Re: Able document at VCF Midwest

2019-10-07 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Do we know where the docs were before they hit the Free Pile? I took > home a few boxes of Will D's DECdocs, which I can double-check to make > sure yours didn't intermix. Otherwise, stuff flew off the Pile as fast > as it was placed there. This title does not ring a bell with me - I likely

Re: Able document at VCF Midwest

2019-10-07 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Jason T > didn't know you were at the show. Thanks for coming out! I wasn't! :-) This is via Paul A, who was there. I don't recall where they were before they got free-piled (he told me who it was who had it, but I had no particular reason to store those bits in my memory).

Re: Able document at VCF Midwest

2019-10-06 Thread Jason T via cctalk
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 12:05 PM Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > There was an Able Computer document at VCF Midwest, and through a > miscommunication, it wound up on the 'free' pile. Did anyone here get it? > If so, I'd like to try and get it scanned in, and made available. Do we k

Re: Able document at VCF Midwest

2019-10-06 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Christian Corti >> we only have those for the UNIVERTER and QNIVERTER > And what about the stuff on bitsavers? That's where I got my copies of the UNIVERTER and QNIVERTER docs. I guess I missed grabbing a few; and I see a few more have been added since I last looked:

Re: Able document at VCF Midwest

2019-10-06 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Sat, 5 Oct 2019, Noel Chiappa wrote: The thing is that documentation for Able products is hyper-rare; we only have those for the UNIVERTER and QNIVERTER, and some preliminary notes for the ENABLE. So if this can somehow be located... And what about the stuff on bitsavers? I personally have

Able document at VCF Midwest

2019-10-05 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
This is a long shot, but... There was an Able Computer document at VCF Midwest, and through a miscommunication, it wound up on the 'free' pile. Did anyone here get it? If so, I'd like to try and get it scanned in, and made available. The thing is that documentation for Able products is hyper

VCF Midwest 14 Videos

2019-10-01 Thread Jason T via cctalk
The videos are up! The last of the VCF Midwest 14 Talks videos, shot in glorious 4K and lovingly edited by the intrepid Trixter, have been rendered and posted to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/vcfmidwest Check out the Talks you missed this year and in years past, as well as select

VCF Midwest 14 Wrap-Up

2019-09-27 Thread Jason T via cctalk
survey form in our latest mailing list message here: https://us18.admin.mailchimp.com/campaigns/show?id=389367 And finally a big THANK YOU to all who donated, displayed, volunteered and attended in order to make VCF Midwest the most enjoyable and exhausting weekend of the year for us. -j

Announcing VCF Pacific Northwest 2020

2019-09-08 Thread Michael Brutman via cctalk
attractions include the Connections Museum, the Pacific Science Center, MoPOP, the Boeing factory tour, Mr. Rainier, etc. Victoria, British Columbia is also a short distance away. See a more complete list at https://goo.gl/3emMWH . Details about VCF PNW 2020 can be found at http://vcfed.org/vcf-pnw

Re: VCF Berlin

2019-09-04 Thread Angelo Papenhoff via cctalk
On 30/08/19, Dave Wade wrote: > What are the opening times? I think I might manage a Sunday but don't arrive > at TXL until 10:55 Sorry for the delay. The opening times have now been added. 10:00h - 20:00h on saturday 10:00h - 17:30h on sunday aap

RE: VCF Berlin

2019-08-30 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
What are the opening times? I think I might manage a Sunday but don't arrive at TXL until 10:55 Dave > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Angelo Papenhoff > via cctalk > Sent: 30 August 2019 09:38 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: VCF Berlin > >

Re: VCF Berlin

2019-08-30 Thread Angelo Papenhoff via cctalk
On 30/08/19, Stefan Skoglund wrote: > > The old Anhalter bahnhof ? That's the one.

