[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
EC) M849 M3310 On 16/11/2023 20:53, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote: Do you have any more of the DEC PDP-8 e/m/f front panels? I'm looking for one that matches the layout attached. I don't care what model (e/m/f etc.) it's for, but the rotary switch layout needs to be right and I prefer

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Try printing them in PETG: I've printed several of them for my 8/L and they equal the strength of factory switches. Even the little pins are more than strong enough. PETG does require a higher printing temperature (220c-230c) but is well worth it and a massive improvement over PLA. Chris

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
I have tired to print the paddle handles both SLA and FDM and none match the quality and strength of injected molded paddles. Unless you print an entire set (light and dark colors) it is nearly impossible to match the colors also.  Even if you were to find the perfect filament or resin color,

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk
Hi Bob     The attachment seems to be missing. Rod Also I hae some more boards available M7856     X 2 M863     X 2 M837    X 2 M8650 M8320 M880 + H241 (MR8 EC) M849 M3310 On 16/11/2023 20:53, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote: Do you have any more of the DEC PDP-8 e/m/f front panels? I'm

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
On 11/16/2023 12:53 PM, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote: Do you have any more of the DEC PDP-8 e/m/f front panels? I'm looking for one that matches the layout attached. I don't care what model (e/m/f etc.) it's for, but the rotary switch layout needs to be right and I prefer the matte finish

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
I had some toggles printed for me professionally, but they are inferior to the originals and the colours don't match. If anyone has spare DEC LAB-8/e switches please let me know. Thanks Tom On Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 10:14 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/17/2023 8:52 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: Hi Bob, I can't help with your search for 8/e front panels, but you mentioned "green switch boards". I have a nicely restored DEC LAB-8/e with green switch toggles. Do you have spare green switch toggles? I would love to have one dark green

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
the actual switch, but would be happy to take the toggles with switch. Please let me know if you can help. Tanks and best regards Tom Hunter On Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 2:18 PM Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Do you have any more of the DEC PDP-8 e/m/f front panels? >

[cctalk] PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-16 Thread Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
Do you have any more of the DEC PDP-8 e/m/f front panels? I'm looking for one that matches the layout attached. I don't care what model (e/m/f etc.) it's for, but the rotary switch layout needs to be right and I prefer the matte finish. Color is not important either I have orange, green

Re: Re: DEC PDP-8/e H212 core mat repair

2021-07-20 Thread Richard Milward via cctalk
Going by the size, I'd say the Keronix board is for a Data General Nova or one of its ilk. Keronix did make core boards with p/n starting 816 for Novas. **Richard Message: 1 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 16:50:10 -0500 From: Jules Richardson To:cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: DEC PDP-8/e H212 core

Re: DEC PDP-8/e H212 core mat repair

2021-07-19 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2021-07-19 6:06 p.m., Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: > > Yes most core stringing was outsourced. > There's more detail on early core production in the book "IBM's Early Computers", iirc. (And possibly "A Few Good Men From Univac".) > ... > Rod Smallwood   -- Digital Equipment Corporation 

Re: DEC PDP-8/e H212 core mat repair

2021-07-19 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk
Yes most core stringing was outsourced. By hand under magnification was used. I cant recall any references to automation. That would br down to the supplier. The story I heard was at least some were done by embroidery girls in Hong Kong Rod Smallwood   -- Digital Equipment Corporation 

Re: DEC PDP-8/e H212 core mat repair

2021-07-19 Thread Jules Richardson via cctalk
On 7/19/21 3:40 AM, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: I believe much of the core manufacturing for DEC minicomputers was outsourced, but a lot of it had become much more automated by the late 60's and early 70's. I've got a trio of planes here, two of which are from a Lockheed MAC-16, but the

Re: DEC PDP-8/e H212 core mat repair

2021-07-19 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
< cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Tom Hunter via cctalk" > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > > Sent: Monday, 19 Jul, 2021 At 06:33 > Subject: DEC PDP-8/e H212 core mat re

Re: DEC PDP-8/e H212 core mat repair

2021-07-19 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
-- Original Message -- From: "Tom Hunter via cctalk" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Monday, 19 Jul, 2021 At 06:33 Subject: DEC PDP-8/e H212 core mat repair I am curious if anyone has attempted to repair (replace) a broken wir

Re: DEC PDP-8/e H212 core mat repair

2021-07-19 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
-- Original Message -- From: "Tom Hunter via cctalk" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Monday, 19 Jul, 2021 At 06:33 Subject: DEC PDP-8/e H212 core mat repair I am curious if anyone has attempted to repair (replace) a broken wir

