Dave Wade wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ethan Dicks
> > Sent: 19 June 2020 15:44
> > To: Dave Wade ; General Discussion: On-Topic
> > and Off-Topic Posts
> > Subject: Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of
> > cctalk/cc
> On Jun 19, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 4:26 AM Dave Wade via cctalk
> wrote:
>> Its been ages since I did this but looking here
>>
>> https://www.aggsoft.com/rs232-pinout-cable/RS232.htm
>>
>> I see we have a transmit clock output on
On 19/06/2020 11:07, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
I already tried extracting ZSDRIVER.EXE from the DECnet/OSI kit for
VAX/VMS 7.3
and placing it in SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES but ZSA0: remained stubbornly
offline
until I installed the rest of DECnet/OSI and the LES$ACP_V30 process
started.
I think
On 2020-06-19 11:43 a.m., Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 4:26 AM Dave Wade via cctalk
wrote:
Its been ages since I did this but looking here
https://www.aggsoft.com/rs232-pinout-cable/RS232.htm
I see we have a transmit clock output on pin 24, transmit clock input on
> -Original Message-
> From: Ethan Dicks
> Sent: 19 June 2020 15:44
> To: Dave Wade ; General Discussion: On-Topic
> and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of
> cctalk/cctech
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 4:26 AM Da
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 4:26 AM Dave Wade via cctalk
wrote:
> Its been ages since I did this but looking here
>
> https://www.aggsoft.com/rs232-pinout-cable/RS232.htm
>
> I see we have a transmit clock output on pin 24, transmit clock input on 15
> and RX clock input on 17.
> So if on checking
> On Jun 19, 2020, at 6:07 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> ...
>
> The specifications manual says that the maximum speed for the DST32 is
> 19200 bps (for HDLC or SDLC) or 9600 bps (for DDCMP) but worryingly
> doesn't list a speed for BISYNC which is what I want to do with it :-(
Antonio Carlini wrote:
On 18/06/2020 14:06, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
>
> I have found the whole thing very confusing too. My suspicion was also
> that they were pretty much the same thing but the DST32 had exernal
> connectors suitable for mounting in a MicroVAX 2000 while the DST32 had
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:21:14AM +0100, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
> [...] Some of the UK banking systems like HOBS survived using viewdata that
> way up to the end of the 1990s, and I still have at least a couple of 1275
> modems.
Hobbyists are still running Viewdata BBSes. Here's one
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk On Behalf Of Peter Coghlan
> via cctalk
> Sent: 18 June 2020 23:11
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>
> Subject: Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of
> cctalk/cctech
>
> Ethan D
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> ...
>> Anyway, this whole line of attack is fairly academic as the modems can
>> only do 48kbps - 160kbps and the maximum for the DSH/T32 seems to be
>> 19200bps.
>>
>
> I'd be surprised if they don't work at up to 56k
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 5:55 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> ...
> I can rustle up +/-12V with a bench supply or two but I don't have a
> 1488 handy. I should be able to borrow a MAX232 from something though.
> I don't have any baud rate generators lying around either. How about a
On 6/18/20 2:55 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
> Ethan Dicks wrote:
> I can rustle up +/-12V with a bench supply or two but I don't have a
> 1488 handy. I should be able to borrow a MAX232 from something though.
> I don't have any baud rate generators lying around either. How about a
> 555
On 18/06/2020 21:31, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
I did see something vaguely similar. Bell 202 modems are 1200 baud FSK, so on
a voice channel they normally are 1200 bps half duplex. They can also be
hooked up to 4-wire fixed circuits. But they have a reverse channel, good for
150 baud
Ethan Dicks wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:42 PM Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> wrote:
> > Thanks for your reply Paul. My eventual goal is to be able to use the
> > synchronous serial interface on a MicroVAX to connect to IBM machines that
> > only support bisync lines.
>
> I'm curious which
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:08 PM Peter Coghlan via cctalk
wrote:
> Ethan Dicks wrote:
> > As for the clocking, yes, a modem or modem eliminator provides the
> > baud rate clocking on pins 15 and 17. You could use any one of a
> > number of baud rate generators...
> I can rustle up +/-12V with a
Ethan Dicks wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 5:53 AM Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> wrote:
> > To get somewhere near back on topic, I am trying to set up a synchronous
> > serial link between two MicroVAX 3100 machines with DSH32 (or DST32 maybe)
> > interfaces. One of the options I have is a BC19D
Paul Koning wrote:
>
> > On Jun 18, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk >
> > ...
