Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
While the disk is copying, s/he/it can also type in whatever metadata is on the labels On Sun, 5 May 2019, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: How much time will it take for s/he/it to learn how to CORRECTLY transcribe a label? I gave up and just take a picture of any media I'm recovering, since the label itself has provenance value. For example it is important to know if the label is original or a hand-written copy. . . . and, I certainly would not "send them off for somebody else to do", without making those records of what I was sending. Since that needs to be done, anyway, it seems to ME to be more work to send out 3-4 dozen, than to do them in-house.
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
On 5/5/19 9:40 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > While the disk is copying, s/he/it can also type in whatever metadata is on > the labels How much time will it take for s/he/it to learn how to CORRECTLY transcribe a label? I gave up and just take a picture of any media I'm recovering, since the label itself has provenance value. For example it is important to know if the label is original or a hand-written copy.
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
On Sun, May 5, 2019, 10:41 AM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. > > On Sat, 4 May 2019, J. Peterson via cctalk wrote: > > I'm trying to avoid the actual task of loading the CD, waiting for the > > computer to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file, load the > next > > CD, etc. > > I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that > 3-4 > > dozen times, and send the disks backs with a thumb drive containing all > the > > ISO files. > > 3-4 dozen??!? > That does not sound amenable to find a service to send them to! > > That sounds like "hire the neighbor's kid". > College kids will do anything for minimum wage. > While the disk is copying, s/he/it can also type in whatever metadata is > on the labels into a spreadsheet program for making a database. > In the past, when I needed to read 300 floppies, I wrote a script to read to a file. It printed a number and I made a tiny label with that number and put it on the diskette. Old then photograph the interesting ones. The script tossed me into an editor and I transcribed the label. The script also ran tools to try to list the dos or cpm files, saving the results. I had to hit return to start the next one. So I had two piles of diskettes and I'd transfer them one to the other after reading. I'd change them between meetings or when I thought about it. It took weeks to get through the 300, but there was little time that wasn't otherwise wasted devoted to this Warner >
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Sat, 4 May 2019, J. Peterson via cctalk wrote: I'm trying to avoid the actual task of loading the CD, waiting for the computer to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file, load the next CD, etc. I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that 3-4 dozen times, and send the disks backs with a thumb drive containing all the ISO files. 3-4 dozen??!? That does not sound amenable to find a service to send them to! That sounds like "hire the neighbor's kid". College kids will do anything for minimum wage. While the disk is copying, s/he/it can also type in whatever metadata is on the labels into a spreadsheet program for making a database.
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 11:30:49AM +0100, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: > Paul, > > I assumed you wanted some one else to do the work! > I suspect that if these are commercial CDs you will run into issues with > Copyright. > Commercial services that do Photos to CD etc. will generally want to be > assured that you own the copyright of the material they are copying. > If you turn up with a pile of commercial CDs that say "COPYRIGHT xyz > corperation" or are even commercial CDs they may not be happy. This. And if the content is of any importance, I would rather do the job with my own hand and not trust that some folks I had not seen would do it without scratching and perhaps making a copy for themselves. You know, just in case CDs dissapear somewhere in postal transit. And maybe store it in the cloud because cheaper. JP, you did not mentioned the number. "Few dozens", so let's assume 60. This thread lasts for three days and will not stop so soon. The number of CDs to scan per day is about twenty today - and is going to drop. Scanning ten per day, starting on May the 3rd, you would probably be done with it before this thread comes to a halt. Just MHO. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
On 04/05/2019 21:36, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: Paul, VAX CD-ROMS generally are not ISO. ISO implies the ISO9660 file system, but many VAX CD ROMS are in native VMS Files-11 format. Some Windows utilities don't handle these so you need third party software to create an image of these CD's. Generally it has a .iso extension but as the content is not ISO9660 you can't mount it on Windows or Linux. Indeed, and the same is true of IRIX install CDs, which have an EFS filesystem. -- Pete Pete Turnbull
RE: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
Paul, I assumed you wanted some one else to do the work! I suspect that if these are commercial CDs you will run into issues with Copyright. Commercial services that do Photos to CD etc. will generally want to be assured that you own the copyright of the material they are copying. If you turn up with a pile of commercial CDs that say "COPYRIGHT xyz corperation" or are even commercial CDs they may not be happy. I did find one company in the UK who offer this service:- https://www.ripcaster.co.uk/node/1268 who seem to have the ability to do this in bulk with automated machinery... Dave > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of J. Peterson via > cctalk > Sent: 04 May 2019 16:05 > To: Paul Koning ; General Discussion: On-Topic > and Off-Topic Posts ; General Discussion: On-Topic > and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files? > > Hi Paul, > > > So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. > > I'm trying to avoid the actual task of loading the CD, waiting for the computer > to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file, load the next CD, etc. > > I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that > 3-4 dozen times, and send the disks backs with a thumb drive containing all > the ISO files. > > Thanks, > jp > > > > > > On May 4, 2019, at 12:54 AM, J. Peterson via cctalk > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files > > (old software, backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable > > rate to have somebody read each of these in, convert them to .ISO > > files or some other reasonable format, and either make them > > downloadable or put them on a thumb drive. > > > > > > Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services > > for converting audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that > > specifically handles data CD-ROMs. > > > > > > Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't > > often check this list. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > jp > > > >I thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect all > >you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix systems > >that's trivial, just use the "dd" command to copy /dev/whatever to > >myfile.iso. > > > > paul
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
Hi Paul, > So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. I'm trying to avoid the actual task of loading the CD, waiting for the computer to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file, load the next CD, etc. I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that 3-4 dozen times, and send the disks backs with a thumb drive containing all the ISO files. Thanks, jp > On May 4, 2019, at 12:54 AM, J. Peterson via cctalk wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files (old software, backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable rate to have somebody read each of these in, convert them to .ISO files or some other reasonable format, and either make them downloadable or put them on a thumb drive. > > Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services for converting audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that specifically handles data CD-ROMs. > > Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't often check this list. > > Thanks, > jp I thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix systems that's trivial, just use the "dd" command to copy /dev/whatever to myfile.iso. paul