Re: DEC PDP-8/e H212 core mat repair

2021-07-19 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Tom said > I am curious if anyone has attempted to repair (replace) a broken wire in a > PDP-8/e H212 (MM8EJ) core mat (8 k word). The cores are not visible without > a microscope. I cannot imagine how these were even manufactured and wonder > if DEC service centers repaired cor

DEC PDP-8/e H212 core mat repair

2021-07-18 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
I am curious if anyone has attempted to repair (replace) a broken wire in a PDP-8/e H212 (MM8EJ) core mat (8 k word). The cores are not visible without a microscope. I cannot imagine how these were even manufactured and wonder if DEC service centers repaired core mat faults or if faulty boards

PDP-8/e M8652 KL8F Double-buffered asynch terminal control

2021-05-20 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
I am looking for the manual for the following Omnibus board: M8652 KL8F Double-buffered asynch terminal control Is there a scanned copy of the manual and/or schematic or any other information for this board somewhere? Thanks and best regards Tom Hunter

Re: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication

2021-05-16 Thread Charles Dickman via cctalk
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 1:12 PM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > I would suggest Caig > > I would suggest researching and understanding what their snake oil does > before > using any Caig product. > > Do not underestimate the lure of a good snake oil. I long for the smell of my ASR33. That

RE: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication

2021-05-12 Thread W2HX via cctalk
ing to use his PDP-8/E in a salt fog. And the author indicates probably won't make your stereo sound better (or at least as good as the oxygenated copper power cord for $250). The OP wasn’t looking for rust removal or oxidation removal, so what it lacks doesn’t seem to disadvantage the op. I

RE: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication

2021-05-12 Thread Paul Birkel via cctalk
icants.com/datasheet/SDS_US_English_NYOGEL+760G.pdf -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tom Hunter via cctalk Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:13 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrica

Re: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication

2021-05-11 Thread dwight via cctalk
@classiccmp.org Cc: W2HX Subject: Re: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication I've been successfully using Deoxit and related products for many years, after I learned of them from government projects where I was a consultant. In a specific case: My PDP-8/E has 32K of core memory in four banks

Re: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication

2021-05-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 11 May 2021, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: https://www.hagensieker.com/wordpress/2018/06/18/deoxit-what-is-it-what-isnt-it/ and Ben synthesizes some corrosion inhibitor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpRrP3sqQLw OK, so chemically, it's mostly lighter fluid, which does work well for

Re: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication

2021-05-11 Thread Lyle Bickley via cctalk
I've been successfully using Deoxit and related products for many years, after I learned of them from government projects where I was a consultant. In a specific case: My PDP-8/E has 32K of core memory in four banks (original DEC). Several years ago, it developed random memory errors. I did all

Re: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication

2021-05-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 5/11/21 11:23 AM, W2HX wrote: In probably 30 years I've been repairing equipment and among the dozen or so electronics forums I belong to, you may be the first person I've run across to throw some shade on that product.

RE: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication

2021-05-11 Thread W2HX via cctalk
: cctalk On Behalf Of Al Kossow via cctalk Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 1:12 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication > I would suggest Caig I would suggest researching and understanding what their snake oil does before using any Caig product.

Re: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication

2021-05-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
I would suggest Caig I would suggest researching and understanding what their snake oil does before using any Caig product.

Re: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication

2021-05-11 Thread Don R via cctalk
ter via > cctalk > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 11:14 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication > > What is the best type of lubricant for Omnibus backplanes? > It can be a struggle to insert and remove PD

RE: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication

2021-05-11 Thread W2HX via cctalk
bject: DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication What is the best type of lubricant for Omnibus backplanes? It can be a struggle to insert and remove PDP-8/e boards into the Omnibus. There is a risk of damage to the brittle bakelite connector housings on the Omnibus PCB. Traditional contact spr

DEC PDP-8/e Omnibus backplane lubrication

2021-05-10 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
What is the best type of lubricant for Omnibus backplanes? It can be a struggle to insert and remove PDP-8/e boards into the Omnibus. There is a risk of damage to the brittle bakelite connector housings on the Omnibus PCB. Traditional contact sprays should work but have two problems: 1

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted - still looking

2020-11-27 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 11/27/2020 3:07 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: I don't really want to have to learn how to play Adventure to reproduce this. Games are not my thing except maybe chess. Best regards Tom Hunter Adventure immediately types out a 4 or 5 line "room" description, which is in the initial case

