Re: Preserved LGP-30
The degradation and attracting bacteria is also why geeks don’t get to handle humans ... well, the halitosis, body odor, long hair/beards, etc., probably don’t help, either! All the Best, Jim On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 9:09 AM js--- via cctalk wrote: > > Different kind of oils, Christian. What humans leach isn't > petroleum-based, and it degrades and carries and attracts bacteria. > - J. >
Re: Preserved LGP-30
On 7/3/2018 3:58 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2018, "j...@cimmeri.com" wrote: Seriously! Liam, don't you know that handling paper with your hands transfers oils to it and hastens its decay? This is why gloves are worn to handle old paper artifacts. *lol* Especially with oiled paper tape that is exposed to daylight and much more. Christian Different kind of oils, Christian. What humans leach isn't petroleum-based, and it degrades and carries and attracts bacteria. - J.
Re: Preserved LGP-30
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 at 12:08, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > And wouldn't it be possible that tape strewn artistically is just that, a > prop? Especially given the pattern on the tape? Who would display the > real thing that way? Exactly! :-) It looked like a dummy to me, artfully arranged. Also, AFAICT, it was very new tape. If it was original, aged, and had any visible data, I literally wouldn't have touched it. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053
Re: Preserved LGP-30
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 4:58 AM Christian Corti via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jul 2018, "j...@cimmeri.com" wrote: > > Seriously! Liam, don't you know that handling paper with your hands > > transfers oils to it and hastens its decay? This is why gloves are worn > to > > handle old paper artifacts. > > *lol* > Especially with oiled paper tape that is exposed to daylight and much > more. > > Christian > And wouldn't it be possible that tape strewn artistically is just that, a prop? Especially given the pattern on the tape? Who would display the real thing that way? Bill >
Re: Preserved LGP-30
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018, "j...@cimmeri.com" wrote: Seriously! Liam, don't you know that handling paper with your hands transfers oils to it and hastens its decay? This is why gloves are worn to handle old paper artifacts. *lol* Especially with oiled paper tape that is exposed to daylight and much more. Christian
Re: Preserved LGP-30
On 7/2/2018 5:43 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: The Moravian Galley in Brno has an exhibition on "Computer Art 1968". The only actual computer is a very well-preserved German LGP-30. I took a few photos of it yesterday... and got told off for handling the paper tape, Asking people not to touch museum exhibits makes sense to me. On Mon, 2 Jul 2018, js--- via cctalk wrote: Seriously! Liam, don't you know that handling paper with your hands transfers oils to it and hastens its decay? This is why gloves are worn to handle old paper artifacts. Seriously! Don't they know that if it is within reach, then the museum attendees will reach over and handle? velvet ropes and glass cases Muir Woods is now a TREE MUSEUM!, with paved fenced walkways to keep people from touching the ancient redwoods. And they charge more than a dollar and a half just to see 'em. How can you balance the hands-on aspect that is so ESSENTIAL to the experience? Yes, but Liam is no ordinary museum attendee - he should have the experience to know better :-D Fred, I guess the rarity and cost of restoration of something determines whether it can be presented for hands-on experiences or not, as well as taking into account what the goals of the particular museum are. Museums are not under any particular obligation to have hands-on exhibits, as that option only raises their operating costs. Museums are typically show & tell... not show, share, and tell. Those who must have the full experience, buy their own examples. - J.
Re: Preserved LGP-30
The Moravian Galley in Brno has an exhibition on "Computer Art 1968". The only actual computer is a very well-preserved German LGP-30. I took a few photos of it yesterday... and got told off for handling the paper tape, Asking people not to touch museum exhibits makes sense to me. On Mon, 2 Jul 2018, js--- via cctalk wrote: Seriously! Liam, don't you know that handling paper with your hands transfers oils to it and hastens its decay? This is why gloves are worn to handle old paper artifacts. Seriously! Don't they know that if it is within reach, then the museum attendees will reach over and handle? velvet ropes and glass cases Muir Woods is now a TREE MUSEUM!, with paved fenced walkways to keep people from touching the ancient redwoods. And they charge more than a dollar and a half just to see 'em. How can you balance the hands-on aspect that is so ESSENTIAL to the experience?
Re: Preserved LGP-30
On 7/2/2018 7:51 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Jul 1, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: The Moravian Galley in Brno has an exhibition on "Computer Art 1968". The only actual computer is a very well-preserved German LGP-30. I took a few photos of it yesterday... and got told off for handling the paper tape, Asking people not to touch museum exhibits makes sense to me. Seriously! Liam, don't you know that handling paper with your hands transfers oils to it and hastens its decay? This is why gloves are worn to handle old paper artifacts. - J.
Re: Preserved LGP-30
> On Jul 1, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > The Moravian Galley in Brno has an exhibition on "Computer Art 1968". > The only actual computer is a very well-preserved German LGP-30. I > took a few photos of it yesterday... and got told off for handling the > paper tape, Asking people not to touch museum exhibits makes sense to me. > https://www.flickr.com/photos/lproven/albums/72157696907302261 Neat. German labels on the controls... paul
Preserved LGP-30
The Moravian Galley in Brno has an exhibition on "Computer Art 1968". The only actual computer is a very well-preserved German LGP-30. I took a few photos of it yesterday... and got told off for handling the paper tape, which only has some diagnostics on it: blocks of "lace" alternating with unpunched blocks. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lproven/albums/72157696907302261 It was used by Zdeňek Sýkora in his early abstract art. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zden%C4%9Bk_S%C3%BDkora -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053
