Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-16 Thread COURYHOUSE
think I have a drawer of them somewhere... HP keys as well. Wonder how many 'buyers ' are out there!? ed# In a message dated 7/15/2015 10:50:33 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ccl...@sydex.com writes: On 07/15/2015 09:50 PM, jwsmobile wrote: If you found someone making the keys, then

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-16 Thread Rick Murphy
At 08:51 PM 7/15/2015, Pete Turnbull wrote: To the best of my knowledge, there are only three keys: the tubular XX2247 which is used on most -8s and -11s including my 8/es and 11/34, the one that looks like a filing cabinet key used on just a few machines (all keyed alike), and the plastic

RE: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-16 Thread Dave G4UGM
July 2015 02:04 To: gene...@classiccmp.org; discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off- Topic Posts Subject: Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys On 07/15/2015 05:39 PM, Ali wrote: Maybe on the DEC keys but trying to make a key for an IBM lock proved impossible (i.e. make a key

RE: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-16 Thread tony duell
and Off- Topic Posts Subject: Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys On 07/15/2015 05:39 PM, Ali wrote: Maybe on the DEC keys but trying to make a key for an IBM lock proved impossible (i.e. make a key from the lock - not copy a key). Most lock smith I talked to said they did

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-16 Thread Noel Chiappa
From: tony duell The problem comes if the blank is 'restricted'. ... I would be surprised if the blank for the 11/05/GT40 key was restricted. It's not; IYWR I recently had a bunch of 11/05 keys made for people here, and it just used a standard blank. (In fact, there were several

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-16 Thread Todd Goodman
* Ethan Dicks ethan.di...@gmail.com [150715 23:18]: On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Chuck Guzis ccl...@sydex.com wrote: On 07/15/2015 06:37 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: Heck, I could crank out at least 40 of them tonight... I guess I'll just need to pass on that extra $4000 of income. :D

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-16 Thread Fred Cisin
On Wed, 15 Jul 2015, jwsmobile wrote: Stamp sets are 10 or 20 bucks @ harbor freight. But that isn't the problem. http://www.harborfreight.com/hand-tools/stamping/36-piece-18-in-steel-letternumber-stamping-set-60670.html How hard is it to set up a CNC mill to engrave letters and numbers? BUT,

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-16 Thread ben
On 7/16/2015 10:51 AM, Peter Coghlan wrote: Forget new keys ... the old key and WD-40 Is all the keyed stuff just power on type switches or do we have real padlocked type stuff?

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-16 Thread Mike Stein
- Original Message - From: Rick Murphy r...@rickmurphy.net To: Pete Turnbull p...@dunnington.plus.com; gene...@classiccmp.org; discuss...@classiccmp.org:@classiccmp.org Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:32 PM Subject: Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys At 08:51 PM 7/15

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-16 Thread Mike Ross
If you want a real key challenge, try those used by mid-90s IBM AS/400s. They were electronic; a lozenge-shaped slab of plastic with a bunch of contacts concealed in one end, and a chip of some kind inside (I never dared hack one apart!) IIRC, from the time I tried to obtain a spare, they weren't

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread Fred Cisin
Wow! should I dig out my Herty-Gerty? On 16/07/2015 00:13, Jay Jaeger wrote: One size fits very many, but not all. I know for sure that the PDP-8/L, PDP-8/m, PDP-12, PDP-11/20, PDP-11/40, PDP-11/45 and VAX-11/780 all use the same xx2247 key. My PDP-11/24 has a silly plastic anti static key,

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/15/2015 06:37 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: Heck, I could crank out at least 40 of them tonight with tools and supplies already on hand (an XX2247 to copy, a tubular key copying machine, a box of blanks, and a metal stamp set). But I closed my eBay account, so I guess I'll just need to pass on

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Ali cct...@fahimi.net wrote: Surely any competent locksmith could turn out one of these for less money, complete with the stamp... The key is easy (from the right place). The stamp is a little harder these days, since not everyone has the stamps. Maybe on the

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/15/2015 09:50 PM, jwsmobile wrote: If you found someone making the keys, then that is at variance with what is going on in general, as I called several locksmiths and all of them sing the same tune w/o prompting. The ACE way or the highway. Oh, I'll bet that there's someone in the far

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Chuck Guzis ccl...@sydex.com wrote: On 07/15/2015 06:37 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: Heck, I could crank out at least 40 of them tonight... I guess I'll just need to pass on that extra $4000 of income. :D Just think of what they'd go for if they were

RE: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread Ali
I've done it. ISTR it was around $8-$10 for one key. Might be $15 now. Copying pretty much always cheaper than code cuts, but you have to find someone that can cut ACE tubular keys at all (vending machines, etc). Ethan, What I tried to do was take the lock in and have them make a key. Not

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread jwsmobile
On 7/15/2015 8:17 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Alicct...@fahimi.net wrote: Surely any competent locksmith could turn out one of these for less money, complete with the stamp... The key is easy (from the right place). The stamp is a little harder these days, since

RE: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread tony duell
Only two bidders (so far), of which Bidder s***e (695) is clearly insane. :) Were these keys one size fits all? Or were they custom ala the IBM 5170 keys? Most (and all that I have seen) DEC machines that used this type of key were keyed alike and took the XX2247. I believe you could

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 16/07/2015 00:13, Jay Jaeger wrote: One size fits very many, but not all. I know for sure that the PDP-8/L, PDP-8/m, PDP-12, PDP-11/20, PDP-11/40, PDP-11/45 and VAX-11/780 all use the same xx2247 key. My PDP-11/24 has a silly plastic anti static key, but the xx2247 works there, too. But my

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 15/07/2015 21:55, P Gebhardt wrote: Ok, now who can tell me why the hell people bid so much on the metal version of the start/stop keys? I'm rally curious about that! http://www.ebay.com/itm/281749697289 Plus $47.00 USPS Priority Mail International, and International items may be

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Jul 15, 2015, at 18:03 , Chuck Guzis ccl...@sydex.com wrote: But it sounds as if these XX2247 keys aren't particularly rare, nor are they beyond the possibility of duplication. Heck, I could crank out at least 40 of them tonight with tools and supplies already on hand (an XX2247 to copy,

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread Jay Jaeger
Holy cow. On 7/15/2015 3:49 PM, Al Kossow wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281749697289

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread P Gebhardt
://www.digitalheritage.de - Ursprüngliche Message - Von: Al Kossow a...@bitsavers.org An: gene...@classiccmp.org CC: Gesendet: 21:49 Mittwoch, 15.Juli 2015 Betreff: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys http://www.ebay.com/itm/281749697289

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/15/2015 01:49 PM, Al Kossow wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281749697289 Surely any competent locksmith could turn out one of these for less money, complete with the stamp... --Chuck

RE: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread Ali
One size fits very many, but not all. I know for sure that the PDP- 8/L, PDP-8/m, PDP-12, PDP-11/20, PDP-11/40, PDP-11/45 and VAX-11/780 all use the same xx2247 key. My PDP-11/24 has a silly plastic anti static key, but the xx2247 works there, too. But my PDP-11/05 and GT40 use a

Re: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread Glen Slick
On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Al Kossow a...@bitsavers.org wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281749697289 Only two bidders (so far), of which Bidder s***e (695) is clearly insane. :)

RE: Time to dig out some of my DEC XX2247 keys

2015-07-15 Thread Ali
Only two bidders (so far), of which Bidder s***e (695) is clearly insane. :) Were these keys one size fits all? Or were they custom ala the IBM 5170 keys?