Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

DeAnza College swap in Cupertino happens on the 2nd Sat of the month.

eBay has pretty much killed off anything of value there.


On 4/1/17 10:41 AM, Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote:
> Are there any swap meets / flea markets in the area on weekends anymore?
> 

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Chris Elmquist via cctalk]

Are there any swap meets / flea markets in the area on weekends anymore?

I will be there in a couple weeks with a free Friday and Saturday. With
Friday likely reserved for CHM, I'd track down a swap meet on Saturday
if such things still exist.

Chris NØJCF 


On Friday (03/31/2017 at 09:17PM -0500), Sam O'nella via cctalk wrote:
> I thought the Vintage Computer festival west link might have recommended 
> hotels but I couldn't find anything for you.
> I did a similar trip but needed to be quite a few hours south for my actual 
> destination. I didn't find a very cheap hotel either, and the under $100 one 
> I did find near long Beach was quite underwhelming. The type my wife wouldn't 
> have let us stay at.
> What I did find more useful was a super small rental car for $98 that did 
> give me much more freedom to get around a few sites (and Weird Stuff).  It 
> was highly recommended not to sleep in the car though so best luck.
> I explored airbnb but it seems to mirror closely to hotel prices and a 
> surprisingly large amount want a 2 day stay.
> But CHM is definitely a fun trip. I have a quite large collection for home 
> computing so I wasn't sure how long I'd stay occupied but between the demos 
> and tours and just perusing I definitely could have enjoyed more than the 
> afternoon I spent.
> Best recommendations were ubering or rental car then get a hotel in your 
> price range but don't worry as much about location. Or get one near the train.
> 

-- 
Chris Elmquist

RE: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

I thought the Vintage Computer festival west link might have recommended hotels 
but I couldn't find anything for you.
I did a similar trip but needed to be quite a few hours south for my actual 
destination. I didn't find a very cheap hotel either, and the under $100 one I 
did find near long Beach was quite underwhelming. The type my wife wouldn't 
have let us stay at.
What I did find more useful was a super small rental car for $98 that did give 
me much more freedom to get around a few sites (and Weird Stuff).  It was 
highly recommended not to sleep in the car though so best luck.
I explored airbnb but it seems to mirror closely to hotel prices and a 
surprisingly large amount want a 2 day stay.
But CHM is definitely a fun trip. I have a quite large collection for home 
computing so I wasn't sure how long I'd stay occupied but between the demos and 
tours and just perusing I definitely could have enjoyed more than the afternoon 
I spent.
Best recommendations were ubering or rental car then get a hotel in your price 
range but don't worry as much about location. Or get one near the train.

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 03/31/2017 11:17 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> 
> 
> On 3/30/17 9:29 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> 
>> In the late 70s, on Evelyn in Sunnyvale, near Wolfe, I believe.
> 
> That would be the original Halted location, Evelyn and Wolfe
> 
> Halted moved to roughly laurence and central, then moved to 3051
> Corvin last year.
> 
> The previous building was demolished last week. The entire block is
> gone all the way from central to keifer, including the building that
> was ACE Electronics on Keifer.

That's a shame.  One thing that Sunnyvale and Santa Clara offered was
lots of inexpensive "incubator" space.

I think that soaring prices on industrial rental space was what
eventually forced Dan (Haltek) out of his digs on Linda Vista in MV.

He had another outfit in Santa Clara, "Redwood Electronics", but that
seems to have turned to dust at about the same time.

Things come and go, though.  Where Sun was  is now Google.  Tear-downs
are the thing in older residential Mountain View and Palo Alto.

I remember when nobody but hippies and horse people lived in Los Altos
Hills on  gravel-paved roads.


--Chuck

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

On 3/30/17 9:29 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

> In the late 70s, on Evelyn in Sunnyvale, near Wolfe, I believe.

That would be the original Halted location, Evelyn and Wolfe

Halted moved to roughly laurence and central, then moved to 3051 Corvin
last year.

The previous building was demolished last week. The entire block is gone
all the way from central to keifer, including the building that was ACE 
Electronics
on Keifer.

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Eric Smith via cctalk]

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Rich Alderson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> and what there are are not
> easily within walking distance of good food (In 'n' Out does not qualify).
>

Them's fightin' words!

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Cameron Kaiser via cctalk]

> Remember Haltek in Mountain View?  (wasn't it at the dead end of Linda
> Vista?  I bought my Tek 465 there.)

