RE: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
There’s a lot of aluminum stove knobs that might fit the bill.  Google “metal 
stove replacement button” and you’ll see a few.



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To: William Donzelli via cctalk
Subject: Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

On 5/28/19 10:35 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> Those knobs look like they are cast pop metal or zinc or something,
> not Bakelite.

What flavor pop?  ("pot" metal or monkey metal).

--Chuck



Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Umm...yes, I know.

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Will

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 6:35 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> On 5/28/19 10:35 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> > Those knobs look like they are cast pop metal or zinc or something,
> > not Bakelite.
>
> What flavor pop?  ("pot" metal or monkey metal).
>
> --Chuck
>


Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/28/19 10:35 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> Those knobs look like they are cast pop metal or zinc or something,
> not Bakelite.

What flavor pop?  ("pot" metal or monkey metal).

--Chuck



Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk


> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 10:36:10 AM PDT, William Donzelli via cctalk 
>  wrote:
>
>  Those knobs look like they are cast pop metal or zinc or something,
> not Bakelite.
>
> --
> Will
> They are metal for sure. Probably cast. They are smooth, though there's a bit 
> of corrosion and pitting on them now.There's a set screw at the bottom of the 
> back side. 
> Dwight suggest casting one. I've never done casting before but this might be 
> a good thing to try it on.Would have to drill the shaft and set screw holes 
> afterwards, and a bit of finish work to make them smooth.It's a cool panel so 
> probably worth the effort if I can't find one out there
somewhere...> Bob

I agree casting might be for you the easiest way to go, then spray it. It's an 
unusual shape
but a good enough copy for 3D printing could be done in OpenSCAD from a few 
caliper measurements:
disk dia, disk rim height, overall height, dip angle, top paddle width, bottom 
paddle width,
top indent length/width/depth and paddle front radius ought to be enough.

Steve.





Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
They look like something off an old stove ;-)

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On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 10:36:10 AM PDT, William Donzelli via cctalk 
 wrote:  
 
 Those knobs look like they are cast pop metal or zinc or something,
not Bakelite.

--
Will
They are metal for sure. Probably cast. They are smooth, though there's a bit 
of corrosion and pitting on them now.There's a set screw at the bottom of the 
back side. 
Dwight suggest casting one. I've never done casting before but this might be a 
good thing to try it on.Would have to drill the shaft and set screw holes 
afterwards, and a bit of finish work to make them smooth.It's a cool panel so 
probably worth the effort if I can't find one out there somewhere...
Bob

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 1:27 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> Looks like a standard old Bakelite type knob to me. I pulled a lot from old 
> equipment 30 years ago. I will check to see if any got salvaged.
>
> Cindy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Bob 
> Rosenbloom via cctalk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 10:57 AM
> To: William Donzelli; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel
>
> On 5/28/2019 6:42 AM, William Donzelli wrote:
> > I think that is an IBM specific knob. I will keep an eye out for one,
> > but do not hold your breath! It is certainly not a common knob.
> >
> > Is it for a 1/4 inch shaft?
> >
> > --
> > Will
> Yes, it's a standard 1/4" shaft. Might try and get one 3D printed if I
> can figure out how to draw it.
>
> Bob
>
> > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:41 PM Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
> >  wrote:
> >> A long shot I know, but I'm looking for an IBM knob that's missing from
> >> a 609 calculator panel I have.
> >> Photos can be seen here:
> >>
> >> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl1.JPG
> >> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl4.JPG
> >> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl5.JPG
> >>
> >> I have no idea if the knob was made by IBM or was a common knob of the
> >> times.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> --
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Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
 

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 10:36:10 AM PDT, William Donzelli via cctalk 
 wrote:  
 
 Those knobs look like they are cast pop metal or zinc or something,
not Bakelite.