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted - still looking

2020-11-27 Thread Rick Murphy via cctalk
On 11/27/2020 6:07 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: Hi Dave, Thanks for Bob Armstrong's old email. I have not seen Jim's VHDL code, but I am quite confident I can fix this. Tom Urban wrote that the IOB6120 is misbehaving, so I will have to do some fault finding or debugging anyway. I would

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted - still looking

2020-11-27 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Bob > > > > > > *From:* Tom Hunter > *Sent:* 27 November 2020 01:08 > *To:* Dave Wade > *Cc:* General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > *Subject:* Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted - still looking > > > > Hi Dave, >

RE: DEC PDP-8/E wanted - still looking

2020-11-27 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
:-) Bob From: Tom Hunter Sent: 27 November 2020 01:08 To: Dave Wade Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted - still looking Hi Dave, Could you please explain how exactly the VT emulation "kills" the Fortran run time system in OS

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted - still looking

2020-11-26 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
at smecc we have an extra  first model classic-8    in a  rack  the  blue  one  that  a  white  desk  section can mount to     not the Plexiglas surrounds   do not  know what it  would  take  to plexi one  but this is in a  rack.  downside? it is at the back of  a warehouse  so it  would  not 

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted - still looking

2020-11-26 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
OS8. > > Dave > G4UGM > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Tom Hunter via > > cctalk > > Sent: 26 November 2020 06:02 > > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > > > Subject: DEC PDP-8/E wanted - s

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted - still looking

2020-11-26 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
ront-panel and IO board is on its way to me. :-) I am still looking to buy one of the following PDP-8 models: PDP-8/F PDP-8/E PDP-8/L PDP-8/I PDP-8/M Dave, Chris, Paul and Robert I am looking forward to getting more details from you. I am happy to pay a reasonable price for the right PDP-8, so a se

RE: DEC PDP-8/E wanted - still looking

2020-11-26 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
> Subject: DEC PDP-8/E wanted - still looking > > Tom Uban fully built "Spare Time Gizmos" SBC6120 based computer > complete > with front-panel and IO board is on its way to me. :-) > > I am still looking to buy one of the following PDP-8 models: > > PD

DEC PDP-8/E wanted - still looking

2020-11-25 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Tom Uban fully built "Spare Time Gizmos" SBC6120 based computer complete with front-panel and IO board is on its way to me. :-) I am still looking to buy one of the following PDP-8 models: PDP-8/F PDP-8/E PDP-8/L PDP-8/I PDP-8/M Dave, Chris, Paul and Robert I am looking forward

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-23 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
I have received a lot of feedback about desirable DEC PDP-8 models. Here is my updated list of PDP-8 models I would be interested in buying: PDP-8/F PDP-8/E PDP-8/L PDP-8/I PDP-8/M I am also interested in buying a "Spare Time Gizmos" SBC6120 based computer complete with front-panel an

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-22 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Oscar makes one run of his PiDP-8/I kit about every month. The complete kit is only $165 plus $40 for shipping. I got the kit in September and it is easy to assemble if you know how to solder. It took me about 4 hours. The kit is based on SIMH running on a Raspberry PI. The front panel size is 60%

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-22 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
On 11/20/2020 8:01 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > >> I know it is the year 2020 but nevertheless what are my chances of > finding > >> a complete and repairable DEC PDP-8/E or as a second choice a PDP-8/I ? > >> > >> Is there any ho

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-22 Thread Thomas Moss via cctalk
Chris, Whoops, somehow I'd read your reply to Tom Uban but completely misread what it was you were asking by skimming over what he said. Anyway, as far as SBC6120s go, I don't know of anyone "building them", as in a ready built system, but blank PCBs are available on chipkin.ru if you can

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-22 Thread Thomas Moss via cctalk
nce/pidp-8 2) The SBC6120 - Originally by Spare Time Gizmos, but now re-released by the RetroBrew Computers community. This is a 6120 based PDP-8/e replica, with optional front panel. (the panel doesn't appear to be made "officially" anymore, as the design files are missing, but a Rus

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-22 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Sun, Nov 22, 2020, 5:01 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > On Nov 20, 2020, at 10:08 AM, Tom Uban via cctalk > wrote: > > > > For those interested in a PDP-8 system but don't want the large > size/weight and > > maintenance issues, I built the full set of Spare Time Gizmos SBC6120 >