You don't mean Halted Electronics, do you? That should still be around.

I was passing through Sunnyvale on my way back south and picked up some
useful doodads at Weird Stuff, though it took an hour to find them. I'm not
sure if that was a good use of my time. ;)

-- 
 personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
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-- A service of the Department of the Redundancy Department service. --

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 03/30/2017 08:56 PM, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote:

> Corporate Systems Center, and Martin, still exist, as Digital
> Loggers, on Walsh Av. I still work there, 20+ years...

I still have the manuals and software for his Fastcache and Fastecache
32 SCSI controllers.  Got rid of the cards themselves a long time ago
when better cards became available and 30-pin SIMMs were no longer popular.

I think I still have a system around here with an ESDI drive that I got
from him.  There was another lesser-known outfit (the name escapes me)
in Sunnyvale that offered cut-rate deals on big hard drives.

And of course,  the business retail outfits, Inmac with its trademark
blue cables.   TI had a retail store in Stanford Shopping Center.

And if you couldn't find a part you needed, a few beers at the Walker's
Wagon Wheel in Mountain View after work would turn up someone who could
filch what you needed from their stock at work.

Remember Haltek in Mountain View?  (wasn't it at the dead end of Linda
Vista?  I bought my Tek 465 there.)

What was the name of the warehouse operation in Palo Alto that just had
stacks of stuff with no particular organization?  I bought a lot of
cable there.

I remember the smell of tomato sauce that pervaded Sunnyvale in the
summertime and all of the seasonal cannery workers. The cherry blossoms
that would make piles in the streets come springtime. Santa Clara may
have had Italian prunes, but Sunnyvale had cherry orchards.

Remember Chez Yvonne in Mountain View on El Camino with its geriatric
waitresses that would call you Shveetie and Yvonne herself holding court?

When a bunch of us got Durango started on 10101 Bubb Road in Cupertino,
there were canneries in back, just across the railroad tracks in Monte
Vista.   Some kids had the building space across the road trying to get
a little outfit called "Apple" started.   Wonder how that worked out...

After being gone for almost 30 years, I'd probably get lost now.  And,
as Thomas Wolfe said, "You can't go home again."

--Chuck

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

I recall when John Fry opened his store, the big seller was Canfield's
Diet Chocolate Fudge Soda.   I thought it was dreadful, but people
bought it by the caselot.  Fry's had a lot of Everex PC boards, much of
which was probably returns.   And you could buy a VME system there also.

I still have various connectors and whatnot in the little poly bags with
the red and white Fry's labels on them.

I bought my turntable and soldering iron tips at Sunnyvale Electronics.
Points for those who can tell me where that was.

I suspect that if I returned for a visit after nearly 30 years, I'd get
lost.


. . . and it would be very depressing.

It's been more than three decades since the staffing at Fry's went bad.

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 03/30/2017 08:31 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:

> Phelen Ave in San Jose, which was before the larger place on Sycamore
> in Milpitas.

In the late 70s, on Evelyn in Sunnyvale, near Wolfe, I believe.   I
could check my old records.

I recall when John Fry opened his store, the big seller was Canfield's
Diet Chocolate Fudge Soda.   I thought it was dreadful, but people
bought it by the caselot.  Fry's had a lot of Everex PC boards, much of
which was probably returns.   And you could buy a VME system there also.

I still have various connectors and whatnot in the little poly bags with
the red and white Fry's labels on them.

I bought my turntable and soldering iron tips at Sunnyvale Electronics.
Points for those who can tell me where that was.

I suspect that if I returned for a visit after nearly 30 years, I'd get
lost.

--Chuck

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[George Rachor via cctalk]

I have that book!

George Rachor

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 8:56 PM, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 3/30/2017 8:42 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2017, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
>>> Across from the side of the road that original Frys was on was a TOGO's 
>>> that filled the parking lot and 2 or three nicely stocked junk stores, 
>>> which changed frequently.  The guys who did the Hard Disk drive guide book 
>>> had their original store in there and lots of cheap and hard to find 
>>> product.
>> 
>> Corporate Systems Center  Martin Bodo?  "The Hard Drive Bible"
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Corporate Systems Center, and Martin, still exist, as Digital Loggers, on 
> Walsh Av. I still work there, 20+ years...
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> -- 
> Vintage computers and electronics
> www.dvq.com
> www.tekmuseum.com
> www.decmuseum.org
> 

RE: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Rich Alderson via cctalk]

From: Rick Bensene
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:18 PM

> What I'm asking for is help/recommendations in terms of a good hotel to
> stay at that is relatively close to the museum.  I don't want to be in a
> luxury hotel, nor do I want to be in a dive.  I'd also like to be in a
> place that has a restaurant relatively close by (preferably within
> walking distance) that I could get some decent meals (breakfast/dinner)
> while I'm there.

