Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/19/2018 10:45 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: 80186? I really thought it was 8x86 where the x was 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4. But looking at a picture of a CPU online I see that it was 8086, 80186, 80286, 80386, 80486. #TodayILearned "xcvb" is wrong. It's an 8086. ACK The BBC

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 12/19/18 9:56 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I've been following @foone's development of the Snood Bloober on Twitter. "Tube Time" is the developer of the adlib (now sold by the Russians on eBay) and the SnBl https://twitter.com/tubetimeus

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 2:21 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 12/19/18 9:56 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > >> I've been following @foone's development of the Snood Bloober on Twitter. > > "Tube Time" is the developer of the adlib (now sold by the Russians on eBay) > and the SnBl >

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
The Epson V850-Pro does pretty good at 8x10, and produces scans capable of being printed at about 30”x40”. I *WISH* I could scan my 11x14 negatives. To be able to do well requires either a vintage flatbed, or better yet a good Drum Scanner. Realistically, I need a good Drum Scanner, which in

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Nice  ps2  sash..   We  have  some  examples here but there are  things in these photos  I have  never seen!   One  thing we  have  I  am curious   about is a  large   oversize  IBM monitor monochrome  grey  screen ...   I wonder  what it  was  used  for...  aside  for a bigger  word processing

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/19/2018 08:20 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote: There's enough of a market to support folks building replicas of the Adlib sound card.  I've seen evidence of a Sound Blaster 1.0 replica - I think they called it the "Snood Bloober 1.0". I've been following @foone's development of the Snood

Re: Retarded ebay prices

2018-12-19 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
Is that a crazy price for something like that? The other ones that I have seen are in museums. Given what I got for my 11/750 in the condition that it was in a few years ago, the price on this doesn't seem bad to me. alan On 12/19/18 9:26 AM, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote:

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Zane -   thanks  for  reminder.  Yes  this  scanner    goes  scssi  to  a  large  cofax  processing  card that is  supposed  to  do  fast  working magic... but  die  to faster   PC and CPU  speeds  today  may not  be  really needed  or  will HANG!   We  do  use the  vuscan  for   use  with a 

Bluebox AVR boards still available

2018-12-19 Thread David Griffith via cctalk
I still have Bluebox AVR boards ready to ship out. -- David Griffith d...@661.org

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-12-19 2:33 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > On 12/19/18 2:21 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >> >> >> On 12/19/18 9:56 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: >> >>> I've been following @foone's development of the Snood Bloober on Twitter. >> >> "Tube Time" is the developer of the adlib

New takes on XT-IDE, a new FDC, and a new CM/S GAL WAS: RE: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Ali via cctalk
> > "Tube Time" is the developer of the adlib (now sold by the Russians > on eBay) and the SnBl > > https://twitter.com/tubetimeus Has anyone seen these before? They seem to be a new take (just a shrink down) of the XT-IDE and an FDC controller that supports single density (FM) and 2.88 ED

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
they already  do  have this,  output  state is a  tube...Ed# In a message dated 12/19/2018 12:59:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:   On 2018-12-19 2:33 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > On 12/19/18 2:21 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >> >> >> On

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/19/2018 12:33 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: when will someone be coming out with another sound card with a vacuum tube on it? I didn't know that there was such for a personal computer. That being said, I have seem pictures of hats for Raspberry Pis (and the likes) that do have

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 12/19/18 11:59 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > On 2018-12-19 2:33 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> >> when will someone be coming out with another sound card with a >> vacuum tube on it? >> >> bill >> > > Hm, I do have some 12AX7's lying around... Well, there have been PC

Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 4:14 PM, Jay Jaeger via cctech wrote: > On 12/18/2018 3:35 PM, Al Kossow via cctech wrote: >> >> >> On 12/18/18 12:38 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: >> Unfortunately I got no docs or media with this machine. And it appears all that is up on bitsavers are tape images?

