 do NOT have any hard drives or carriers, but both are available via
Ebay. The carrier was used in more than one model, and in the past I've
bought carriers with small disks for < $20 each, then found larger disks of
various brands.

And the rails are missing from the p720's.

Google "ibm p720"

I can't remember how much RAM, number of CPUs etc but one p720 was
'loaded'.

If interested let me know and

If anyone knows a good AIX list please let me know

I'll try to get a few photo's this weekend.

The 'stack' is located in Portland, Oregon.

NO PACKING OR SHIPPING, must be local pickup.


-pete