Re: VCF Berlin

2019-08-30 Thread Stefan Skoglund via cctalk
fre 2019-08-30 klockan 10:37 +0200 skrev Angelo Papenhoff via cctalk: > So many VCFs happening in the US but we have them in Europe too! > VCF Berlin is not even two months away (Oct 12th and 13th) and > you can still register as an exhibitor till Sept 8th. > Our special top

VCF Berlin

2019-08-30 Thread Angelo Papenhoff via cctalk
So many VCFs happening in the US but we have them in Europe too! VCF Berlin is not even two months away (Oct 12th and 13th) and you can still register as an exhibitor till Sept 8th. Our special topic this year will be Computer from Germany. The show will be located at the Technikmuseum (do I need

Re: Photos from VCF West 2019

2019-08-27 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Tue, Aug 06, 2019 at 07:54:21PM +0200, Ed C. via cctalk wrote: > Thanks for sharing! Yes, thanks for sharing. I have finally came to reading this thread (I am of the anonymous time waster type) and I find the photographs very interesting. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked

VCF West 2019 Visitor Survey

2019-08-08 Thread Michael Brutman via cctalk
Before VCF West 2019 becomes too much of a pleasant memory ... We'd like to hear from you! This should take less than two minutes: http://vcfed.org/vcf-survey Tell us what we did well and where we need improvement. Or contact me directly. We're not fussy, and we want to do better at our

Re: VCF Midwest 14 Talks and Talkers

2019-08-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 21:04, Jason T via cctalk wrote: > > I took a lot of, uh, "inspiration" from that page :) :-D -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn:

Re: Photos from VCF West 2019

2019-08-07 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
so 17 unique Apple-1 computers, not counting the one in the CHM collection ,were on the floor at one time or another over the weekend So, doing some simple math: 18 of ~70 remaining is .25xxx ... so 25% of all Apple 1s in existence were there! There hasn't been that many in one place since

Re: Photos from VCF West 2019

2019-08-07 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: On 8/6/19 10:13 AM, Brian K. Perry via cctalk wrote: > Thought I would share some photos I took of VCF West this past weekend in > Mountain View, CA. > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/gF6Sd34SxQMzJEZPA Any (more) photos of Ca

Re: Photos from VCF West 2019

2019-08-06 Thread corey cohen via cctalk
the weekend. It was so crazy I never even powered mine up, though mine is usually shown running at VCF east so no excitement having it run. You also missed getting a picture of the AGC opened up. The guys who did the restoration of operational one on Sunday opened up the AGC so you could see

Re: VCF Midwest 14 Talks and Talkers

2019-08-06 Thread Ed C. via cctalk
Great page design, congrats. On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 9:04 PM Jason T via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 12:38 PM Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 19:28, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk > > wrote: > > > > > > Especially the > > > > > > "Notice: Undefined index:

Re: VCF Midwest 14 Talks and Talkers

2019-08-06 Thread Jason T via cctalk
On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 12:38 PM Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 19:28, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk > wrote: > > > > Especially the > > > > "Notice: Undefined index: currentpage in /var/www/vcfmw.org/footer.html on > > line 34" > > > > at the bottom. I felt right at home ;)

Re: Photos from VCF West 2019

2019-08-06 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> Any (more) photos of Cameron's RISC laptops and portables exhibits? I'll be putting up my own soonish as soon as I can escape from $DAYJOB. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com *

Re: Photos from VCF West 2019

2019-08-06 Thread Ed C. via cctalk
Thanks for sharing! On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 7:14 PM Brian K. Perry via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Thought I would share some photos I took of VCF West this past weekend in > Mountain View, CA. > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/gF6Sd34SxQMzJEZPA > > Brian >

Re: Photos from VCF West 2019

2019-08-06 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
On 8/6/19 10:13 AM, Brian K. Perry via cctalk wrote: Thought I would share some photos I took of VCF West this past weekend in Mountain View, CA. https://photos.app.goo.gl/gF6Sd34SxQMzJEZPA Any (more) photos of Cameron's RISC laptops and portables exhibits? Or the IPX lunchbox exhibit (so I