> > As I mentioned in another reply, I have a pair of baseband synchronous mode
> > and were it not for a speed incompatibility between them and the MicroVAX
> > synchronous serial interfaces I have access
On 18/06/2020 14:06, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
I have found the whole thing very confusing too. My suspicion was also
that they were pretty much the same thing but the DST32 had exernal
connectors suitable for mounting in a MicroVAX 2000 while the DST32 had
external connectors that could
On 2020-06-18 3:34 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 6/18/20 6:06 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
and I also have two Nokia DS 60100 baseband modems, one with a V.35
interface card and one with an X.21 interface card. When I hook up the
former with the BC19F cable, I can get the
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:26 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 3:08 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>> On 6/18/20 11:55 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
>>
>>> We used to run our sync serial stuff between 9600 and 56kbps, both our
>>> own Bisync products,
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 3:08 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> On 6/18/20 11:55 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
>
> > We used to run our sync serial stuff between 9600 and 56kbps, both our
> > own Bisync products, and DDCMP over interfaces like the one that's
> > part of the DMF32...
>
> My
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
> However, Peter uses PMDF MAIL to post to the list because it has been
> pointed out to him that VMS MAIL doesn't do References: and In-Reply-To:
> headers correctly. On that note, has anyone heard from Mouse? I haven't
> seen anything
On 6/18/20 11:55 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
> We used to run our sync serial stuff between 9600 and 56kbps, both our
> own Bisync products, and DDCMP over interfaces like the one that's
> part of the DMF32. We had customers in Europe running our products at
> 64kbps with no problems, and
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:42 PM Peter Coghlan via cctalk
wrote:
> Thanks for your reply Paul. My eventual goal is to be able to use the
> synchronous serial interface on a MicroVAX to connect to IBM machines that
> only support bisync lines.
I'm curious which software package you are using. In
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:48 PM Paul Koning via cctalk
wrote:
> > On Jun 18, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> > wrote:
> > As I mentioned in another reply, I have a pair of baseband synchronous
> > modems
> > and were it not for a speed incompatibility between them and the MicroVAX
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 5:53 AM Peter Coghlan via cctalk
wrote:
> To get somewhere near back on topic, I am trying to set up a synchronous
> serial link between two MicroVAX 3100 machines with DSH32 (or DST32 maybe)
> interfaces. One of the options I have is a BC19D cable and a BC19V cable
>
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> ...
> As I mentioned in another reply, I have a pair of baseband synchronous modems
> and were it not for a speed incompatibility between them and the MicroVAX
> synchronous serial interfaces I have access to, ...
I'm
Paul Berger wrote:
On 2020-06-18 6:06 a.m., Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
>
>
> To get somewhere near back on topic, I am trying to set up a synchronous
> serial link between two MicroVAX 3100 machines with DSH32 (or DST32 maybe)
> interfaces. One of the options I have is a BC19D cable and a
On 6/18/20 6:06 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
> and I also have two Nokia DS 60100 baseband modems, one with a V.35
> interface card and one with an X.21 interface card. When I hook up the
> former with the BC19F cable, I can get the lights on the modem to react
> when I try to access
Antonio Carlini wrote:
On 18/06/2020 10:06, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
>
> To get somewhere near back on topic, I am trying to set up a synchronous
> serial link between two MicroVAX 3100 machines with DSH32 (or DST32 maybe)
> interfaces. One of the options I have is a BC19D cable and a
On 2020-06-18 6:06 a.m., Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
To get somewhere near back on topic, I am trying to set up a synchronous
serial link between two MicroVAX 3100 machines with DSH32 (or DST32 maybe)
interfaces. One of the options I have is a BC19D cable and a BC19V cable
which seem to
On 18/06/2020 10:06, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:
To get somewhere near back on topic, I am trying to set up a synchronous
serial link between two MicroVAX 3100 machines with DSH32 (or DST32 maybe)
interfaces. One of the options I have is a BC19D cable and a BC19V cable
which seem to be
Dave Wade wrote:
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Peter Coghlan
> > via cctalk
> > Sent: 18 June 2020 08:22
> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> >
> > Subject: RE: Future of cctalk/cctech
> >
> > ED SHARPE wrote:
> > > Use modern email
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