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
Hi Paul, > So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. I'm trying to avoid the actual task of loading the CD, waiting for the computer to read all the bits, eject the CD, rename the file, load the next CD, etc. I want to send a stack of disks someplace, have somebody else do that 3-4 dozen times, and send the disks backs with a thumb drive containing all the ISO files. Thanks, jp > On May 4, 2019, at 12:54 AM, J. Peterson via cctalk wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files (old software, backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable rate to have somebody read each of these in, convert them to .ISO files or some other reasonable format, and either make them downloadable or put them on a thumb drive. > > Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services for converting audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that specifically handles data CD-ROMs. > > Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't often check this list. > > Thanks, > jp I thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix systems that's trivial, just use the "dd" command to copy /dev/whatever to myfile.iso. paul
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
On 04/05/2019 21:36, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: Paul, VAX CD-ROMS generally are not ISO. ISO implies the ISO9660 file system, but many VAX CD ROMS are in native VMS Files-11 format. Some Windows utilities don't handle these so you need third party software to create an image of these CD's. Generally it has a .iso extension but as the content is not ISO9660 you can't mount it on Windows or Linux. There a couple of utilities that will convert arbitrary files to image files. I tend to use CD Burner XP https://cdburnerxp.se/en/download but you need to click "More download options" and use the "without install core" versions Dave VMS CDs are indeed in ODS-2 format. Windows certainly won't mount them but many of the imaging utilities I used to use under windows would happily produce a valid image that could then be burnt to CD-R and used in a VAX (so I'm fairly sure they did a proper, correct image copy). Nero and CDburnerXP come to mind. FWIW it is possible to produce a CD that can be mounted as ISO9660 on (say) Windows but also presents the same data as an ODS-2 filesystem on VAX (or Alpha). I even built one or two such images back in the day. Antonio -- Antonio Carlini anto...@acarlini.com
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
On 05/04/2019 01:38 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: On 5/4/2019 8:15 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix systems that's trivial, just use the "dd" command to copy /dev/whatever to myfile.iso. Or, better than that, just put it in just about any computer and read the files, copy to a directory on hard drive, etc. The ISO-9660 format was designed to be OS-agnostic, so you can read the files on any OS. Jon
RE: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
Paul, VAX CD-ROMS generally are not ISO. ISO implies the ISO9660 file system, but many VAX CD ROMS are in native VMS Files-11 format. Some Windows utilities don't handle these so you need third party software to create an image of these CD's. Generally it has a .iso extension but as the content is not ISO9660 you can't mount it on Windows or Linux. There a couple of utilities that will convert arbitrary files to image files. I tend to use CD Burner XP https://cdburnerxp.se/en/download but you need to click "More download options" and use the "without install core" versions Dave > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of ben via cctalk > Sent: 04 May 2019 19:39 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files? > > On 5/4/2019 8:15 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect all you > need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix systems that's trivial, > just use the "dd" command to copy /dev/whatever to myfile.iso. > > > > paul > > Window users rejoice (until the next verion breaks something). > http://www.chrysocome.net/dd >
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
On 5/4/2019 8:15 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix systems that's trivial, just use the "dd" command to copy /dev/whatever to myfile.iso. paul Window users rejoice (until the next verion breaks something). http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
> On May 4, 2019, at 12:54 AM, J. Peterson via cctalk > wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files (old software, > backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable rate to have somebody > read each of these in, convert them to .ISO files or some other reasonable > format, and either make them downloadable or put them on a thumb drive. > > Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services for > converting audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that specifically handles > data CD-ROMs. > > Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't often check > this list. > > Thanks, > jp I thought a CD-ROM (data CD) *is* an ISO image. So I would expect all you need to do is make an image copy of the disk. On Unix systems that's trivial, just use the "dd" command to copy /dev/whatever to myfile.iso. paul
Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
Hi, I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files (old software, backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable rate to have somebody read each of these in, convert them to .ISO files or some other reasonable format, and either make them downloadable or put them on a thumb drive. Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services for converting audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that specifically handles data CD-ROMs. Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't often check this list. Thanks, jp
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
Hi, I used to do things like that for a living (www.farumdata.dk), but mainly from magnetic media. Nico J. Peterson via cctech skrev den 2019-05-04 06:54: Hi, I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files (old software, backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable rate to have somebody read each of these in, convert them to .ISO files or some other reasonable format, and either make them downloadable or put them on a thumb drive. Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services for converting audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that specifically handles data CD-ROMs. Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't often check this list. Thanks, jp
Re: Service for converting CD-ROMs into ISO files?
If you want to do it yourself, Mac: https://www.provideocoalition.com/howto_create_dvd_iso_from_files_mac/ Windows: http://wincdemu.sysprogs.org/tutorials/create/ -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 12:53 AM J. Peterson via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I have a stack of a few dozen CD-ROM disks with various files (old > software, backup files, photos). I'm willing to pay a reasonable rate > to have somebody read each of these in, convert them to .ISO files or > some other reasonable format, and either make them downloadable or > put them on a thumb drive. > > Does anybody know of such a service? I can find lots of services for > converting audio CD's into MP3 files, but nothing that specifically > handles data CD-ROMs. > > Any leads most appreciated. Please reply directly, as I don't often > check this list. > > Thanks, > jp > > >