Re: VCF Midwest 14 Talks and Talkers

2019-08-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 19:28, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: > > Especially the > > "Notice: Undefined index: currentpage in /var/www/vcfmw.org/footer.html on > line 34" > > at the bottom. I felt right at home ;) I liked that too! Reminded me of: http://www.coboloncogs.org/INDEX.HTM (c)

Photos from VCF West 2019

2019-08-06 Thread Brian K. Perry via cctalk
Thought I would share some photos I took of VCF West this past weekend in Mountain View, CA. https://photos.app.goo.gl/gF6Sd34SxQMzJEZPA Brian

Re: VCF West?

2019-08-02 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 4:19 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> our legendary VCF consignment sale, > On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Ali via cctalk wrote: > > Maybe at the other meets (e.g. MW or Pacific NW) but the last few times > not so much at VCFW. Last year I bought so

RE: VCF West?

2019-08-01 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
our legendary VCF consignment sale, On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, Ali via cctalk wrote: Maybe at the other meets (e.g. MW or Pacific NW) but the last few times not so much at VCFW. Last year I bought some stuff because Fred specifically brought stuff for me. I don't know about "legendary&

Re: VCF West?

2019-08-01 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/1/19 11:04 AM, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote: > Exhibit list looks nicely varied, though it would have been nice to see an > exhibit and/or talk about Bill Godbout They've been too busy worrying about guards with firearms.

RE: VCF West?

2019-08-01 Thread Ali via cctalk
> our legendary VCF consignment sale, Maybe at the other meets (e.g. MW or Pacific NW) but the last few times not so much at VCFW. Last year I bought some stuff because Fred specifically brought stuff for me. > great food Yeah. Not quite ;) >, and incredible company/friends!

Re: VCF West?

2019-08-01 Thread Steven M Jones via cctalk
On 07/30/2019 23:43, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF West? (other than Apple oneS) Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend? On Tuesday a colleague at $WORK reposted the Hackaday announcement, and he's far from the ccmp crowd. So word

Re: VCF West?

2019-08-01 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
>> I see it's already been dropped there to promote VCF MW I don't know what you mean. "Dropped there to promote Midwest" ... that is false. VCF West is atop our website header, our blog page, and the VC Forum header. It's true that we are focusing more on social media. Th

Re: VCF West?

2019-08-01 Thread corey cohen via cctalk
There have been lots of mentions of VCF West on social media and I think even in the press. I’m heading out to the west coast right now for the show and it’s going to be one for the record books. There are more exhibitors (35+) then ever before and lots of cool talks. Cheers, Corey corey

Re: VCF West?

2019-08-01 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF West? (other than Apple oneS) Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend? I was planning to take a carload of stuff down for consignment, but my health has been too bad to even load the car. Because we're very busy planning a kick-ass

Final reminder, VCF West

2019-08-01 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
VCF West is this weekend at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California. All of the details (and online ticket sales) are at http://vcfed.org/vcfwest. -Evan K.

Re: VCF West?

2019-07-31 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> > Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF West? > > Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend? > > I has been embarassingly underpromoted. Well, I'll be there. I put a lot of midnight oil into getting the hosts configured and they'll be on display. Couldn't g

Re: VCF West?

2019-07-31 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> The only mention I've heard of the event is that the main attraction is 10 > of the exact same boring, single-board, extremely simple, but incredibly > expensive computer. Perhaps an overrated collectible, rather than an > interesting technological showcase- my interests focus more toward the >

Re: VCF West?

2019-07-31 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jul 30, 2019, at 11:43 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF West? Some of us have been busy trying to prep for it. :) -- Chris

Re: VCF West?

2019-07-31 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 2:02 PM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 7/30/19 11:43 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF West? > > Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend? > > I has been embarassingly underpro

Re: VCF West?