Re: DG Nova 4 for pickup on Lon Gisland

2018-12-19 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 12/18/2018 3:35 PM, Al Kossow via cctech wrote: > > > On 12/18/18 12:38 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > >>> Unfortunately I got no docs or media with this machine. And it appears >>> all that is up on bitsavers are tape images? > > Everything DG related on bitsavers has been on

Re: Retarded ebay prices

2018-12-19 Thread Ulrich Tagge via cctalk
We had three HP250 Desks here in Germany over the last Years. They have found a new Home for approx. 200.- to 250.- Euro. This one is since months on my whatchlist, and the price is defnitly too high. We had also a VAX 11/785 incl. 9-Track Tape, VT100, RA Disk Drive, ... ... which was gone for

OT RE: 3D printer $179.99 (today ONLY) (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread Jay West via cctalk
Fred wrote... In addition, how hard would it be to 3D print some parts to turn it into a PLOTTER? --- I have not seen or done the below myself. But I have heard that there are plenty of conversion kits out there for 3d printers to do: As fred asked... https://tinyurl.com/y9d7sbwt Also... PCB

Re: 3D printer $179.99 (today ONLY) (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: That's the one you recommended for my microfiche scanning ;-) They just lowered the price ... In addition, how hard would it be to 3D print some parts to turn it into a PLOTTER? That's

RE: 3D printer $179.99 (today ONLY) (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of geneb via cctalk > Sent: 19 December 2018 22:17 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: 3D printer $179.99 (today ONLY) (Was: 8-Update > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > > On Wed,

Re: OT RE: 3D printer $179.99 (today ONLY) (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Jay West wrote: Some are casting metal parts by 3d printing molds. Besides printing molds, I have heard that there is now a filament available that can be melted out/away, for a variant of lost-wax [sandbox?] casting.

Re: OT - CNC - Re: 3D printer $179.99 (today ONLY) (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Dec 19, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk > wrote: > > Since talk has drifted to CNC, you can easily use this cheap North > American unit (Waterloo, Canada) for plotting -- it's one of their > demos. I'm tempted to get one for PCBs and other things. > > I'm not affiliated but the

Re: OT RE: 3D printer $179.99 (today ONLY) (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread Norman Jaffe via cctalk
There are also filaments that can be dissolved - they're mainly used for support structures, but could also be used for 'lost-wax' casting. From: "cctalk" To: "cctalk" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2:31:02 PM Subject: Re: OT RE: 3D printer $179.99 (today ONLY) (Was: 8-Update On Wed,

Re: TSC Assembler?

2018-12-19 Thread AJ Palmgren via cctalk
Bill, thank you for this thoughtful response. hand-punching is no small thing. That is amazing dedication, and from what I know of you, I am not at all surprised... Yes, it was absolutely an assembler for the 6800 processor. Thanks for mentioning the cassette for the Altair, that would be

Re: TSC Assembler?

2018-12-19 Thread AJ Palmgren via cctalk
Monty, thank you so much for this! I believe this is exactly what I was hoping to find. I'll report back once I get the right vintage machine set up to run these .dsk images, and see what they do... I think I can run them directly on my HXC floppy disk emulator, without having to write them to

OT - CNC - Re: 3D printer $179.99 (today ONLY) (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-12-19 3:46 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: >> That's the one you recommended for my microfiche scanning ;-) >> They just lowered the price ... > > In addition, how hard would it be to 3D print some parts to turn it into > a

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
Having worked at IBM “in the day”, the “official” reason (near as I could tell) was that IBM didn’t want to anthropomorphise computers. So it was never “memory”, it was always “storage”. So we didn’t have RAM or ROM, we had storage or ROS. Disks were called DASD. Main boards were called

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 4:27 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote: > Having worked at IBM “in the day”, the “official” reason (near as I could > tell) was that IBM didn’t want to anthropomorphise computers. So it was > never “memory”, it was always “storage”. So we didn’t have RAM or ROM, we > had

VueSCAN

2018-12-19 Thread Ali via cctalk
Does anyone know if old versions of VueSCAN worked on anything below XP (e.g. Win 9x, 2K or even gasp 3.x)? Thanks. -Ali

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/19/2018 02:29 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: And today, we have "Watson". That's a symptom of one of many things that have changed at IBM. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: VueSCAN

2018-12-19 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Dec 19, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote: > > Does anyone know if old versions of VueSCAN worked on anything below XP > (e.g. Win 9x, 2K or even gasp 3.x)? Thanks. > > -Ali I’d recommend asking Hamrick, I think they only make the current version of their software available, and