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-22 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Nov 20, 2020, at 10:08 AM, Tom Uban via cctalk wrote: > > For those interested in a PDP-8 system but don't want the large size/weight > and > maintenance issues, I built the full set of Spare Time Gizmos SBC6120 > (integrated > PDP-8), FP6120 (front panel for SBC6120) and IOB6120 (Jim

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-21 Thread Tom Uban via cctalk
plete and repairable DEC PDP-8/E or as a second choice a PDP-8/I ? >> >> Is there any hope or should I be just content with my SIMH based PiDP-8/I? >> >> Thanks >> Tom Hunter > Funny you should mention... > > There is a guy in Endicott, NY with a PDP-8/

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-21 Thread davemaho via cctalk
memory address location. The asr33 is DEC modified.. Best regards, Dave Mahoney Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 20, 2020, at 9:01 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk > wrote: > > I know it is the year 2020 but nevertheless what are my chances of finding > a complete and repairable DEC PDP-8/E

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-21 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Hi John, If you see any other PDP-8/E,F,L,I for sale could you please keep me in mind and let me know? Thanks and best regards Tom Hunter On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 11:43 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 11/20/2020 8:01 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wro

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-20 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
All the 8 m and f I had when in comp. Biz in the 80s had the full front panel...   guess I lucked out... Now,8a. Could cone either way into my shop though On Friday, November 20, 2020 Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: On 20/11/2020 16:55, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > > Go for a 8m or f 

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-20 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 20/11/2020 16:55, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: Go for a 8m or f  same omnibus and easer to lift as only onevnibuss panel!  - Also a switchmode PSU which is much lighter than the -8/E linear supply. But the -8/M normally has the minimal panel with the power key and minimal toggle switches.

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-20 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
and repairable DEC PDP-8/E or as a second choice a PDP-8/I ? Is there any hope or should I be just content with my SIMH based PiDP-8/I? Thanks Tom Hunter

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-20 Thread Robert Ollerton via cctalk
How close to Tucson are you located or willing to haul? On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 7:01 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > I know it is the year 2020 but nevertheless what are my chances of finding > a complete and repairable DEC PDP-8/E or as a second choice a PDP-8/I ? > > Is th

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-20 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
mplete and repairable DEC PDP-8/E or as a second choice a PDP-8/I ? > > Is there any hope or should I be just content with my SIMH based PiDP-8/I? > > Thanks > Tom Hunter Funny you should mention... There is a guy in Endicott, NY with a PDP-8/E possibly looking for a new home.  Pos

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-20 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 11/20/2020 8:01 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: I know it is the year 2020 but nevertheless what are my chances of finding a complete and repairable DEC PDP-8/E or as a second choice a PDP-8/I ? Is there any hope or should I be just content with my SIMH based PiDP-8/I? Thanks Tom Hunter

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-20 Thread rice43 via cctalk
I wouldn't get your hopes up. Finding a PDP-8 of any description is going to be fairly difficult in this day and age, even a PDP-8/A. I'd assume that the majority of those that were made were either scrapped, or are now in private hands, where the owners would be unwilling to part with

DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-20 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
I know it is the year 2020 but nevertheless what are my chances of finding a complete and repairable DEC PDP-8/E or as a second choice a PDP-8/I ? Is there any hope or should I be just content with my SIMH based PiDP-8/I? Thanks Tom Hunter

PDP-8/E MM8-E jumper settings

2019-10-24 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
I've lost track of where the jumper settings are documented for the MM8-E, and I've got five sets here that have all been changed one way or another. Can anybody remind me where to find the settings for the three EMA jumper links on the G111? I want to set at least one board set to the lowest

PDP-8/e rebuild - update.

2018-12-09 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
Went to toggle in the RIM loader – huh ! Memory address 04 stuck low. So either try another 4k core (after changing the jumpers) or... Trace the signal path. What do we think? Rod Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Johannes Thelen via cctalk
land Before microcomputers blog (Finnish) http://ennenmikrotietokoneita.blogspot.fi/ From: cctalk on behalf of Rod G8DGR via cctalk Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 11:59 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: PDP-8/e Hi All Seasons Greetings

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
port driver should do this, too, so cat would work. A PDP-8/E doesn't have a CTS pin and the loaders don't support XON/XOFF, though. I remember loading paper tapes into a PDP-8, and the reader would stutter, so I think there was some sort of signal from the serial interface board to control

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
mallwood - Digital Equipment Corporation 1975 – 1985 > > > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Josh Dersch via cctalk > *Sent: *08 December 2018 06:36 > *To: *General Discussion: On-Topic and Of