2019-07-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Ian Finder via cctalk wrote: The only mention I've heard of the event is that the main attraction is 10 of the exact same boring, single-board, extremely simple, but incredibly expensive computer. Perhaps an overrated collectible, rather than an interesting technological

Re: VCF West?

2019-07-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: I has been embarassingly underpromoted. Is it so great that it promotes itself, even with their light hidden under a bushel? (well, I think so) I realize that this group is pretty harsh in response to any OVER-promotion, but nobody would

Re: VCF West?

2019-07-31 Thread Ian Finder via cctalk
there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF West? > > Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend? > > I has been embarassingly underpromoted. > They couldn't even get the promo right on the http://www.vcfed.org banner > for months > and I see it's already been dropped there to promote VCF MW > > > >

Re: VCF West?

2019-07-31 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 7/30/19 11:43 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF West? > Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend? I has been embarassingly underpromoted. They couldn't even get the promo right on the http://www.vcfed.org banner for months and

VCF West?

2019-07-31 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF West? (other than Apple oneS) Isn't it scheduled for this coming weekend? I was planning to take a carload of stuff down for consignment, but my health has been too bad to even load the car.

VCF Midwest 14 Overflow Hotel Block Open

2019-07-30 Thread Jason T via cctalk
Hello vintage fans! This is exactly the kind of problem a growing show wants to have, but it's a problem nonetheless. The Clarion Inn hotel attached to our show venue is FULL for Saturday night 9/14. There may be a few rooms left for Friday 9/13, but that doesn't do you a whole lot of good if

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-09 Thread Seth J. Morabito via cctalk
Tor Arntsen via cctalk writes: > On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 18:19, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > >> What matters to me is [b]documentation[/b], however it's preserved. I'm >> often faced with a bit of old data and I need to know the details upon >> which it was fabricated. That has value to

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 06:04, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Be careful about taunting a time traveller. > He might read what you write and it might give him ideas. Oh no! Roko's basilisk! You've wok+++ATH NO CARRIER

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-09 Thread Tor Arntsen via cctalk
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 18:19, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > What matters to me is [b]documentation[/b], however it's preserved. I'm > often faced with a bit of old data and I need to know the details upon > which it was fabricated. That has value to me. Al K has been > invaluable in this

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at VCF West, and we're working on getting more. Why? That is, what’s the advantage of having 10+ instead of one or two? Awesomeness. The Apple I never did very much, so is there really much to actually show

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
Yes Evan, you mentioned that. I know; ergo my use of a smiley there...

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 09:04:38PM -0700, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jul 2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: > >That is him. > >I thought that some fun could be made of him: invent some stories [...] > > Be careful about taunting a time traveller. > He might read what you write and

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: That is him. I thought that some fun could be made of him: invent some stories about how he conducts various petty crimes in a past in order to get hold of many precious classic computers. So that he could easily retire like some of use would

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 10:02:27PM -0500, John Herron wrote: > Maybe I should Google this but I thought John Titor was the man claiming to > be from the future and looking for an IBM 5100 for the ability to run APL. That is him. > I'm not familiar with any apple 1 story but I remember him

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 8, 2019, 1:09 PM Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: Or even how John Titor swindled Apple I board supposed to be owned by Guy D from under his nose and now sits on many such boards, retired and sipping pinacolada. On Mon, 8 Jul 2019, John Herron via cctalk wrote: Maybe I should

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread John Herron via cctalk
Maybe I should Google this but I thought John Titor was the man claiming to be from the future and looking for an IBM 5100 for the ability to run APL. I'm not familiar with any apple 1 story but I remember him posting and calling in to a night time radio show. I didn't follow everything so I

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Evan Koblentz via cctalk wrote: Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at VCF West, and we're working on getting more. On Mon, 8 Jul 2019, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: Why? That is, what’s the advantage of having 10+ instead

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Evan Koblentz via cctalk wrote: > > Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at > VCF West, and we're working on getting more. Why? That is, what’s the advantage of having 10+ instead of one or two? The Apple I never did

