Re: TK50, was: Re: [TUHS] Ultrix Tape: Block Size?

2018-10-18 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 7:23 AM Paul Koning via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > On Oct 18, 2018, at 4:31 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 17 Oct 2018, Clem Cole wrote: > >> As Paul W pointed out correctly, the TK50 and its children in

Re: TK50, was: Re: [TUHS] Ultrix Tape: Block Size?

2018-10-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Oct 18, 2018, at 4:31 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk > wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Oct 2018, Clem Cole wrote: >> As Paul W pointed out correctly, the TK50 and its children in the DLT* >> family all used a fixed format 512 byte *blocks on the tape*.This > > And that is wrong. The TK50 clea

Re: TK50, was: Re: [TUHS] Ultrix Tape: Block Size?

2018-10-18 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018, Clem Cole wrote: As Paul W pointed out correctly, the TK50 and its children in the DLT* family all used a fixed format 512 byte *blocks on the tape*.This And that is wrong. The TK50 clearly uses variable block sizes. For example, have a look at a RSX11 or VMS tape: #

Re: TK50, was: Re: [TUHS] Ultrix Tape: Block Size?

2018-10-17 Thread Clem Cole via cctalk
I took most of this off line, but I'll try to close down the discussion, so we can get back to TUHS history. Please be careful of your wording as it is easy to get confused particularly if you never used the original 1/2" tape system you might not understand the actual terms. The term for reading

Re: TK50, was: Re: [TUHS] Ultrix Tape: Block Size?

2018-10-17 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Oct 17, 2018, at 10:50 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk > wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:15 AM emanuel stiebler via cctalk > wrote: >> there were >> TK50Z as an external drive, on "SCSI" > > I have one - for a MicroVAX 2000. I rarely used it. > >> TK50 on QBUS with an TQK50 controlle

Re: TK50, was: Re: [TUHS] Ultrix Tape: Block Size?

2018-10-17 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 8:15 AM emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: > there were > TK50Z as an external drive, on "SCSI" I have one - for a MicroVAX 2000. I rarely used it. > TK50 on QBUS with an TQK50 controller which really didn't stream to often We had one in the 1980s. You are right. It d

TK50, was: Re: [TUHS] Ultrix Tape: Block Size?

2018-10-16 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2018-10-16 20:37, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > >> On Oct 16, 2018, at 1:23 PM, William Pechter via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> DEC Tape II was the serial driven TU58. >> The TK50 was CompacTape or something like that. It was the predecessor of a >> number of square tapes... >> >> See DLT o