Re: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-16 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:20 AM, tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: [My 11/730] Sorry to hear that it's been decabled. Take your time to route those cables through the bottom pan properly, Yes, it's going to be a lot of work to get it back together. I think I am going to start

Re: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 15, 2015, at 09:02, Guy Sotomayor g...@shiresoft.com wrote: I'm not specifically familiar with the 11/730, but what's wrong with just cabling up an expansion box the old fashioned way using BC11A cable? Without losing anything else in the already-full rack, I'd need to route that

Re: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread Paul Anderson
Hi Mark, Do you just need a 4 or 9 slot backplane? I Don't see the need for a repeater unless I'm missing something. Paul On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Mark J. Blair n...@nf6x.net wrote: Has anybody ever made a UNIBUS repeater with a high speed serial link between the bus segments yet?

Re: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 15, 2015, at 09:06, Paul Anderson used...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark, Do you just need a 4 or 9 slot backplane? I Don't see the need for a repeater unless I'm missing something. An expansion without a reapeater would work just fine electrically. I'm curious about whether some

Re: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread Paul Anderson
BC11-A is flat, guessing 4 inches wide, but you man make nice 90 degree or what ever angle you need easily. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Mark J. Blair n...@nf6x.net wrote: On Jun 15, 2015, at 09:02, Guy Sotomayor g...@shiresoft.com wrote: I'm not specifically familiar with the

RE: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread tony duell
[11/730] In mine, an RL02 drive is the third unit of the rack containing the CPU cabinet, and the TU80 tape drive is too tall As I understand it, there were intitially 2 'packaged' systems. One had the CPU with an RL02 under it for the OS disk and an RL02 on top for the user disk. The

RE: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread tony duell
From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of Mark J. Blair [n...@nf6x.net] Sent: 16 June 2015 06:06 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Serial UNIBUS Repeater? [11/730] for that slot (though one

Re: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 15, 2015, at 21:20, tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: Mine did start out as the 'packaged' system in the half-rack, and I intend to keep it in that cabinet. Obviously I will keep the CPU and R80, but I am not sure if the tape drive is the most useful third unit at this

RE: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread tony duell
[My 11/730] Sorry to hear that it's been decabled. Take your time to route those cables through the bottom pan properly, Yes, it's going to be a lot of work to get it back together. I think I am going to start (when I have got the machine room straightened out, etc) with the 2 parts of

RE: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread tony duell
That's a much better description of the 730's mechanical peculiarities than I came up with. I was more concerned with cable management between the two racks, since I have them in a tiny room where I need to roll them around to get access to the back (it's literally a tiny bedroom in a

Re: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:11 , tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: I'm not specifically familiar with the 11/730, but what's wrong with just cabling up an expansion box the old fashioned way using BC11A cable? Nothing electtically... The problem is that the 11/730 mouting box

Re: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread Eric Smith
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:11 AM, tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: Totally useless coincidence that I noticed while doing a cryptic crossword : 'ethernet' is an anagram of 'three ten', and the original ethernet speeds were three and then ten megabits/second. For bonus points,

Re: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:41 , tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: My 11/730 was totally decabled to get it to me. I think I have most of the original cables, and most of the metalwork. I've read the descriptions in the hardware manual on bitsavers and I am not looking forward to

Re: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 15, 2015, at 21:55, tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: [11/730] for that slot (though one of the later front-loaders would probably fit). If you don't need an RL02 drive, then i That's what they did. There was a third (later) packaged system with the CPU, an R80

Re: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread Mike Ross
Strobe Data make something like half of what you need: http://www.strobedata.com/home/unibusfw.html Unfortunately IIRC it's an 'if you have to ask the price you can't afford it' kind of deal... Mike On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Mark J. Blair n...@nf6x.net wrote: Has anybody ever made a

Re: Serial UNIBUS Repeater?

2015-06-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jun 15, 2015, at 16:26 , Mike Ross tmfdm...@gmail.com wrote: Strobe Data make something like half of what you need: http://www.strobedata.com/home/unibusfw.html Unfortunately IIRC it's an 'if you have to ask the price you can't afford it' kind of deal... Interesting! Thanks for