There aren't a lot of hotels in Mountain View, and what there are are not
easily within walking distance of good food (In 'n' Out does not qualify).
Most are on El Camino Real.  Looking at one which I have used (Hilton
Garden Inn) for relative pricing, it's not available for your dates and
all the others I would point you towards are in the $250-$400/night range.
This is the heart of Silicon Valley, after all, and lots of business travel
ends up in these places.

You're at the height of the tourist season, too.  The place I stayed last
weekend in Milpitas for $130/night is $260 for your travel dates.

Sorry for not being terribly helpful.

Rich

Rich Alderson
Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer
Living Computers: Museum + Labs
2245 1st Avenue S
Seattle, WA 98134

mailto:ri...@livingcomputers.org

http://www.LivingComputers.org/

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk]

On 3/30/2017 8:42 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
Across from the side of the road that original Frys was on was a 
TOGO's that filled the parking lot and 2 or three nicely stocked junk 
stores, which changed frequently.  The guys who did the Hard Disk 
drive guide book had their original store in there and lots of cheap 
and hard to find product.


Corporate Systems Center  Martin Bodo?  "The Hard Drive Bible"



Corporate Systems Center, and Martin, still exist, as Digital Loggers, 
on Walsh Av. I still work there, 20+ years...


Bob


--
Vintage computers and electronics
www.dvq.com
www.tekmuseum.com
www.decmuseum.org

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
Across from the side of the road that original Frys was on was a TOGO's that 
filled the parking lot and 2 or three nicely stocked junk stores, which 
changed frequently.  The guys who did the Hard Disk drive guide book had 
their original store in there and lots of cheap and hard to find product.


Corporate Systems Center  Martin Bodo?  "The Hard Drive Bible"

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

On 3/30/17 8:35 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
>The guys who did the Hard Disk drive guide book had their
>> original store in there

Corporate Systems Center
their main office was on Maude

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[jim stephens via cctalk]

On 3/30/2017 8:15 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

Bonus points for those who remember their original original location.

--Chuck

General area of lots of good junking back in the day was here.  I think 
Halted is the last one of
the originals to leave.  They moved to a place on Ryder and that was 
where they were for a very

long time.  of course they are up off Corvin now.

https://goo.gl/maps/EYAbqVjoC3B2

Thanks
jim

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[jim stephens via cctalk]

On 3/30/2017 8:15 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

Bonus points for those who remember their original original location.

--Chuck


Halted?  We drove by there, could get address off google.

Weird Stuff used to be across from the original Frys, then Frys move 
across the street with the Giant IC building.  Again, can drive there, 
would have to do it on google to get the address.


Extra points if you remember the IC supplies in the original Frys next 
to the M's and cans of Pringles.  Before the brothers decided if they 
were an electronics store or a stereo store and had fights.


Across from the side of the road that original Frys was on was a TOGO's 
that filled the parking lot and 2 or three nicely stocked junk stores, 
which changed frequently.  The guys who did the Hard Disk drive guide 
book had their original store in there and lots of cheap and hard to 
find product.


thanks
Jim

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

On 3/30/17 8:15 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> On 03/30/2017 08:04 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
>> As to recommendations, I like the Country Inn & Suites by Carlson in 
>> Sunnyvale, which is at Ca 237 and Caribbean.  If you run around by
>> the bay is Weird Stuff, and it is about 2 or so miles from the CHM.
>> At 237 Caribbean becomes Lawrence which is a handy road since you can
>> easily get to Halted for another stop.  Their new spot is quite a bit
>> better stocked than the original location.
> 
> 
> Bonus points for those who remember their original original location.
> 
> --Chuck
> 

Phelen Ave in San Jose, which was before the larger place on Sycamore in 
Milpitas.

Richard Anderson had several places after he, Mac McDougal and the Schutz's 
started WSW.
The Weird Stuff name and logo came from Richard's brother, who was in the
advertising business.