RE: New takes on XT-IDE, a new FDC, and a new CM/S GAL WAS: RE: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Ali via cctalk
>That FDC is not an XT-IDE, it's a copy of Sergey Kiesev's XT-FDC controller. >The same seller also saw fit >to "cost optimize" the open source XT-IDE rev 4 >and remove my copyright/site info. It's no great step >forward, it's merely a >copy of someone else's work with no attribution. I

RE: New takes on XT-IDE, a new FDC, and a new CM/S GAL WAS: RE: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Ali via cctalk
> > four drive support and addresses but given that most FDCs will not > > support FM this is a great step forward. ... > > SOME FDC will support FM. > SOME FDC can sorta do 128 byte sectors. Fred, SOME is not MOST ;). Yeah some will but if you were to pick up a generic 8bit FDC off of eBay

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 12/19/18 12:17 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > You'll get my vacuum tubes when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. sure thing, let me know when you croak 12AX7's are going for stupid money now

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Pretty sure that's the one. Got stuff piled on it at the moment so I can't read the model number. An inherent design problem with flatbed scanners! In the college

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 3:59 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> Pretty sure that's the one.  Got stuff piled on it at the moment >> so I can't read the model number. > > An

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-12-19 3:59 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> Pretty sure that's the one.  Got stuff piled on it at the moment >> so I can't read the model number. > > An

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-12-19 3:59 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> Pretty sure that's the one.  Got stuff piled on it at the moment >> so I can't read the model number. > > An

Vacuum Tubes, / Valves, funny money - was Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-12-19 3:57 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 12/19/18 12:17 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> You'll get my vacuum tubes when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. > > sure thing, > let me know when you croak > > 12AX7's are going for stupid money now > > > > I

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: I always liked the PS/2 cases. Just about every one I've seen is tool less down to, and sometimes including, the system planar (as IBM called it). Typically unreliable source (my uncle who worked for IBM) said that the reason that they

Vacuum Tubes, / Valves, funny money - was Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-12-19 3:57 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 12/19/18 12:17 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> You'll get my vacuum tubes when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. > > sure thing, > let me know when you croak > > 12AX7's are going for stupid money now > > > > I

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 3:03 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > they already  do  have this,  output  state is a  tube...Ed# I know there was one. I was waiting for the newer model. bill > > > In a message dated 12/19/2018 12:59:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: >

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 3:15 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 12/19/18 11:59 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: >> I do have some 12AX7's lying around... > > sell them > > > You'll get my vacuum tubes when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. bill

Re: New takes on XT-IDE, a new FDC, and a new CM/S GAL WAS: RE: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
That FDC is not an XT-IDE, it's a copy of Sergey Kiesev's XT-FDC controller. The same seller also saw fit to "cost optimize" the open source XT-IDE rev 4 and remove my copyright/site info. It's no great step forward, it's merely a copy of someone else's work with no attribution. The controller

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 12/19/18 11:59 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > I do have some 12AX7's lying around... sell them

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
OK  yea  Zane that is the  Epson scanner  I hear  so much  good  about!   I miss  my  sinar  had   4x5 5x7 and  8 x10  backs  (it  was the old orig  NORMA.    what a  beauty... when I started  comp  biz the  sale of that  . cant  complain     comp biz  ..  still have my speed graphic  and 

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
I’d like an 8x10 enlarger, but I don’t regret passing on the Elwood that turned up in the area about a year ago. It was in *sorry* shape. I do regret missing a Zone VI 5x7 in November. My main enlarger is a 4x5 Beseler. For 4x5 I’m using Horseman, for 8x10 Deardorff, and for 11x14 I have a

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On December 19, 2018 at 3:57 PM Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > On 12/19/18 12:17 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > > You'll get my vacuum tubes when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. > > sure thing, > let me know when you croak > > 12AX7's are going for stupid money now >

RE: 3D printer $179.99 today ONLY (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Jay West via cctalk wrote: Actually I misspoke when I said the ender 3 has design flaws. All of its flaws are in the execution of manufacturing, not in the design itself. Replace the extruder with an all-metal one instead of plastic (the plastic one cracked in a few weeks

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Dec 19, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2018-12-19 3:59 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department >> On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >>> Pretty sure that's the one. Got stuff

Re: Retarded ebay prices

2018-12-19 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
Well, if someone in the Puget Sound area has a HP250 desk that they would sell for the equivalent of 200-250 Euro, let me know and I will be over tomorrow to pick it up. All of this stuff is worth what someone will pay for it. All it takes is one person for that system to be worth 6000 Euro.

