Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 18 May 2017, Lyle Bickley wrote: I run BSD 2.9 on my 11/34C (w/max. mem.) & DZ using (2) RL02s with up to three TTY sessions. It's a bit "sluggish" (by today's standards). TSX I have a similar setup with our 11/34. 2.9BSD on one RL01 as root/swap, the rest (/usr etc.) on a RA80 (with t

bbs or crude facsimile of such

2017-05-19 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
When I got my first system running, S100, I had an Imsai 8080 with a Hayes 103 modem. I used it to log into multics and some BBS's at the time and record sessions and files and the like. I only had the usual 8" floppies, with eventually 1mb x 2 for storage. However, reason for mentioning was

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 18 May 2017 at 17:16, allison via cctalk wrote: > All a DOS BBS was was a user interface that provided security by requiring > user/password > and limiting the commands usable. The easy was to do that was a version of > the CMD module > rewritten to not have things like RMDIR and DEL. I was

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 18 May 2017 at 22:06, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > The plate on the back of my 11/93 says 345 Watts. That's about a fifth what > your > wifes hair dryer draws. Or slightly more than 3 100 watt light bulbs Jesus wept. Are you certain that this alleged "hair dryer" is not in fact a h

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 19 May 2017 at 00:22, Ed via cctalk wrote: > we ran ours first on a hp-2000 then migrated to a hp-3000 > > final version had 100 boards on it email , multi user chat, poll and > voting and much more. > yep it kicked ass! You'd think if you'd been online that long, you'd have worked out

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:25:44PM +0200, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> The plate on the back of my 11/93 says 345 Watts. That's about a fifth what >> your >> wifes hair dryer draws. Or slightly more than 3 100 watt light bulbs > Jesus wept. > Are you ce

RE: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of Peter Corlett via cctalk [cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 6:45 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: BBS software for the PDP 11 On Fri, May 19, 201

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 19 May 2017 at 13:36, Bill Gunshannon wrote: > Nope. Take a trip to Amazon and look at just how much power this stuff > actually consumes. And, if you go back to the days when we started > running this stuff in our homes, compare the draw of a QBUS PDP-11 to > a TV with a picture tube, standar

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:39:27AM +, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: [...] > But, seriously, just how many households do you think have made the move to > LED lighting? The amount of energy wasted in the average house, especially > those with wives and children (your wife never forget to tur

RE: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Thu, 18 May 2017, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: 8250 is a VAX, not a PDP-11. I doubt it even ran off of 120v single phase. Um, yeah. It did. I bought the machine for $500 from Mannesmann Tally in Kent, WA. A friend and I removed the 8250 from their machine room and transported it

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Fri, 19 May 2017, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On 18 May 2017 at 22:06, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: The plate on the back of my 11/93 says 345 Watts. That's about a fifth what your wifes hair dryer draws. Or slightly more than 3 100 watt light bulbs Jesus wept. Are you certain

Re: bbs or crude facsimile of such

2017-05-19 Thread John Labovitz via cctalk
Another BBS obscurity — I ran a BBS in the early 80s called The Bethesda RCP/M. Those of us who couldn’t afford dedicated lines often used a method called ‘ringback.’ This was a clever way to share a regular home phone with a modem. The idea was that if you wanted to dial up to the BBS, you’d c

Re: bbs or crude facsimile of such

2017-05-19 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Fri, 19 May 2017, John Labovitz via cctalk wrote: Another BBS obscurity — I ran a BBS in the early 80s called The Bethesda RCP/M. Those of us who couldn’t afford dedicated lines often used a method called ‘ringback.’ This was a clever way to share a regular home phone with a modem. The i

RE: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of Peter Corlett via cctalk [cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:13 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: BBS software for the PDP 11 On Fri, May 19, 201

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Christian Corti > I have a similar setup with our 11/34. .. It's not the fastest system, > and the kernel uses overlays like crazy ;-) ... I still have to add the > cache and FPP boards and see how that improves the performance. The cache should help some, but the FPP, pro

