Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-19 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
UNIBUS. Cable plugged into a UNIBUS slot connected to an external box with up to 128Kwords. > On Jun 19, 2020, at 4:07 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Camiel Vanderhoeven > >> I know Intel made the in-4011 for the PDP-11, but I never saw a picture >> of it. > > Was it UNIBUS

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-19 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
> On Jun 19, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > > BTW, speaking of Intel PDP-11 memory, I have this: > >http://gunkies.org/wiki/File:IN-1611.jpg > > QBUS Intel memory board; hven't tried to get it running, though. > > Noel > I have a similar M8044 DD PDP-11

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-19 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Camiel Vanderhoeven > I know Intel made the in-4011 for the PDP-11, but I never saw a picture > of it. Was it UNIBUS memory, or what? It doesn't seem to be in that table of early Intel products. BTW, speaking of Intel PDP-11 memory, I have this:

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-17 Thread dwight via cctalk
be a different place today. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Chuck Guzis via cctalk Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 6:22 PM To: Nigel Johnson via cctalk Subject: Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973 On 6/16/20 5:17 PM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-16 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/16/20 5:17 PM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > I remember that shortage of memory chips. People in my office were all > blaming it the Ayatollah Khomeni! The running battle between "dumping" and supply. By 1980, Japan owned about half the world's DRAM market and US domestic producers were

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-16 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
I remember that shortage of memory chips. People in my office were all blaming it the Ayatollah Khomeni! On 16/06/2020 20:13, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 6/16/20 2:29 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: It's a stack of 16 memory cards covered in 4116 DRAMs and a couple of control/management boards

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-16 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/16/20 2:29 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > It's a stack of 16 memory cards covered in 4116 DRAMs and a couple of > control/management boards that cable over to the 11/70 the same way a > DEC MK11 box does. Oh yeah--I remember when 4116/2116 DRAMs were still new and in short supply. The local

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-16 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 1:33 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 6/14/20 8:41 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > > ... Do remember that Intel's claim to > > fame wasn't just micro processor. They were one of the first to do > > MOS RAMs for big machines. They were more into solid state memory > >

RE: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-15 Thread Rick Bensene via cctalk
Josh R. wrote: > I recently bought a mystery blinkenlight panel. Closer inspection reveals it > was manufactured by Intel in the early 70’s (1973), and some people on the > book of faces suggested it was part of a “device > multiplexer”(?) > I’m hoping someone here might be able to shed some

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-15 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 06/15/2020 10:19 AM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote: The IBM mainframe memory add ons I was familiar with were from Itel rather than Intel. I don’t see how intel could have had semi memory for mainframes in the early 1970s. We had Intersil static RAM on our IBM 370/145 machines in the early

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-15 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
I did say that (with a pun): "Intel Memory Systems was very big in the early-mod 1970s." in my original post. The "mod revival" occurred in the UK in the late 1970s. --Chuck On 6/15/20 9:19 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > Yes, but that is *MID* 70s, not early 70s > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-15 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
Yes, but that is *MID* 70s, not early 70s Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 6/15/20 8:19 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: >> The IBM mainframe memory add ons I was familiar with were from Itel rather >> than Intel. I don’t see how intel could

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-15 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
can anyone tell me what this is (manufacturer)? The font and such looks similar to the panel you are discussing in this thread. http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Temple/Manual-Automatic-Switch-Control.jpg thanks Bill On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 11:44 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-15 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/15/20 8:19 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > The IBM mainframe memory add ons I was familiar with were from Itel rather > than Intel. I don’t see how intel could have had semi memory for mainframes > in the early 1970s. > Intel used to brag in its ads that it manufactured more memory than IBM.

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-15 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
The IBM mainframe memory add ons I was familiar with were from Itel rather than Intel. I don’t see how intel could have had semi memory for mainframes in the early 1970s. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 15, 2020, at 8:32 AM, Joshua Rice via cctalk > wrote: > > Somehow it seems the thread

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-15 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 6/15/20 3:40 AM, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: Nice so appears to be 16-bit memory, with the ability to write either byte independently. The numbering on the address doesn't seem to match PDP-11 or DG NOVA . But the numbering doesn't seem to match. I wonder if some kind of mainframe...