Re: New takes on XT-IDE, a new FDC, and a new CM/S GAL WAS: RE: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 12/19/18 12:10 PM, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote: > The controller chip used on that FDC is the same as found on some Adaptec > AHA-15xx series cards, which have been the go-to for a long time on adding > FM support to PCs whose onboard controllers don't support it. I don't think that's

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 12:51, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > > Realistically, computers made before around 2010 *are* antiques: something > where the main value is due to its age rather than its utility. Mostly, yup. When my laptop gave me some problems, start of 2017, I fired up my old

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
I wonder if I will face theses issuea with the cof ax scanner software and a megabux retired scanner we were gifted.. .. thing Is bw only.. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 Jason Howe via cctalk wrote: Indeed. Just this year, we pulled our Pentium Pro box off our

Re: TSC Assembler?

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Wed, Dec 19, 2018, 4:46 AM AJ Palmgren via cctalk Hi, all. > > Would anyone here happen to have access to the original early 80s binary > files to to run TSC Assembler? > > http://bit.ly/2rLsORe > > I'm looking for the vintage software that this document refers to: TSC > Floating Point

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread John Many Jars via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 11:51, Peter Corlett via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Realistically, computers made before around 2010 *are* antiques: something > where the main value is due to its age rather than its utility. > > I worked with "technicians" at HP 10 years ago who couldn't

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
> > Absolutely. No disagreement there at all. > > But because the kit is mysterious to them, they're willing to spend > money to get it and explore it. > > Same as people are now actively seeking late-era fast 486s and early > Pentium-era boxes, for Win9x gaming. A lot of games didn't make the >

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 22:08, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > > Cindy, I’m curious, is there really a market for 8086/88, 286, and 386 > computers? What are folks using them for? Judging from the FB "Vintage" Computer Club, yes, a small one. For millennial-age geeks, pre-32-bit computers are

TSC Assembler?

2018-12-19 Thread AJ Palmgren via cctalk
Hi, all. Would anyone here happen to have access to the original early 80s binary files to to run TSC Assembler? http://bit.ly/2rLsORe I'm looking for the vintage software that this document refers to: TSC Floating Point Package by Technical Systems Consultants. I know there's a fair number

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 11:31:47AM +0100, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: [...] > For millennial-age geeks, pre-32-bit computers are antiques. They _might_ > just barely remember back to Win9x. So for them, a DOS machine is a voyage of > discovery into some of the more arcane pages of history. The

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 22:42, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > I think PS/2s range from 286 - (very few) Pentium. I don't /think/ > there were any 8086 / 8088 PS/2s, but I could be mistaken. As "system_glitch" said, there were. The original model 30 was an 8086, and not even a great one --

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 12:03:56AM -0500, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > I repaired a Spectrometer for Morgan University in Baltimore that had a > vintage computer at its heart, used for training purposes and perfectly good. > The computer just needed some TLC to get it back up and running. I

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Stefan Skoglund via cctalk
tis 2018-12-18 klockan 14:41 -0700 skrev Grant Taylor via cctalk: > On 12/18/2018 02:08 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > > Cindy, I’m curious, is there really a market for 8086/88, 286, and > > 386 computers? What are folks using them for? > > I know that there is an active IBM PS/2

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Peter Corlett wrote: For what it's worth, PCI-to-ISA adaptors exist. Virtualisation will let you Really? Show me one that is 1) in current production, 2) offers the full ISA bus (not just some decoded address lines and 8 data lines), 3) plugs into a PCI slot. Christian

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 12:50:21PM +0100, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Peter Corlett wrote: >> For what it's worth, PCI-to-ISA adaptors exist. Virtualisation will let you > Really? Show me one that is 1) in current production, 2) offers the full ISA > bus (not just some

