Re: Retro Reproduction 2

2015-10-25 Thread rod
Hello Noel Yes Console and if my memory serves me well (which it usually doesn't) programmers console. Who's doing the PDP-8 switches? Rod On 25/10/15 22:33, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Rod Smallwood > Just refresh my memory. C+K are the what I would call PDP8 type?

Re: Retro Reproduction 2

2015-10-25 Thread rod
Hi Noel That sounds good. Just refresh my memory. C+K are the what I would call PDP8 type? I think the PDP-8 type are a basic slide switch with a U shaped bracket to hold the pivot pins on the lever. One type is is a biased type and the other just a change over. So far everything is

Re: Retro Reproduction 2

2015-10-25 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Rod Smallwood > I'm in the drawing stage for 11/45 11/55 11/70 (common blank size) I think the 11/40 uses that same blank, too (with less holes than the other ones, as it doesn't have the two rotary switches); dunno about the location of the power switch, someone who has an 11/40

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-24 Thread geneb
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Jon Elson wrote: On 10/23/2015 04:32 PM, geneb wrote: On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Jon Elson wrote: I sell some hardware for motion control based on this software, and have sold over 300 controller-interfaces. A popular one seems to be using MachineKit on a Beagle Bone

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/24/2015 08:01 PM, geneb wrote: I wouldn't mind finding step-by-step instructions on how to refit a 2000 model year MaxNC 10 open loop mill. The controller it has now is parallel port based and the control software is DOS only. Well, this is a stepper-driven machine? Are the stepper

Re: Retro Reproduction 2

2015-10-24 Thread rod
Hello Tony Well like a lot of things its not always simple. Lets deal with the GT40 first. Well I know why I picked the car as opposed to the display. In the late 1960's I did what was called a sandwich course. Part of the time at work and part at college. I worked in the test lab of

Re: Retro Reproduction 2

2015-10-24 Thread rod
Er.. Wow! Ok the process mimics the original production system. I draw the panel using Inkscape because it runs on windows and Linux, produces .svg (scalable vector graphics) files and its free!! As sources I use photographs, Scans (The best way because there are no lens errors) and

RE: Retro Reproduction 2

2015-10-24 Thread tony duell
> The UK is full of small companies making and repairing all kinds of past > products. > > For example the MGB GT (a much loved British sports car). The factory > stopped making them in the early 1980's > However a few guys bought the press tools and have been turning out two > or three body

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread ben
On 10/23/2015 11:33 AM, rod wrote: Hi Noel Your ps comments are very perceptive. I have no doubt that people out there are gathering TTL even as we speak. Hides the 74LSxx and solder ... pulls out some knitting. If they still had edge connectors, 74LS382's and the old DOS pcb

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread rod
Hi Noel Your ps comments are very perceptive. I have no doubt that people out there are gathering TTL even as we speak. The one I always call to mind is the guys who built themselves flight simulators out of genuine parts. I've seen replica cars of all kinds. Boats yes Steam

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Rod Smallwood > perhaps we can pool our knowledge and and allocate getting different > parts sourced/made to different people. Makes sense to me. > 2. Lever keys (pdp8 type and PDP11 type ) For the PDP-11, there are three kinds of plastic toggle/actuator: one like the

Re: Retro Reproduction 2

2015-10-23 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 10/23/2015 6:43 PM, Mike Ross wrote: > 1. A replacement perspex for a pdp-12; damaged in shipping :-( If you mean the plexiglass for the console, I might be able to help with that. I thought at one point I was going to get an entire PDP-12 from U. Wisconsin Comm. Arts, but when I showed up

Re: Retro Reproduction 2

2015-10-23 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 10/23/2015 10:37 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > On 10/23/2015 6:43 PM, Mike Ross wrote: > >> 1. A replacement perspex for a pdp-12; damaged in shipping :-( > > If you mean the plexiglass for the console, I might be able to help with > that. I thought at one point I was going to get an entire PDP-12

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jay West wrote: > Ethan wrote... >> Do the DG handles have the same problems as DEC switch handles? >> (fragile pivots that break off) > > Ethan - Yes. They have the exact same "pins" on each side of the plastic that > break off pretty

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Christian Kennedy
On 10/23/15 13:05, Jay West wrote: > Yeah, I couldn't remember what system it was... but when I first took > apart a DG front panel and looked at the plastic switch covers, I > *KNOW* I remember that I had worked on some other brand of machine > that had identical (or at least very close)

RE: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Jay West
Vince wrote... - In addition, the pivot heads seem to have been spread with some sort of heat process, so it is virtually impossible to remove the handle without breaking off the pivots. - I should point out... so far I've had about six or eight switch covers on various eclipse