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Jay Jaeger > That code would not run in Windows of course, but it wouldn't be all > that difficult for someone with a C programming background to move it > to Windows under gnucc, or even Microsoft C++ or C#. I highly recommend CygWin (which comes with 'gnucc) for doing C

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
rom: Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk > Sent: 08 December 2018 03:41 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: PDP-8/e > > On 12/7/2018 7:01 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: >> On 07/12/2018 17:44, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: >>> On 12/07/2018 11:22 AM, systems

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 08/12/2018 09:55, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Nice try Josh - close – you have to change the crystal first and you can’t get them. Both Farnell and Mouser UK have suitable crystals. They don't have to be the same physical size. I've changed several. -- Pete Pete Turnbull

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 12/8/18 1:55 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Nice try Josh - close – you have to change the crystal first and you can’t get them. Dead bug a programmable epson ttl oscillator module, available from digikey

RE: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
: Re: PDP-8/e On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 10:29 PM Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: > It can only do 110 baud !! > Unless you have an oddball SLU, this is not true -- what do you have installed? The earlier M8650 and the later M8655 can both be jumpered for higher baud rates. - Josh > > Se

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
gt; Sent from Mail for Windows 110 baud > > From: Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk > Sent: 08 December 2018 03:41 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: PDP-8/e > > On 12/7/2018 7:01 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > > On 07/12/2018 17:44, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > >

RE: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
I’m sure that would work but I only have an 8650 110 baud only card Rod Sent from Mail for Windows 110 baud From: Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk Sent: 08 December 2018 03:41 To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: PDP-8/e On 12/7/2018 7:01 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > On 07/12/2018 17

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 12:36 AM Josh Dersch via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 10:29 PM Rod G8DGR via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > > It can only do 110 baud !! > > > > Unless you have an oddball SLU, this is not true -- what do you have >

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
for Windows 10 > > From: Pete Turnbull via cctalk > Sent: 08 December 2018 03:15 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: PDP-8/e > > On 07/12/2018 17:46, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/07/2018 11:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: > >> Oh good how do y

RE: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
It can only do 110 baud !! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Pete Turnbull via cctalk Sent: 08 December 2018 03:15 To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: PDP-8/e On 07/12/2018 17:46, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 12/07/2018 11:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: >> Oh good how d

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
port driver should do this, too, so cat would work. A PDP-8/E doesn't have a CTS pin and the loaders don't support XON/XOFF, though. The PDP-8 needs to control the serial CTS function. This was called reader-run when using a Teletype machine. FOCAL won't load without it. You can modify

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
the serial card in the PDP-8/E to something faster anyway? Although on one of the serial cards, that requires a crystal change, so though commonly done, may not be practical for Rod. -- Pete Pete Turnbull

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
. A PDP-8/E doesn't have a CTS pin and the loaders don't support XON/XOFF, though. -- Pete Pete Turnbull

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/07/2018 11:46 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 12/07/2018 11:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Oh good how do you set them to 110 baud? Oh, WOW! Good catch, it only goes down to 300 baud! major screwup, ought to be reported to the developers. Jon stty can set the speed to 110

Re: PDP-8/e/f/m Front Panel Knob Wanted (also general information)

2018-12-07 Thread Rick Murphy via cctalk
On 12/7/2018 7:20 PM, Thomas Moss via cctalk wrote: Hi All, I have a PDP-8/e that's missing the knob on the front panel. Does anyone have a spare for sale, or know of a compatible part? Do you mean the knob that selects which data to display on the panel lights? Got one,  bit dinged up

PDP-8/e/f/m Front Panel Knob Wanted (also general information)

2018-12-07 Thread Thomas Moss via cctalk
Hi All, I have a PDP-8/e that's missing the knob on the front panel. Does anyone have a spare for sale, or know of a compatible part? Looking up the DEC parts numbers has turned up nothing but the engineering drawings... I've never seen another one in person so I can't tell if the knob is meant

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Rob Doyle via cctalk
Teraterm on Windows definitely goes to 110 baud. I use it all the time... Rob. On 12/7/2018 10:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Oh good how do you set them to 110 baud? Rod Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
osoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Warner Losh via cctalk > *Sent: *07 December 2018 17:36 > *To: *systems_glitch ; General Discussion: > On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > *Subject: *Re: PDP-8/e > > > > These days I just use tip. &

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/07/2018 11:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Oh good how do you set them to 110 baud? Oh, WOW! Good catch, it only goes down to 300 baud! major screwup, ought to be reported to the developers. Jon