RE: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-15 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Joshua Rice via > cctalk > Sent: 15 June 2020 11:02 > To: Chuck Guzis ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off- > Topic Posts > Subject: Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973 > > Somehow it seems t

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-15 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
Somehow it seems the thread got fragmented. I posted it to the other half of this thread. Here’s a link to a high-quality picture of the front panel, straight from the listing. Turns out i’m crap at taking steady photos https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/dysAAOSwqqJehZ-Y/s-l1600.jpg

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-15 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
ight via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> >> Subject: Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973 >> >> On 6/14/20 8:41 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: >>> I can see why I was having problems. The picture was upside down. It >>> looked like Spanish

RE: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-15 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis via > cctalk > Sent: 15 June 2020 06:33 > To: dwight via cctalk > Subject: Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973 > > On 6/14/20 8:41 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > > I can see why I wa

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/14/20 8:41 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > I can see why I was having problems. The picture was upside down. It > looked like Spanish or something. Do remember that Intel's claim to > fame wasn't just micro processor. They were one of the first to do > MOS RAMs for big machines. They were more

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
there ya  go!(as  I  said...) ED# In a message dated 6/14/2020 8:41:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:  It clearly isn't for some 4004 or 8008. It was likely monitoring some RAM for some mini. Dwight

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread dwight via cctalk
: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973 On 06/14/2020 03:05 PM, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: > https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/dysAAOSwqqJehZ-Y/s-l1600.jpg > <https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/dysAAOSwqqJehZ-Y/s-l1600.jpg> > > That’s off the listing. > > Clearly a panel fo

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 06/14/2020 03:05 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: 4004 or 8008 development system? bitsavers intel databook 1975 had a bit on them ... just front panel picture and call us for more information. Nope, way too many address bits, and 16 bits plus parity data word. Could possibly be some in-house

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 06/14/2020 03:05 PM, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/dysAAOSwqqJehZ-Y/s-l1600.jpg That’s off the listing. Clearly a panel for a memory device. Data is 16 bits plus 2 parity bits. There are

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
As a totally unrelated aside, few remember that Intel also made wristwatches. They had a subsidiary, Microma, that turned them out. National Semiconductor also made wristwatches. --Chuck

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
It would be useful if the legends on the panel were actually readable by mere mortals. Intel Memory Systems was very big in the early-mod 1970s. The reason was pretty simple--they offered add-on memory for IBM S/370 and other vendors cheaper than the OEMs could. --Chuck

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
That would my my guess as well; add-on semiconductor memory for a 16-bit minicomputer. I know Intel made the in-4011 for the PDP-11, but I never saw a picture of it. Camiel > On Jun 14, 2020, at 6:46 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk > wrote: > > > Add on solid state memory unit some semi

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread ben via cctalk
On 6/14/2020 2:01 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 12:46 PM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: Add on solid state memory unit some semi companies made tjem. For add to Dec and dg? Dunno. A guess ed smecc On Sunday, June 14, 2020 Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: Hi

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
an't make out what it says, even with > magnification. > Dwight > > > From: cctalk on behalf of Al Kossow via > cctalk > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 9:21 AM > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circ

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
thus  my  comment  of  an add on memory  store  etc...---   Ed  SMECC In a message dated 6/14/2020 1:01:19 PM US Mountain Standard Time, billdeg...@gmail.com writes:  I’m 95% confident it’s not strictly a “computer” blinkenlight panel, but rather an attached device, but that still hasn’t helped

Re: : Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Sun, Jun 14, 2020, 12:46 PM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > > Add on solid state memory unit some semi companies made tjem. For add to > Dec and dg? Dunno. A guess > ed smecc > On Sunday, June 14, 2020 Joshua Rice via cctalk cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi all. > > I recently

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread dwight via cctalk
Hi Al Can you repeat what the text is? I can't make out what it says, even with magnification. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Al Kossow via cctalk Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 9:21 AM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel

: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Add on  solid state memory unit  some semi companies made tjem. For add to Dec and dg?  Dunno. A guess    ed smecc On Sunday, June 14, 2020 Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: Hi all. I recently bought a mystery blinkenlight panel. Closer inspection reveals it was manufactured by Intel in the

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 6/14/20 9:01 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: Any reason the picture is upside down?  Also, blurry, so it is hard to read the labels. I can't find the original eBay listing right now. The pictures were better on there

Re: Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 06/14/2020 03:52 AM, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: Hi all. I recently bought a mystery blinkenlight panel. Closer inspection reveals it was manufactured by Intel in the early 70’s (1973), and some people on the book of faces suggested it was part of a “device multiplexer”(?) I’m 95%

Unknown Intel blinkenlight panel circa 1973

2020-06-14 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
Hi all. I recently bought a mystery blinkenlight panel. Closer inspection reveals it was manufactured by Intel in the early 70’s (1973), and some people on the book of faces suggested it was part of a “device multiplexer”(?) I’m 95% confident it’s not strictly a “computer” blinkenlight panel,