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 03/30/2017 08:04 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
> As to recommendations, I like the Country Inn & Suites by Carlson in 
> Sunnyvale, which is at Ca 237 and Caribbean.  If you run around by
> the bay is Weird Stuff, and it is about 2 or so miles from the CHM.
> At 237 Caribbean becomes Lawrence which is a handy road since you can
> easily get to Halted for another stop.  Their new spot is quite a bit
> better stocked than the original location.


Bonus points for those who remember their original original location.

--Chuck

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[jim stephens via cctalk]

On 3/30/2017 6:58 PM, CuriousMarc via cctalk wrote:

Beware, the Museum is closed Mondays and Tuesdays. Live demos of the IBM 1401 
are on Wednesdays 3 pm and Saturdays 11 am. The PDP-1 is demoed more rarely, on 
some Saturdays in the afternoon. More details here:
http://www.computerhistory.org/hours/

Marc,
I'll also look you up if we are there mid week.

As to recommendations, I like the Country Inn & Suites by Carlson in 
Sunnyvale, which is at Ca 237 and Caribbean.  If you run around by the 
bay is Weird Stuff, and it is about 2 or so miles from the CHM.  At 237 
Caribbean becomes Lawrence which is a handy road since you can easily 
get to Halted for another stop.  Their new spot is quite a bit better 
stocked than the original location.


I'm not sure Fry's is worth a stop, unless you don't have one and want 
to see what they have.


Country Inn
1300 Chesapeake Terrace, Sunnyvale, CA 94089

Charles might chime in about the place he stayed while here for VCF if 
he sees this, that hotel seemed good, though I don't recall where it was.


I really like Tomatina's for Italian, though it's a drive.  We stumbled 
across it and were highly impressed with the food.

3127 Mission College Blvd, Santa Clara, CA 95054

I'm in Southern, Ca, and travel up there a time or two a year, FWIW.
Thanks
Jim

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[CuriousMarc via cctalk]

I'd look at hotels on El Camino in Mountain View or Palo Alto, maybe near San 
Antonio road. There are a whole bunch of smaller hotels along there. Warning: 
this is California, Silicon Valley and more specifically Google land, so hotels 
tend to be full and rather expensive for what they are, as you'd expect. Also 
plenty of restaurants along El Camino, and in Mountain View on Castro street. 
Booking.com is your friend. The food options in the museum are limited, but 
just across the street there are more choices ranging from Starbucks to fancy 
South American, all good.

Beware, the Museum is closed Mondays and Tuesdays. Live demos of the IBM 1401 
are on Wednesdays 3 pm and Saturdays 11 am. The PDP-1 is demoed more rarely, on 
some Saturdays in the afternoon. More details here:
http://www.computerhistory.org/hours/

Send me an email when you are around. I usually am at the museum on Wednesdays 
working on the 1401 with the restoration team before the official demo. I'd 
love to give you a special tour of the exhibit (and discuss old computers and 
calculators!).

Marc

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 3:19 PM, Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, all,
>> 
>> In mid-June, I am planning a trip to Mountain View for two days to visit the 
>> Computer History Museum.
>> 
>> I plan on flying out of Portland early AM on June 14, checking into hotel, 
>> then heading straight to the museum for the day.
>> I will go back to the hotel for the evening, and return to the museum on the 
>> 15th, and stay into early afternoon, and then check out of the hotel and 
>> head to the airport to return home.
>> 
>> I haven't been to CHM before, and am looking forward to spending an extended 
>> period of time there.
>> 
>> What I'm asking for is help/recommendations in terms of a good hotel to stay 
>> at that is relatively close to the museum.  I don't want to be in a luxury 
>> hotel, nor do I want to be in a dive.
>> I'd also like to be in a place that has a restaurant relatively close by 
>> (preferably within walking distance) that I could get some decent meals 
>> (breakfast/dinner) while I'm there.
>> 
>> Unless this is a topic of general interest to the group, it'd probably be 
>> best to reply to me directly rather than post responses to the list.
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> -Rick
>> --
>> Rick Bensene
>> The Old Calculator Museum
>> http://oldcalculatormuseum.com
> 
> 
> I'd also be interested in any recommendations, so might as well list-post, 
> it'll be of value to a couple of us. 
> 
> Last I was there was this time of year in 2014 and I really should get back 
> (spent the entire day there and never saw it all). Having IHG points to use, 
> I found a Holiday Inn Express in Belmont that didn't charge an arm and a leg 
> (14 miles from CHM) that was clean and comfortable and I found it an easy 
> walk to several restaurants. One bit of advice, some of the live exhibits, 
> like the 1401 demo, only run on certain days, so check the CHM calendar in 
> advance if there's something you absolutely want to see live. -Cory
> 