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 13:35, Bill Degnan wrote: > > 486 / early pentium computers have their own support challenges, both > hardware and software. The skills differ from the XT era PC clones and such. Yup. > This is definitely a vintage era of it's own, I call the GUI era to > differentiate

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2018-12-18 16:08, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > >> On Dec 18, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Electronics Plus via cctalk >> wrote: > Cindy, I’m curious, is there really a market for 8086/88, 286, and 386 > computers? What are folks using them for? There were some nice '386 and '486 machines out

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
> > > > > > The broader GUI vintage includes all Windows/MAC, Amiga, NeXT, SGI > desktops made for home use, > > >Whoah whoah whoah, what? > > >SGI made home computers?! > I knew people who had them at home, but expand my distinction into the home business desktop publishing people.Most

Re: Old HP stuff

2018-12-19 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
I would add any of the earlier HP 9810 9815 9820 9825 9830 9831 9835 9845 to that list. Paul. On 2018-12-19 10:54 AM, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: Thanks for all the replies! Based on the responses I got, this is the specific request list that I just emailed him: anything HP 1000

Re: TSC Assembler?

2018-12-19 Thread Monty McGraw via cctalk
Bill, Check out this website - he has lots of TSC and other 6800 software for the SWTPC and an emulator. http://www.evenson-consulting.com/swtpc/fufu_downloads.htm Monty McGraw (Tektronix 4052 and working 4054A computers) On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 5:44 AM Bill Degnan via cctalk <

Old HP stuff

2018-12-19 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
Thanks for all the replies! Based on the responses I got, this is the specific request list that I just emailed him: anything HP 1000 related is interesting. HP 2100, HP 21MX 2113 2117, A-Series A400 A600 A700 A900 A990, etc. are all 21MX/2100-series: HP 12908A Writable Control Store

Re: 3D printer $179.99 (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: If you are seriously considering getting one, consider: https://www.woot.com/category/computers?ref=w_gh_cp_5 That offer is for 24 hours! Just be aware that you get what you pay for. If anyone here would like to get into 3D printing, I'd

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: So yes, there is a little bit of demand, I reckon. Not highly commercial, though. There's enough of a market to support folks building replicas of the Adlib sound card. I've seen evidence of a Sound Blaster 1.0 replica - I think they called

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread xcvb via cctalk
-Original Message- >From: Liam Proven via cctalk >Sent: Dec 19, 2018 5:57 AM >To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" >Subject: Re: More old stuff incoming > >On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 22:42, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: >> >> I think PS/2s range from 286 - (very few)

RE: Old HP stuff

2018-12-19 Thread Jay West via cctalk
I could probably use one more period-correct HP rack if someone has one they need to go away. The HP mint gray ones, not the more modern beige/cream/white. J

Re: Old HP stuff

2018-12-19 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-12-19 9:54 AM, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > Thanks for all the replies! Based on the responses I got, this is the > specific request list that I just emailed him: > ... > I'd add: HIL *cables* of either the instrument or keyboard/mouse connector format. Also HP HIL ID boxes for

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Dec 19, 2018, at 3:51 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk > wrote: > > It's a nostalgia market, and the stuff that's peaking is when those who are > starting to hit their mid-life crisis are getting nostalgic for the stuff of > their youth. That's now the 1995-2005 era, and 16 and 32 bit

Re: 3D printer $179.99 (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: On 2018-12-19 10:05, geneb via cctalk wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2018, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: If you are seriously considering getting one, consider: https://www.woot.com/category/computers?ref=w_gh_cp_5 That offer is for 24 hours!

RE: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On December 19, 2018 at 12:33 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk > wrote: > > > There was a Tandy with an 80186, but I don't recall the model number. > Model 2000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tandy_2000 Will "He may look dumb but that's just a disguise." -- Charlie Daniels "The names of

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 18:23, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/19/2018 09:05 AM, xcvb via cctalk wrote: > > Tho ive seldom posted but have always read this list i cannot resist - > > somewhere stored away in my piles of stuff I have an IBM Model 30 I > > believe that has an 8 bit isa bus