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
can afford such things. Many of them buy an Apple 1 because they can, not because it's an investment. Anyway: we're having at least 10 of 'em at VCF West, did I mention that? :) To some yuppies, the cost is something to brag about being able to afford. To the truly wealthy, it is irrelevant

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread dwight via cctalk
: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West > The only people growing up today that would pay anything like that amount, > would only pay that much because they expected to make a profit. It is just > an investment. Don't underestimate the force of

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
an Apple 1 because they can, not because it's an investment. Anyway: we're having at least 10 of 'em at VCF West, did I mention that? :)

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 01:30:36PM -0500, John Foust via cctalk wrote: > At 01:09 PM 7/8/2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: > >Now they tell me (bastards!) that said keyboard > >alone can go for 1000+ euros. And never mind the big box, mem extender > >and the rest. > > What? Why? I must have a

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread dwight via cctalk
, July 8, 2019 8:10 AM To: Chuck Guzis; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West The high price isn’t a Steve Jobs distortion field. The Apple-1 was collectible in the 1980’s before Jobs became the one we all remember. The Apple-1

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 7/8/19 9:19 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > What matters to me is [b]documentation[/b], however it's preserved. I'm > often faced with a bit of old data and I need to know the details upon > which it was fabricated. That has value to me. Al K has been > invaluable in this respect. >

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 01:09 PM 7/8/2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: >Now they tell me (bastards!) that said keyboard >alone can go for 1000+ euros. And never mind the big box, mem extender >and the rest. What? Why? I must have a few in the warehouse... - John

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 09:19:09AM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 7/8/19 8:25 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > > > > Spoken like a non-collector. :-) > > I suppose that's the root of it. I'm basically a pragmatist. I give > away old hardware that no longer has any use to me.

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread corey cohen via cctalk
The high price isn’t a Steve Jobs distortion field. The Apple-1 was collectible in the 1980’s before Jobs became the one we all remember. The Apple-1 was really the 1st collectible personal computer and it was produced in very limited numbers for a very short time and was tied the grandparent

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 7/8/19 8:25 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > Spoken like a non-collector. :-) I suppose that's the root of it. I'm basically a pragmatist. I give away old hardware that no longer has any use to me. When I am eventually forced to downsize, (or my widow is) most of the stuff will go

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 17:02, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > Practically speaking, what's the difference between a close working > replica and the original? Are the bits somehow imbued with some > additional spiritual property? > > The replica may actually be more reliable. Spoken like a

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 7/8/19 7:43 AM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote: >> Actually the cheapest Apple-1 reproduction is just over 4 figures.  A >> reproduction with date correct components cost as much as 5 figures. >> A work-alike like a replica-1 is cheap, maybe $150 > > No idea why people would go 5 figures on a

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
Actually the cheapest Apple-1 reproduction is just over 4 figures. A reproduction with date correct components cost as much as 5 figures. A work-alike like a replica-1 is cheap, maybe $150 No idea why people would go 5 figures on a replica that is still a replica? The only reason for the

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-07 Thread corey cohen via cctalk
Actually the cheapest Apple-1 reproduction is just over 4 figures. A reproduction with date correct components cost as much as 5 figures. A work-alike like a replica-1 is cheap, maybe $150 Cheers, Corey corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Evan

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-07 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Evan Koblentz > what the owners plan to do in the future. Sell the Apple I and retire to a tropical island on the proceeds, if they have any sense! :-) Noel

Apple ][ EPROM programmer Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-07 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Guy said > I just _love_ being reminded of the circumstances of my NOT buying an Apple > I, and what that mistake cost me. > > http://everist.org/NobLog/20181001_missing_wave.htm You mention you were not aware of any EPROM programmer boards for the Apple ][. I had one for my taiwanese FORMOSA