--
Will
They are metal for sure. Probably cast. They are smooth, though there's a bit 
of corrosion and pitting on them now.There's a set screw at the bottom of the 
back side. 
Dwight suggest casting one. I've never done casting before but this might be a 
good thing to try it on.Would have to drill the shaft and set screw holes 
afterwards, and a bit of finish work to make them smooth.It's a cool panel so 
probably worth the effort if I can't find one out there somewhere...
Bob

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 1:27 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> Looks like a standard old Bakelite type knob to me. I pulled a lot from old 
> equipment 30 years ago. I will check to see if any got salvaged.
>
> Cindy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Bob 
> Rosenbloom via cctalk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 10:57 AM
> To: William Donzelli; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel
>
> On 5/28/2019 6:42 AM, William Donzelli wrote:
> > I think that is an IBM specific knob. I will keep an eye out for one,
> > but do not hold your breath! It is certainly not a common knob.
> >
> > Is it for a 1/4 inch shaft?
> >
> > --
> > Will
> Yes, it's a standard 1/4" shaft. Might try and get one 3D printed if I
> can figure out how to draw it.
>
> Bob
>
> > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:41 PM Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
> >  wrote:
> >> A long shot I know, but I'm looking for an IBM knob that's missing from
> >> a 609 calculator panel I have.
> >> Photos can be seen here:
> >>
> >> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl1.JPG
> >> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl4.JPG
> >> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl5.JPG
> >>
> >> I have no idea if the knob was made by IBM or was a common knob of the
> >> times.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> --
> >> Vintage computers and electronics
> >> www.dvq.com
> >> www.tekmuseum.com
> >> www.decmuseum.org
> >>
>
>
> --
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> www.dvq.com
> www.tekmuseum.com
> www.decmuseum.org
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Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Those knobs look like they are cast pop metal or zinc or something,
not Bakelite.

--
Will

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 1:27 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> Looks like a standard old Bakelite type knob to me. I pulled a lot from old 
> equipment 30 years ago. I will check to see if any got salvaged.
>
> Cindy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Bob 
> Rosenbloom via cctalk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 10:57 AM
> To: William Donzelli; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel
>
> On 5/28/2019 6:42 AM, William Donzelli wrote:
> > I think that is an IBM specific knob. I will keep an eye out for one,
> > but do not hold your breath! It is certainly not a common knob.
> >
> > Is it for a 1/4 inch shaft?
> >
> > --
> > Will
> Yes, it's a standard 1/4" shaft. Might try and get one 3D printed if I
> can figure out how to draw it.
>
> Bob
>
> > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:41 PM Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
> >  wrote:
> >> A long shot I know, but I'm looking for an IBM knob that's missing from
> >> a 609 calculator panel I have.
> >> Photos can be seen here:
> >>
> >> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl1.JPG
> >> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl4.JPG
> >> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl5.JPG
> >>
> >> I have no idea if the knob was made by IBM or was a common knob of the
> >> times.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> --
> >> Vintage computers and electronics
> >> www.dvq.com
> >> www.tekmuseum.com
> >> www.decmuseum.org
> >>
>
>
> --
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> www.dvq.com
> www.tekmuseum.com
> www.decmuseum.org
>
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RE: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
Looks like a standard old Bakelite type knob to me. I pulled a lot from old 
equipment 30 years ago. I will check to see if any got salvaged.

Cindy

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Bob Rosenbloom 
via cctalk
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 10:57 AM
To: William Donzelli; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

On 5/28/2019 6:42 AM, William Donzelli wrote:
> I think that is an IBM specific knob. I will keep an eye out for one,
> but do not hold your breath! It is certainly not a common knob.
>
> Is it for a 1/4 inch shaft?
>
> --
> Will
Yes, it's a standard 1/4" shaft. Might try and get one 3D printed if I
can figure out how to draw it.

Bob

> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:41 PM Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
>  wrote:
>> A long shot I know, but I'm looking for an IBM knob that's missing from
>> a 609 calculator panel I have.
>> Photos can be seen here:
>>
>> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl1.JPG
>> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl4.JPG
>> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl5.JPG
>>
>> I have no idea if the knob was made by IBM or was a common knob of the
>> times.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> --
>> Vintage computers and electronics
>> www.dvq.com
>> www.tekmuseum.com
>> www.decmuseum.org
>>


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Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread dwight via cctalk
Hi Bob
 Even with 3d printing, you'd need to do some  sanding and shaping to make it 
look as clean as the original. I still think casing one is the best option. If 
the mold is right, it will even match the surface.
Dwight


From: cctalk  on behalf of Bob Rosenbloom via 
cctalk 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 8:57 AM
To: William Donzelli; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

On 5/28/2019 6:42 AM, William Donzelli wrote:
> I think that is an IBM specific knob. I will keep an eye out for one,
> but do not hold your breath! It is certainly not a common knob.
>
> Is it for a 1/4 inch shaft?
>
> --
> Will
Yes, it's a standard 1/4" shaft. Might try and get one 3D printed if I
can figure out how to draw it.