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Jay West: Friday, October 23, 2015 1:14 PM Vince wrote... - In addition, the pivot heads seem to have been spread with some sort of heat process, so it is virtually impossible to remove the handle without breaking off the pivots. - I should point out... so far I've had about

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Jay West wrote: > I should also add if people are talking about reproducing DEC switch > handles (the plastic covers)... I would love to get spares for my DG gear so > whatever process works for the dec ones may be helpful there. Do the

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Ethan Dicks: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:27 PM On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Jay West wrote: I should also add if people are talking about reproducing DEC switch handles (the plastic covers)... I would love to get spares for my DG gear so whatever process

RE: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Jay West
Ethan wrote... Looking at your picture, I'd say that is not identical to any DEC switch handle I know of. Yeah, I couldn't remember what system it was... but when I first took apart a DG front panel and looked at the plastic switch covers, I *KNOW* I remember that I had worked on

RE: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Dave Wade
age- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ethan > Dicks > Sent: 23 October 2015 20:27 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Retro Reproduction. > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Jay

RE: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Jay West
Ben wrote... Bring in the Gorillas. :) Other than bootstrapping, switches tend to sit idle. Guess it's all what you're doing. I use the front panels *A LOT* on all my machines. A completely missing switchcover, or a broken switch, would be far more than just an inconvenience to me at

RE: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Jay West
Ethan wrote... > Do the DG handles have the same problems as DEC switch handles? > (fragile pivots that break off) To which Christian replied... Only the 16-bit Eclipse family, and they're really not that fragile -- you sort of have to work to break them. Ethan - Yes. They have the

RE: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Jay West
I should also add if people are talking about reproducing DEC switch handles (the plastic covers)... I would love to get spares for my DG gear so whatever process works for the dec ones may be helpful there. J

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Christian Kennedy
On 10/23/15 12:27, Ethan Dicks wrote: > Do the DG handles have the same problems as DEC switch handles? > (fragile pivots that break off) Only the 16-bit Eclipse family, and they're really not that fragile -- you sort of have to work to break them. -- Christian Kennedy, Ph.D.

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread ben
On 10/23/2015 1:29 PM, Christian Kennedy wrote: On 10/23/15 12:27, Ethan Dicks wrote: Do the DG handles have the same problems as DEC switch handles? (fragile pivots that break off) Only the 16-bit Eclipse family, and they're really not that fragile -- you sort of have to work to break

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:42 PM, ben wrote: > Bring in the Gorillas. :) > Other than bootstrapping, switches tend to sit idle. Yeah... For my switchless 11/70 PCB, I'm happy to buy $5 switches, but if I can't find them that cheaply, I'm not worried about a replacement

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Christian Kennedy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/23/15 12:55, Jay West wrote: > I disagree with Christian on one point... those side pins are > *every bit* as fragile as the dec ones. Maybe it's an aging thing? In the space of a decade with S/130s, S/200s, S/230s, C330s and an

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/23/2015 01:57 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:48 PM, ben wrote: ... It does seem mechanical stuff is dieing art. I don't know about that. Yes, there is an open-source project that provides a CNC machine control for mill, lathes, hexapods and robots.

RE: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Jay West
Rod; It's not just the dec folks. I have a DG box that I'd REALLY like to get a new (plexiglass, but thinner and more flexible) panel done for. I'd imagine it's silkscreening And I know of at least one other DG person looking for the same... J

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/23/2015 04:32 PM, geneb wrote: On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Jon Elson wrote: I sell some hardware for motion control based on this software, and have sold over 300 controller-interfaces. A popular one seems to be using MachineKit on a Beagle Bone Black Yes, my latest product is the

Re: Retro Reproduction 2

2015-10-23 Thread steven
Mike said: > 4. IBM metal panel consoles. I have a couple of these - System/370 > models 145 and 155 - which are complete but a bit ropy and rusty and > damaged in parts; see: http://www.corestore.org/370148-1.jpg - They're > just sheet steel painted black with the legend silkscreened (I >

Re: Retro Reproduction 2

2015-10-23 Thread Mike Ross
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:22 AM, rod wrote: > Hi Guys > > Well my missive on reproductions seems to have generated some interest. > There seems to be a lot of will to keep the old systems going and to > reproduce parts for them > and indeed build complete systems

Re: Retro Reproduction.

2015-10-23 Thread geneb
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Jon Elson wrote: On 10/23/2015 01:57 PM, Paul Koning wrote: On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:48 PM, ben wrote: ... It does seem mechanical stuff is dieing art. I don't know about that. Yes, there is an open-source project that provides a CNC machine control