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Tony Aiuto via cctalk]

You want the Hampton Inn.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hampton+Inn+%26+Suites+Mountain+View/@37.3950988,-122.0791475,15.53z/data=!4m8!1m2!2m1!1shotels+near+Mountain+View,+CA!3m4!1s0x0:0xc7d978e934c5a2ca!8m2!3d37.3988499!4d-122.0754889

It is walking distance to the light rail station and Castro street.
Mountain View is pretty much a cultural wasteland. If you don't have a car,
the only walkable places to eat are off Castro. You could even walk to the
CHM - it might even be quicker than car given MTV traffic.
The rail from SF airport is surprisingly slow. San Jose may be a better
choice.


On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 6:19 PM, Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
>
> On Mar 30, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Hello, all,
> >
> > In mid-June, I am planning a trip to Mountain View for two days to visit
> the Computer History Museum.
> >
> > I plan on flying out of Portland early AM on June 14, checking into
> hotel, then heading straight to the museum for the day.
> > I will go back to the hotel for the evening, and return to the museum on
> the 15th, and stay into early afternoon, and then check out of the hotel
> and head to the airport to return home.
> >
> > I haven't been to CHM before, and am looking forward to spending an
> extended period of time there.
> >
> > What I'm asking for is help/recommendations in terms of a good hotel to
> stay at that is relatively close to the museum.  I don't want to be in a
> luxury hotel, nor do I want to be in a dive.
> > I'd also like to be in a place that has a restaurant relatively close by
> (preferably within walking distance) that I could get some decent meals
> (breakfast/dinner) while I'm there.
> >
> > Unless this is a topic of general interest to the group, it'd probably
> be best to reply to me directly rather than post responses to the list.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > -Rick
> > --
> > Rick Bensene
> > The Old Calculator Museum
> > http://oldcalculatormuseum.com
> >
>
>
> I'd also be interested in any recommendations, so might as well list-post,
> it'll be of value to a couple of us.
>
> Last I was there was this time of year in 2014 and I really should get
> back (spent the entire day there and never saw it all). Having IHG points
> to use, I found a Holiday Inn Express in Belmont that didn't charge an arm
> and a leg (14 miles from CHM) that was clean and comfortable and I found it
> an easy walk to several restaurants. One bit of advice, some of the live
> exhibits, like the 1401 demo, only run on certain days, so check the CHM
> calendar in advance if there's something you absolutely want to see live.
> -Cory
>
>

Re: Trip to CHM - Hotel/Restaurant Advice

[Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk]

On Mar 30, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote:

> Hello, all,
> 
> In mid-June, I am planning a trip to Mountain View for two days to visit the 
> Computer History Museum.
> 
> I plan on flying out of Portland early AM on June 14, checking into hotel, 
> then heading straight to the museum for the day.
> I will go back to the hotel for the evening, and return to the museum on the 
> 15th, and stay into early afternoon, and then check out of the hotel and head 
> to the airport to return home.
> 
> I haven't been to CHM before, and am looking forward to spending an extended 
> period of time there.
> 
> What I'm asking for is help/recommendations in terms of a good hotel to stay 
> at that is relatively close to the museum.  I don't want to be in a luxury 
> hotel, nor do I want to be in a dive.
> I'd also like to be in a place that has a restaurant relatively close by 
> (preferably within walking distance) that I could get some decent meals 
> (breakfast/dinner) while I'm there.
> 
> Unless this is a topic of general interest to the group, it'd probably be 
> best to reply to me directly rather than post responses to the list.
> 
> Many thanks,
> -Rick
> --
> Rick Bensene
> The Old Calculator Museum
> http://oldcalculatormuseum.com
> 


I'd also be interested in any recommendations, so might as well list-post, 
it'll be of value to a couple of us. 

Last I was there was this time of year in 2014 and I really should get back 
(spent the entire day there and never saw it all). Having IHG points to use, I 
found a Holiday Inn Express in Belmont that didn't charge an arm and a leg (14 
miles from CHM) that was clean and comfortable and I found it an easy walk to 
several restaurants. One bit of advice, some of the live exhibits, like the 
1401 demo, only run on certain days, so check the CHM calendar in advance if 
there's something you absolutely want to see live. -Cory