Bob

> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:41 PM Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
>  wrote:
>> A long shot I know, but I'm looking for an IBM knob that's missing from
>> a 609 calculator panel I have.
>> Photos can be seen here:
>>
>> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl1.JPG
>> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl4.JPG
>> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl5.JPG
>>
>> I have no idea if the knob was made by IBM or was a common knob of the
>> times.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> --
>> Vintage computers and electronics
>> www.dvq.com<http://www.dvq.com>
>> www.tekmuseum.com<http://www.tekmuseum.com>
>> www.decmuseum.org<http://www.decmuseum.org>
>>


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Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk

On 5/28/2019 6:42 AM, William Donzelli wrote:

I think that is an IBM specific knob. I will keep an eye out for one,
but do not hold your breath! It is certainly not a common knob.

Is it for a 1/4 inch shaft?

--
Will
Yes, it's a standard 1/4" shaft. Might try and get one 3D printed if I 
can figure out how to draw it.


Bob


On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:41 PM Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
 wrote:

A long shot I know, but I'm looking for an IBM knob that's missing from
a 609 calculator panel I have.
Photos can be seen here:

http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl1.JPG
http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl4.JPG
http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl5.JPG

I have no idea if the knob was made by IBM or was a common knob of the
times.

Thanks,

Bob

--
Vintage computers and electronics
www.dvq.com
www.tekmuseum.com
www.decmuseum.org




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www.dvq.com
www.tekmuseum.com
www.decmuseum.org



Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread dwight via cctalk
I've never seen one exactly like that before either. You might want to make a 
mold and create one that way.
Dwight


From: cctalk  on behalf of William Donzelli via 
cctalk 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 6:42 AM
To: Bob Rosenbloom; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

I think that is an IBM specific knob. I will keep an eye out for one,
but do not hold your breath! It is certainly not a common knob.

Is it for a 1/4 inch shaft?

--
Will

On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:41 PM Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> A long shot I know, but I'm looking for an IBM knob that's missing from
> a 609 calculator panel I have.
> Photos can be seen here:
>
> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl1.JPG
> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl4.JPG
> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl5.JPG
>
> I have no idea if the knob was made by IBM or was a common knob of the
> times.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
> --
> Vintage computers and electronics
> www.dvq.com<http://www.dvq.com>
> www.tekmuseum.com<http://www.tekmuseum.com>
> www.decmuseum.org<http://www.decmuseum.org>
>


Re: looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-28 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
I think that is an IBM specific knob. I will keep an eye out for one,
but do not hold your breath! It is certainly not a common knob.

Is it for a 1/4 inch shaft?

--
Will

On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 11:41 PM Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> A long shot I know, but I'm looking for an IBM knob that's missing from
> a 609 calculator panel I have.
> Photos can be seen here:
>
> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl1.JPG
> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl4.JPG
> http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl5.JPG
>
> I have no idea if the knob was made by IBM or was a common knob of the
> times.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
> --
> Vintage computers and electronics
> www.dvq.com
> www.tekmuseum.com
> www.decmuseum.org
>


looking for an old IBM knob from a 609 calculator panel

2019-05-27 Thread Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
A long shot I know, but I'm looking for an IBM knob that's missing from 
a 609 calculator panel I have.

Photos can be seen here:

http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl1.JPG
http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl4.JPG
http://dvq.com/ibm/ibm-609-pnl5.JPG

I have no idea if the knob was made by IBM or was a common knob of the 
times.


Thanks,

Bob

--
Vintage computers and electronics
www.dvq.com
www.tekmuseum.com
www.decmuseum.org