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2017-05-19 9:10 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote: On Fri, 19 May 2017, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On 18 May 2017 at 22:06, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: The plate on the back of my 11/93 says 345 Watts. That's about a fifth what your wifes hair dryer draws. Or slightly more than 3 100 w

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread allison via cctalk
On 05/19/2017 07:49 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > On 19 May 2017 at 13:36, Bill Gunshannon wrote: >> Nope. Take a trip to Amazon and look at just how much power this stuff >> actually consumes. And, if you go back to the days when we started >> running this stuff in our homes, compare the d

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 5/19/2017 3:23 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: On 18 May 2017 at 17:16, allison via cctalk wrote: All a DOS BBS was was a user interface that provided security by requiring user/password and limiting the commands usable. The easy was to do that was a version of the CMD module rewritten

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
So, if it's authenticity you want, you'll have to incorporate some sort of noise generator on the lines. Telco quality is much better today than 40 years ago (although you may not think so). I recall that calling Sunnyvale from Los Gatos (or vice-versa) was a real adventure in connectivity. Lo

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 5/19/2017 5:13 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: Anyway, for those of us in Amsterdam who can actually be bothered to find and hold down a job, go out and do the shopping, etc, we're replacing blown incandescents with LED bulbs because that's what they sell in the shops. Incandescent bulbs

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread ben via cctalk
On 5/19/2017 10:07 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: Remember a BBS with 1 modem is ruing at less (back then) than 1200 baud (120CPS!). Name one CPU that can't grab one byte and act on it in 8.333mS? The rest is enough storage to do a useful library (download and upload programs, and some for

Eunice BSD on TK50

2017-05-19 Thread Jason T via cctalk
I have here a shipping box, a shrink-wrapped TK50 tape and various docs for Wollongong Group's "EUNICE BSD," which I take to be a BSD Unix-like environment for VMS. I can't find a copy of either the docs nor the bits online. I will take care of scanning the docs. I would like to send this tape t

Re: Eunice BSD on TK50

2017-05-19 Thread Jason T via cctalk
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Jason T wrote: > I have here a shipping box, a shrink-wrapped TK50 tape and various > docs for Wollongong Group's "EUNICE BSD," which I take to be a BSD And for your entertainment, a very early Usenet post on the software: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/

RE: bbs or crude facsimile of such

2017-05-19 Thread Ali via cctalk
> At some point a version of BYE was created for the IBM PC, but as far > as I know, there was only a single release of it. > Any idea if the IBM version is available in an archive somewhere online? -Ali

RE: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of jim stephens via cctalk [cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 3:46 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: BBS software for the PDP 11 On 5/19/2017 5:13 AM

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 5/19/2017 7:01 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: And if you break one you have to call HAZMAT. You did realize that, didn't you? They contain mercury and any breakage requires professional remediation by law!! I bag and take to the disposal all fluorescent discard, including CFL. ht

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
My dad had some bills of 5 grand he told me but he was dialing out from a remote location in northern Manitoba that had only microwave said made huge difference when he went from 500 baud to 5000 On May 19, 2017 2:40 PM, "jim stephens via cctalk" wrote: > > > On 5/19/2017 3:23 AM, Liam Proven vi

Re: Commercial AIM-65 Video Controller?

2017-05-19 Thread dwight via cctalk
I don't believe the AIM-65 normally does color?? Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Kyle Owen via cctalk Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:08:32 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Commercial AIM-65 Video Controller? Any idea what thi

PDP Power Usage WAS: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Ali via cctalk
> ___ > The plate on the back of my 11/93 says 345 Watts. That's about a fifth > what your wifes hair dryer draws. Or slightly more than 3 100 watt > light bulbs (which your kids leave on all over the house all the > time!!) bill > > I run a similar PDP-11/83 syst

RE: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-19 Thread Mark Matlock via cctalk
As for power, if you have a wife and/or kids, a PDP-11's power > consumption is not even above the noise floor in your electric bill. > (Unless your trying to do it with RA disks!!) > > bill Out of curiosity how much power do these wee beasties consume? ___ The pl