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-06 Thread ben via cctalk
On 7/6/2019 7:59 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: Not many collectors back when the Apple1 came out! While the CHEAP 6502 is remembered with the Apple we must not forget that the 16 pin 4K dram really made that computer work. Regardless of the architecture, 32 KB is needed to do any useful

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-06 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Not many collectors back when the Apple1 came out!  Not  sure either if many understood  what that  single board computer  would  birth in the  way  of a line  of  follow ons.  Sometimes  the future is not  known! Ed# In a message dated 7/6/2019 6:51:40 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-06 Thread ben via cctalk
On 7/6/2019 1:12 AM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: At 08:21 PM 5/07/2019 -0400, you wrote: You could be sitting on $400K-$1,000,000. That's the current range of decent-condition Apple 1 boards. I just _love_ being reminded of the circumstances of my NOT buying an Apple I, and what that

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 09:12, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: > > I just _love_ being reminded of the circumstances of my NOT buying an Apple > I, and what that mistake cost me. > > http://everist.org/NobLog/20181001_missing_wave.htm Sad reading... -- Liam Proven - Profile:

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-06 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 08:21 PM 5/07/2019 -0400, you wrote: >You could be sitting on $400K-$1,000,000. That's the current range of >decent-condition Apple 1 boards. I just _love_ being reminded of the circumstances of my NOT buying an Apple I, and what that mistake cost me.

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-06 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
What  are the  replicas   gong  for Evan? A perfect reproduction -- for example a Mimeo will entirely date-code-correct components -- can go for four figures. Most repros/replicas aren't at that level.

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-06 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
real or replica? Real! That's the whole point. we  might like a  replica for display..oddly though with the thousands  of piles of boards heck we may even have a real one... never bothered to look for one in the STUFF! My classic  mode is  if I do not know what it is  put it in a box

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-06 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
When do you ever get a photo op with a bunch of apple 1 systems (which I hope is a thing). Definitely! I thought the subject was a typo until I saw the sender lol :)

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-05 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Time  to  start  sorting  boards!Although...  I  am not  sure  if I will live long enough to get though all of it... What  are the  replicas   gong  for  Evan? Ed# In a message dated 7/5/2019 5:21:17 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cct...@snarc.net writes: > real or replica? Real! That's the

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-05 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
, Jul 5, 2019, 4:27 PM Evan Koblentz via cctalk wrote: > Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be > displayed at VCF West, and we're working on getting more. Several of > these will be up-and-running. Original and current owners will join > early Apple employee

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-05 Thread John Herron via cctalk
ers will be > displayed at VCF West, and we're working on getting more. Several of > these will be up-and-running. Original and current owners will join > early Apple employees in a panel to discuss the computers, why they were > purchased, how they were used, and what the owners plan to do in t

Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-05 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at VCF West, and we're working on getting more. Several of these will be up-and-running. Original and current owners will join early Apple employees in a panel to discuss the computers, why they were purchased, how

VCF Midwest: Hotel Reservations Open

2019-06-10 Thread Jason T via cctalk
. Every room (and room-night) counts toward reducing our venue costs and increases the chances of being invited back next year! If you book with AAA or another group plan, please let the hotel know that you are attending VCF Midwest and they will credit your stay to our block. RESERVATIONS MUST

Re: VCF Southeast Photos, Now Thinking Machines

2019-05-07 Thread Sytse van Slooten via cctalk
Thanks! Had a good bit of fun reading that. I’m not going to try building an FPGA version though. Not yet. > On 3 May 2019, at 22:26, Jan Adelsbach via cctalk > wrote: > > On 5/3/19 8:02 PM, Sytse van Slooten via cctalk wrote: It's a CM-2. The problem with most CM-2s - aside not working

Re: VCF Southeast Photos

2019-05-04 Thread Jason T via cctalk
On Fri, May 3, 2019, 06:21 Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > It looks to me like an Apple "live photo". > Google/Android's version of the same. In a couple cases (like the CM's LED panels) I used it intentionally to capture motion. In others, I had forgotten to shut it off :( I can/should go

Re: VCF Southeast Photos, Now Thinking Machines

2019-05-03 Thread Jan Adelsbach via cctalk
On 5/3/19 8:02 PM, Sytse van Slooten via cctalk wrote: It's a CM-2. The problem with most CM-2s - aside not working in 2019 - is most were never fully populated with card cages in all 8 hyper-cubes. That particular machine only has card cages in 2 of the hyper-cubes. The other 6 are empty.

