Re: Quantum ATL-7100 DLT Changer in SLC

2022-04-09 Thread Tim Riker via cctalk
I imagine someone hauling this to an event, and running it in shuffle 
mode with the door open. :)


On 4/9/2022 11:48 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:

On 09/04/2022 16:58, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
You wouldn’t be able to put TK-70 drives in this, wrong interface.  I 
don’t know if DEC DLT drives capable of reading TK50’s and TK70’s 
will work in one.


I have two TZ877 units, each of which contains a TZ87, and those will 
read TK50 and TK70 tapes. Whether a TZ87 will work in this drive or 
not, I don't know.


The internal interface board in the TZ877 presents a SCSI interface to 
the outside world.


I realise no-one is going to put a TZ-anything inside a Quantum tape 
library, but just in case ...


Antonio


Re: Quantum ATL-7100 DLT Changer in SLC

2022-04-09 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk

On 09/04/2022 16:58, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

You wouldn’t be able to put TK-70 drives in this, wrong interface.  I don’t 
know if DEC DLT drives capable of reading TK50’s and TK70’s will work in one.


I have two TZ877 units, each of which contains a TZ87, and those will 
read TK50 and TK70 tapes. Whether a TZ87 will work in this drive or not, 
I don't know.


The internal interface board in the TZ877 presents a SCSI interface to 
the outside world.



I realise no-one is going to put a TZ-anything inside a Quantum tape 
library, but just in case ...




Antonio



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Re: Quantum ATL-7100 DLT Changer in SLC

2022-04-09 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
You wouldn’t be able to put TK-70 drives in this, wrong interface.  I don’t 
know if DEC DLT drives capable of reading TK50’s and TK70’s will work in one.  
We only used DLT III and DLT IV tapes in them.  We first got one of these 
something like 25 years ago.  The earliest ones are rock solid, really well 
built, and very simple to repair.  Same with the smaller Quantum 4/52.  At the 
time Quantum wouldn’t send out a Quantum FE to work on the 4/52’s or 7100’s.  
I’d get the guy out to diagnose the problem, get the replacement parts ordered, 
and then when the parts came in I’d never tell him, I simply replaced them 
myself.  Just be careful when taking the big side panel off that hides the 
electronics, otherwise you’ll rip out the sense switch.  If you can find a 
source of spares, you can probably keep one of these going without too much 
trouble.

As for the problem this one has, with the load port, just fold a piece of 
corrugated cardboard in half, and use it to hold the door close, I ran one in 
production for a couple years, so I could avoid putting in a service call.

I’ve worked with Tape Libraries for over 25 years, and the 4/52 and 7100 are 
two of my favorites.  The Quantum P3000 is my least favorite.  The Quantum 
i2000’s and i6000’s were also rock solid, but I wouldn’t want one of those at 
home.  

On the topic of old Quantum tape libraries, does anyone happen to know of a 
company that will provide 3rd Party support on them?

Zane



> On Apr 9, 2022, at 6:37 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> I have this strong desire to pick this up and install TK70 tape units. 
> Finally I can back up my pdp11 items in style :-)
> 
> C
> 
> On 4/8/2022 11:58 PM, Tim Riker via cctalk wrote:
>> I have a Quantum ATL-7100 100 tape DLT changer. Last I checked it worked 
>> fine. It's almost as big as a fridge. I have around 100 tapes for it, not 
>> all the same density. It uses fast/wide scsi-3 differential for the drives. 
>> I think I have 2 working drives in the cabinet plus one or 2 separate 
>> external drives.
>> I think my drives are DLT-7000 or similar which gives a total capacity of 
>> 7TB.
>> Upgraded with SDLT 220 drives and tapes the chassis would have a capacity of 
>> 22TB.
>> Anyone interested in picking this up in South Jordan Utah? (outside Salt 
>> Lake City).
>> The only issues I know about it, is the tape loading pivoting door is not 
>> quite rotating correctly, and I replaced one of the AT power supplies with a 
>> unit that is NOT autoswitching. So if you want to run the unit on 220V 
>> instead of 110, you will need to change the chassis and the replaced 
>> internal power supply.
>> It's really fun to load it up with tapes, then tell it to auto-shuffle them. 
>> I have the door hot wired so you can open the door while it's operating. 
>> Easy to restore the switch if you don't want to.
>> Photos here:
>> https://rikers.org/gallery/hardware-atl7100
>> Interested, please email directly, I don't check the list very often.
>> Tim



Re: Quantum ATL-7100 DLT Changer in SLC

2022-04-09 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk

On 2022-04-09 09:37, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
I have this strong desire to pick this up and install TK70 tape units. 
Finally I can back up my pdp11 items in style :-)


Just pick it up, and read the SETI tapes ;-)


Re: Quantum ATL-7100 DLT Changer in SLC

2022-04-09 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
I have this strong desire to pick this up and install TK70 tape units. 
Finally I can back up my pdp11 items in style :-)


C

On 4/8/2022 11:58 PM, Tim Riker via cctalk wrote:
I have a Quantum ATL-7100 100 tape DLT changer. Last I checked it worked 
fine. It's almost as big as a fridge. I have around 100 tapes for it, 
not all the same density. It uses fast/wide scsi-3 differential for the 
drives. I think I have 2 working drives in the cabinet plus one or 2 
separate external drives.


I think my drives are DLT-7000 or similar which gives a total capacity 
of 7TB.


Upgraded with SDLT 220 drives and tapes the chassis would have a 
capacity of 22TB.


Anyone interested in picking this up in South Jordan Utah? (outside Salt 
Lake City).


The only issues I know about it, is the tape loading pivoting door is 
not quite rotating correctly, and I replaced one of the AT power 
supplies with a unit that is NOT autoswitching. So if you want to run 
the unit on 220V instead of 110, you will need to change the chassis and 
the replaced internal power supply.


It's really fun to load it up with tapes, then tell it to auto-shuffle 
them. I have the door hot wired so you can open the door while it's 
operating. Easy to restore the switch if you don't want to.


Photos here:

https://rikers.org/gallery/hardware-atl7100

Interested, please email directly, I don't check the list very often.

Tim



Quantum ATL-7100 DLT Changer in SLC

2022-04-08 Thread Tim Riker via cctalk
I have a Quantum ATL-7100 100 tape DLT changer. Last I checked it worked 
fine. It's almost as big as a fridge. I have around 100 tapes for it, 
not all the same density. It uses fast/wide scsi-3 differential for the 
drives. I think I have 2 working drives in the cabinet plus one or 2 
separate external drives.


I think my drives are DLT-7000 or similar which gives a total capacity 
of 7TB.


Upgraded with SDLT 220 drives and tapes the chassis would have a 
capacity of 22TB.


Anyone interested in picking this up in South Jordan Utah? (outside Salt 
Lake City).


The only issues I know about it, is the tape loading pivoting door is 
not quite rotating correctly, and I replaced one of the AT power 
supplies with a unit that is NOT autoswitching. So if you want to run 
the unit on 220V instead of 110, you will need to change the chassis and 
the replaced internal power supply.


It's really fun to load it up with tapes, then tell it to auto-shuffle 
them. I have the door hot wired so you can open the door while it's 
operating. Easy to restore the switch if you don't want to.


Photos here:

https://rikers.org/gallery/hardware-atl7100

Interested, please email directly, I don't check the list very often.

Tim