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/07/2018 11:22 AM, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote: Indeed, unless you need character pacing. Actually, with the correct settings of the serial port (xon/xoff or CTS pin) the serial port driver should do this, too, so cat would work. Jon

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 07/12/2018 17:22, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote: Indeed, unless you need character pacing. Thanks, Jonathan That's just what I was going to say :-) And also provided you remember which entry in /dev to redirect cat's output to, and what arcane stty command you need to set baud rate

RE: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
Er whats tip? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Warner Losh via cctalk Sent: 07 December 2018 17:36 To: systems_glitch; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP-8/e These days I just use tip. Warner On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 10:25 AM systems_glitch via cctalk < cct

RE: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
Oh good how do you set them to 110 baud? Rod Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: systems_glitch via cctalk Sent: 07 December 2018 17:06 To: Jon Elson; CCTalk Subject: Re: PDP-8/e minicom on Linux/*BSD and OS X, TeraTerm under Windows. Thanks, Jonathan On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 11:48 AM Jon

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
These days I just use tip. Warner On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 10:25 AM systems_glitch via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org wrote: > Indeed, unless you need character pacing. > > Thanks, > Jonathan > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 12:13 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > I

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
Indeed, unless you need character pacing. Thanks, Jonathan On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 12:13 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I just use ‘cat’. Seems to work fine. ;-) > > TTFN - Guy > > > On Dec 7, 2018, at 4:57 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk < >

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
I just use ‘cat’. Seems to work fine. ;-) TTFN - Guy > On Dec 7, 2018, at 4:57 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk > wrote: > > On 07/12/2018 09:59, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: > >> OK now I need a little help. >> Does anybody know of a terminal emulation program that will simulate the >> reader

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
minicom on Linux/*BSD and OS X, TeraTerm under Windows. Thanks, Jonathan On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 11:48 AM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 12/07/2018 03:59 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: > > > > Does anybody know of a terminal emulation program that will simulate the > reader on an ASR33? > >

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/07/2018 03:59 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Does anybody know of a terminal emulation program that will simulate the reader on an ASR33? I know about RIM and BIN loaders but how and what to feed them I have long forgotten My PDP-8 course completion certificate is dated November

RE: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread mike via cctalk
? Mike Zahorik (414) 254-6768 -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brian L. Stuart via cctalk Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 10:05 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; Rod G8DGR Subject: Re: PDP-8/e Several years ago when I

RE: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread mike via cctalk
? Mike Zahorik (414) 254-6768 -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brian L. Stuart via cctalk Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 10:05 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; Rod G8DGR Subject: Re: PDP-8/e Several years ago when I

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Brian L. Stuart via cctalk
On Fri, 12/7/18, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Subject: PDP-8/e To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Date: Friday, December 7, 2018, 4:59 AM Hi All   Seasons Greetings.. My PDP-8/e was long due for a major overhaul. 1. So everything o

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 07/12/2018 09:59, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: OK now I need a little help. Does anybody know of a terminal emulation program that will simulate the reader on an ASR33? I know about RIM and BIN loaders but how and what to feed them I have long forgotten For a Unix or Linux machine,

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
Congrats!! On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 3:59 AM Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: > > Hi All >Seasons Greetings.. > > My PDP-8/e was long due for a major overhaul. > 1. So everything out > 2. Big Hoover job on the Omnibus > 3. Bring up on Variac – No smoke > 4. Check PSU vol

PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
Hi All Seasons Greetings.. My PDP-8/e was long due for a major overhaul. 1. So everything out 2. Big Hoover job on the Omnibus 3. Bring up on Variac – No smoke 4. Check PSU volts. – All OK 5. Power off 6. Install minimal System – Front Panel, Three CPU cards, RFI shield, 4k Core and Bus

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-16 Thread allison via cctalk
On 8/16/17 9:38 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote: On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:35 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: Note: TU58 (variant of DC100 tape) to my knowledge was never used with PDP-8 in any flavor. There is no reason why not other than no driver and it 8bit only and the

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-16 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:35 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: > Note: TU58 (variant of DC100 tape) to my knowledge was never used with PDP-8 > in any flavor. There is no reason why not other than no driver and it 8bit > only and the blocking is 512bytes. I remember a lot of

Re: pdp-8/e restoration update.

2017-08-12 Thread Michael Thompson via cctalk
> > Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 17:22:58 +0100 > From: Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> > Subject: pdp-8/e restoration update. > > Hi List > > Well I think I've found why the RX01 is not responding. > > The device address (75) is not getti

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