Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[Evan Koblentz via cctalk]

For extra credit was it drawn in any particular vintage software or 
computer?


Not to my knowledge.

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[Evan Koblentz via cctalk]

Apple II
IMSAI
ColecoVision


That's exactly right. We wanted to show some of his favorite systems. We 
already knew he likes cats, robots, Star Trek, and building electronic 
gadgets.





In any event, nice shirt :-)


Thank you.

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

For extra credit was it drawn in any particular vintage software or
computer?

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[Evan Koblentz via cctalk]

Gene wrote...

Just...no.

Yeah, agreed. No.

Fred wrote...

The "nuts" and "bolts" should be capacitors and chips.
The squared off U shaped object nearest on the desk >should be 
replaced by

an Escher Fork (aka impossible >trident).

soldering iron and scope, instead of hammer.
maybe some magic smoke escaping from whatever he >works on.
inadequate clutter.
howzbout some books and schematics



On Wed, 31 Jan 2018, Jay West wrote:

Completely agreed (Fred). But by the time you add all that... it's too
detailed for a t-shirt. Actually, already is.


Then, howzbout: leave out the guy.  He isn't "distinctive" enough to add 
much.  Then just show a cluttered vintage computer collector workbench.



Guys -- with all due respect, we posted this as a preview, not a 
crowdsourced method to make a whole new design. :)


Most of the feedback we received is very positive.

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[Ian Finder via cctalk]

Thanks, Evan. With that bit of background, I personally enjoy the design
quite a bit more- and the 'quirkiness' makes a lot more sense.

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Evan Koblentz via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I think it would be helpful if Evan and co. chimed in with the context of
>>> the shirt and why it exists- maybe a bit more about who the guy on it is.
>>>
>>
> Fair enough.
>
> It's a caricature of Dan Roganti aka Ragooman on this list, VC Forum,
> various Apple and S-100 forums, etc.
>
> Dan drew most of the early VCF East shirts in a certain style. Everyone
> liked those. Now he's going through a tough time (not my place to elaborate
> here), so we decided to make a shirt in his honor, using the same style.
>
> My favorite parts are the cat and the robot.
>



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Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[Evan Koblentz via cctalk]

I think it would be helpful if Evan and co. chimed in with the context of the 
shirt and why it exists- maybe a bit more about who the guy on it is.


Fair enough.

It's a caricature of Dan Roganti aka Ragooman on this list, VC Forum, 
various Apple and S-100 forums, etc.


Dan drew most of the early VCF East shirts in a certain style. Everyone 
liked those. Now he's going through a tough time (not my place to 
elaborate here), so we decided to make a shirt in his honor, using the 
same style.


My favorite parts are the cat and the robot.

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[Ian Finder via cctalk]

I've been told the fellow in the picture is someone active from the
community who I had never heard of or recognized, but who has fallen ill.-
which is very sad.
And the shirt was made to recognize him.

My criticism of the shirt was, admittedly, originally based on the
"stereotypical computer collector" on front.

While I'm not a big fan of the design in general, it's a nice gesture and I
think it would be helpful if Evan and co. chimed in with the context of the
shirt and why it exists- maybe a bit more about who the guy on it is.

Without this context, I ended up criticizing it for something it didn't
intend to portray- inadvertently insulting the subject in the process. :^(

Context! It's important! Not everyone picks up on every reference.

- Ian



On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Gene wrote...
>>
>>> Just...no.
>>>
>> Yeah, agreed. No.
>>
>> Fred wrote...
>>
>>> The "nuts" and "bolts" should be capacitors and chips.
>>> The squared off U shaped object nearest on the desk >should be replaced
>>> by
>>>
>> an Escher Fork (aka impossible >trident).
>>
>>> soldering iron and scope, instead of hammer.
>>> maybe some magic smoke escaping from whatever he >works on.
>>> inadequate clutter.
>>> howzbout some books and schematics
>>>
>>
>> On Wed, 31 Jan 2018, Jay West wrote:
>
>> Completely agreed (Fred). But by the time you add all that... it's too
>> detailed for a t-shirt. Actually, already is.
>>
>
> Then, howzbout: leave out the guy.  He isn't "distinctive" enough to add
> much.  Then just show a cluttered vintage computer collector workbench.
>
>
>


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Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

On 1/31/18 7:02 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote:

> Just...no.

TOS shirt on someone who looks like Carl Helmers in 1976?

Find someone that can draw, or get serious about Cubism.
This just looks stupid.

RE: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

Gene wrote...

Just...no.

Yeah, agreed. No.

Fred wrote...

The "nuts" and "bolts" should be capacitors and chips.
The squared off U shaped object nearest on the desk >should be replaced by

an Escher Fork (aka impossible >trident).

soldering iron and scope, instead of hammer.
maybe some magic smoke escaping from whatever he >works on.
inadequate clutter.
howzbout some books and schematics



On Wed, 31 Jan 2018, Jay West wrote:

Completely agreed (Fred). But by the time you add all that... it's too
detailed for a t-shirt. Actually, already is.


Then, howzbout: leave out the guy.  He isn't "distinctive" enough to add 
much.  Then just show a cluttered vintage computer collector workbench.

RE: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[Jay West via cctalk]

Gene wrote...
> Just...no.
Yeah, agreed. No.

Fred wrote...
>The "nuts" and "bolts" should be capacitors and chips.
>The squared off U shaped object nearest on the desk >should be replaced by
an Escher Fork (aka impossible >trident).
>soldering iron and scope, instead of hammer.
>maybe some magic smoke escaping from whatever he >works on.
>inadequate clutter.
>howzbout some books and schematics

Completely agreed (Fred). But by the time you add all that... it's too
detailed for a t-shirt. Actually, already is.

J

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

Here's a sneak preview of the shirt design for all of the 2018 Vintage 
Computer Federation events. As usual, each event will have a different 
shirt color.
Dan Roganti aka Ragooman used to design the VCF East shirts. Any 
similarity to him or his interests in the current design is purely

coincidental. :)
https://vcfed.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/pnw-shirt-front-1.png



Just...no.


That's not Pavl.


The "nuts" and "bolts" should be capacitors and chips.
The squared off U shaped object nearest on the desk should be replaced by 
an Escher Fork (aka impossible trident).

soldering iron and scope, instead of hammer.
maybe some magic smoke escaping from whatever he works on.
inadequate clutter.
howzbout some books and schematics

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[geneb via cctalk]

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018, Evan Koblentz via cctalk wrote:

Here's a sneak preview of the shirt design for all of the 2018 Vintage 
Computer Federation events. As usual, each event will have a different shirt 
color.


Dan Roganti aka Ragooman used to design the VCF East shirts. Any similarity 
to him or his interests in the current design is purely

coincidental. :)

https://vcfed.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/pnw-shirt-front-1.png


Just...no.

g.

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Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[Glen Slick via cctalk]

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:17 PM, Evan Koblentz via cctalk
 wrote:
> Here's a sneak preview of the shirt design for all of the 2018 Vintage
> Computer Federation events. As usual, each event will have a different shirt
> color.
>
> https://vcfed.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/pnw-shirt-front-1.png

Is that a ColecoVision?

Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

[Evan Koblentz via cctalk]

Here's a sneak preview of the shirt design for all of the 2018 Vintage 
Computer Federation events. As usual, each event will have a different 
shirt color.


Dan Roganti aka Ragooman used to design the VCF East shirts. Any 
similarity to him or his interests in the current design is purely

coincidental. :)

https://vcfed.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/pnw-shirt-front-1.png