Re: Seeking correct EuroCard dimensions

2017-07-29 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk

On 2017-07-29 01:16, David Griffith via cctalk wrote:


I'm trying to verify the correct dimensions for a 160mm x 100mm
EuroCard. I figured this would be simple: 160 millimeters by 100
millimeters.  But when I submitted a template to the Kicad project at
https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-library/pull/1441.


I was told that I need to trim the board back by .15mm, citing this
document:
https://www.elma.com/-/media/general-web-content-files/resources/pdfs/us-corporate-dimensions-of-pcbs-d.ashx?la=en=13B1EAF4FF743087F8B7E87BB10A1D20C44C40BD


This doesn't seem to make sense to me.  I always thought that the
bearing surfaces on the card cage would be spaced slightly more than the
card width.  What's going on here?  What am I missing?


The VMEbus spec says the same, tolerance is [+ 0, - 0.3mm] so take the 
.15mm off and you're good ;-)


Actually look at the connectors & grid, so you need to take of .075mm of 
each edge, so the connector area stays the same ...




Re: Seeking correct EuroCard dimensions

2017-07-28 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 5:16 PM, David Griffith via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
> I'm trying to verify the correct dimensions for a 160mm x 100mm EuroCard.
> I figured this would be simple: 160 millimeters by 100 millimeters.  But
> when I submitted a template to the Kicad project at
> https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-library/pull/1441.
>
>
> I was told that I need to trim the board back by .15mm, citing this
> document: https://www.elma.com/-/media/general-web-content-files/resou
> rces/pdfs/us-corporate-dimensions-of-pcbs-d.ashx?la=en=
> 13B1EAF4FF743087F8B7E87BB10A1D20C44C40BD
>
> This doesn't seem to make sense to me.  I always thought that the bearing
> surfaces on the card cage would be spaced slightly more than the card
> width.  What's going on here?  What am I missing?


I think what they're saying is that the board size specs have a tolerance
of +0.0/-0.3mm, so you should spec 0.15mm less than nominal to be right in
the middle of the tolerance range, so that any positive tolerance variation
from manufacturing should still be within the specification.

I'm in the process of designing some 220x100 mm Eurocards myself, and
hadn't previously given the tolerance limit of +0.0mm any consideration. I
think the advice to trim 0.15mm is good.

Eric


Seeking correct EuroCard dimensions

2017-07-28 Thread David Griffith via cctalk


I'm trying to verify the correct dimensions for a 160mm x 100mm EuroCard. 
I figured this would be simple: 160 millimeters by 100 millimeters.  But 
when I submitted a template to the Kicad project at 
https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-library/pull/1441.



I was told that I need to trim the board back by .15mm, citing this 
document: 
https://www.elma.com/-/media/general-web-content-files/resources/pdfs/us-corporate-dimensions-of-pcbs-d.ashx?la=en=13B1EAF4FF743087F8B7E87BB10A1D20C44C40BD


This doesn't seem to make sense to me.  I always thought that the bearing 
surfaces on the card cage would be spaced slightly more than the card 
width.  What's going on here?  What am I missing?



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