vaxstation ii machine check & diags efficacy

2019-06-19 Thread Joe Zatarski via cctalk
> It's a VAXstation II/GPX. I'm trying to install VMS 5.5 (from CD if it
matters; there is a CMD CQD-200 or -220 as the only storage controller) and
routinely getting machine check exceptions.
>
> Standalone backup always boots. Sometimes I get an exception the moment I
hit  on a restore; sometimes in the middle of the restore, sometimes
it runs to successful completion.
>
> VMS never boots. Sometimes I get as far as the date prompt (I took out
the battery), sometimes it gets a little farther, frequently it's before
anything appears on the console at all.
>
> The exceptions booting VMS occur the same if I attach another disk with
VMS 5.5 already installed; if I replace the KA630 and M7609 with a KA655
and M7622, it all seems to run fine.
>
> The KA630 power-on diagnostics all pass, but... it smells like a memory
fault to me. What are the odds there could be a memory fault that isn't
caught by the diags?
>
> ok
> bear.
>
> --
> until further notice

Well, if the KA630 diagnostics are anything like the KA650 diagnostics, the
power on self test is not too thorough as I learned. I found 10 bad DRAMs
on a KA650, the POST only found 2 of them. The rest I had to test by
running tests from the monitor with tighter parameters.

You should get into the console monitor on the KA630 and see if you can get
a list of tests to be run with the TEST command. Sometimes they have
parameters, and you can specify more thorough tests to be run. Keep in
mind, they may take considerably longer to run than the POST does.

I'm speaking from KA650 experience here, but I was able to run the MEM_Data
test on all of memory with an address increment of 1. It took about 4 or 5
hours to complete I think, for 8MB of RAM.


Re: vaxstation ii machine check & diags efficacy

2019-06-19 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 12:24 PM r.stricklin via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> It's a VAXstation II/GPX. I'm trying to install VMS 5.5 (from CD if it 
> matters; there is a CMD CQD-200 or -220 as the only storage controller) and 
> routinely getting machine check exceptions.
>
> Standalone backup always boots. Sometimes I get an exception the moment I hit 
>  on a restore; sometimes in the middle of the restore, sometimes it 
> runs to successful completion.
>
> VMS never boots. Sometimes I get as far as the date prompt (I took out the 
> battery), sometimes it gets a little farther, frequently it's before anything 
> appears on the console at all.
>
> The exceptions booting VMS occur the same if I attach another disk with VMS 
> 5.5 already installed; if I replace the KA630 and M7609 with a KA655 and 
> M7622, it all seems to run fine.
>
> The KA630 power-on diagnostics all pass, but... it smells like a memory fault 
> to me. What are the odds there could be a memory fault that isn't caught by 
> the diags?
>
> ok
> bear.

Maybe try running the MDM (MicroVAX Diagnostic Monitor) diagnostics
and see if they detect any issues that the power-on diagnostics do not
detect.

I have a bootable image of this version, which you should be able to
'dd' to a disk you can then attach to your CMD CQD-220,

uVDOS V4.0 built on 23-mar-1993  12:01

MicroVAX Diagnostic MonitorRelease 139   Version V5.0

  CONFIDENTIAL DIAGNOSTIC SOFTWARE
   PROPERTY OF
  DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION

   Use Authorized Only Pursuant to a Valid Right-to-use License

 Copyright (c) 1986, 1994
 Digital Equipment Corporation


vaxstation ii machine check & diags efficacy

2019-06-19 Thread r.stricklin via cctalk


It's a VAXstation II/GPX. I'm trying to install VMS 5.5 (from CD if it matters; 
there is a CMD CQD-200 or -220 as the only storage controller) and routinely 
getting machine check exceptions.

Standalone backup always boots. Sometimes I get an exception the moment I hit 
 on a restore; sometimes in the middle of the restore, sometimes it runs 
to successful completion.

VMS never boots. Sometimes I get as far as the date prompt (I took out the 
battery), sometimes it gets a little farther, frequently it's before anything 
appears on the console at all. 

The exceptions booting VMS occur the same if I attach another disk with VMS 5.5 
already installed; if I replace the KA630 and M7609 with a KA655 and M7622, it 
all seems to run fine.

The KA630 power-on diagnostics all pass, but... it smells like a memory fault 
to me. What are the odds there could be a memory fault that isn't caught by the 
diags?

ok
bear.

-- 
until further notice