Re: VCF Southeast Photos, Now Thinking Machines

2019-05-03 Thread Sytse van Slooten via cctalk
>> It's a CM-2. The problem with most CM-2s - aside not working in 2019 - is >> most were never fully populated with card cages in all 8 hyper-cubes. That >> particular machine only has card cages in 2 of the hyper-cubes. The other 6 >> are empty. I'm not sure a machine with max 64K

Re: VCF Southeast Photos

2019-05-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 10:41, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: > > Very nice photos although I am confused by some. Some of them appear to > be moving but a lot of stuff stays still. What is happening?? Please bottom-post on the list. It looks to me like an Apple "live photo". -- Liam Proven -

Re: VCF Southeast Photos

2019-05-03 Thread Aaron Jackson via cctalk
er seen so many Crays in once place - and > they're not even done yet! > > Here is my photo set: https://photos.app.goo.gl/aiKGadREX511xeUt5 > (contains computers, computer collectors and one giant rabbit) > > Big thanks to Earl and the gang for putting on another great VCF and > show

Re: VCF Southeast Photos, Now Thinking Machines

2019-05-01 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
It's a CM-2. The problem with most CM-2s - aside not working in 2019 - is most were never fully populated with card cages in all 8 hyper-cubes. That particular machine only has card cages in 2 of the hyper-cubes. The other 6 are empty. I'm not sure a machine with max 64K processors was ever

Re: VCF Southeast Photos

2019-05-01 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
Last weekend I made an unannounced visit out to Roswell, GA to visit our brothers-and-sisters-in-hoarding at the Vintage Computer Festival Southeast. They were hosted by the new location of the Computer Museum of America, not yet open to the public. The show was a solid representation of the

Re: VCF Southeast Photos

2019-05-01 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
> On 1 May 2019, at 22:42, alan--- via cctalk wrote: > > > It's a CM-2. The problem with most CM-2s - aside not working in 2019 - is > most were never fully populated with card cages in all 8 hyper-cubes. That > particular machine only has card cages in 2 of the hyper-cubes. The other 6

Re: VCF Southeast Photos

2019-05-01 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> It's a CM-2. The problem with most CM-2s... Oh, I forgot - the problems with all CM-2s is that they are fantastically useless machines. The SIMD hypercube architecture looked good on paper... -- Will

Re: VCF Southeast Photos

2019-05-01 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> It's a CM-2. The problem with most CM-2s - aside not working in 2019 - > is most were never fully populated with card cages in all 8 hyper-cubes. Most were 16K machines, I think. > The CM-2 in the photo has faux LED panels installed with LEDs spacing > that exactly matches the real CPU card

Re: VCF Southeast Photos

2019-05-01 Thread alan--- via cctalk
Few more photos here: https://www.atlhcs.org/photos-from-vintage-computer-festival-southeast-7-0/ -Alan On 2019-05-01 16:10, Jason T via cctalk wrote: Last weekend I made an unannounced visit out to Roswell, GA to visit our brothers-and-sisters-in-hoarding at the Vintage Computer Festival

Re: VCF Southeast Photos

2019-05-01 Thread alan--- via cctalk
It's a CM-2. The problem with most CM-2s - aside not working in 2019 - is most were never fully populated with card cages in all 8 hyper-cubes. That particular machine only has card cages in 2 of the hyper-cubes. The other 6 are empty. I'm not sure a machine with max 64K processors was

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