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
The PS/2 collectors ... any internet foras for them ? I see quite a bit of activity in the comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware (and related) newsgroups. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Ethan via cctalk
Really? Show me one that is 1) in current production, 2) offers the full ISA bus (not just some decoded address lines and 8 data lines), 3) plugs into a PCI slot. Christian Surprised no one has used something like an ATMega or cheap USB connected ARM to build a USB to ISA adapter with tie in

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Dec 19, 2018, at 12:49 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk > wrote: > > I wonder if I will face theses issuea with the cof ax scanner software and a > megabux retired scanner we were gifted.. .. thing Is bw only.. With old scanners, always look at what the I/O interface is, and see if it’s a

Re: Off-Topic : RE: 3D printer $179.99 (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2018-12-19 11:35, Jay West via cctalk wrote: > The 3d printer I got was the creality ender 3 that is mentioned above. First, > you will not find a bad review for it, all the reviews are glowing. Most > reviews also say it's print quality and print-features are on-par with $1000+ > printers.

Re: Off-Topic : RE: 3D printer $179.99 (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread Comcast via cctalk
Also what drone did you buy? -Bob > On Dec 19, 2018, at 10:58 AM, emanuel stiebler via cctalk > wrote: > >> On 2018-12-19 11:35, Jay West via cctalk wrote: >> >> The 3d printer I got was the creality ender 3 that is mentioned above. >> First, you will not find a bad review for it, all the

RE: 3D printer $179.99 (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread Jay West via cctalk
Gene wrote... For what you're going to use it for, that's a good choice. I wouldn't recommend it as a printer though. ;) (The design isn't bad, but it's not a very newbie-friendly printer.) - Gene, you're just sore that the $175 ender 3 is comparable to a Prusa i3 Mk3 that costs

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
The PS/2 collectors ... any internet foras for them ? I know one, he hangs out on Vogons. Here's him talking about a haul of PS/2 stuff he got from me when I moved across country. https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=46=17341=8960#p445583 I do have PS/2 55Sx (which i do intend to run

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
FYI The PS/2 Model 30 (8530) is a 80C86 CPU. Same as the Model 25 (8525). b

RE: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
There was a Tandy with an 80186, but I don't recall the model number. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Grant Taylor via cctalk Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 11:23 AM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: More old stuff incoming On

RE: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: There was a Tandy with an 80186, but I don't recall the model number. Tandy 2000. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some

RE: 3D printer $179.99 (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Jay West via cctalk wrote: Gene wrote... For what you're going to use it for, that's a good choice. I wouldn't recommend it as a printer though. ;) (The design isn't bad, but it's not a very newbie-friendly printer.) - Gene, you're just sore that the $175

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2018-12-19 12:23, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department > I used to work at. An HP with a SCSI interface. Works great, > supported by SANE. I had an HP IIcx with ADF. (before I moved). Was great, scanned without paying

Re: 3D printer $179.99 (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2018-12-19 10:05, geneb via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2018, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> If you are seriously considering getting one, consider: >> https://www.woot.com/category/computers?ref=w_gh_cp_5 >> That offer is for 24 hours! >> > > Just be aware that you get what you pay

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 12/19/18 7:41 AM, Ethan via cctalk wrote: >> Really? Show me one that is 1) in current production, 2) offers the >> full ISA bus (not just some decoded address lines and 8 data lines), >> 3) plugs into a PCI slot. >> Christian > > Surprised no one has used something like an ATMega or cheap USB

Retarded ebay prices

2018-12-19 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/HP-250-Hewlett-Packard-Workstation-mit-optionaler-Ha rddisk-7910-SAMMLERQUALITAT/173303250279?hash=item2859adbd67:g:7r8AAOSw0dha7 dD8:rk:49:pf:0 Nice item, but crazy price! Located in Germany, only ships to the EU. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/19/2018 03:57 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: The original model 30 was an 8086, and not even a great one -- it didn't have true VGA, for instance. The original IBM PC / AT / XT didn't have VGA either. So that seems par for the generation of the processor. (At least as I understand

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/19/2018 04:09 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: Unless the software is really weird and relies on something weird like undocumented side-effects of the 286 CPU or 8 bit ISA DMA[0], this may be a way forwards to keeping it running when that crusty old Pentium finally croaks. I've run

Off-Topic : RE: 3D printer $179.99 (Was: 8-Update

2018-12-19 Thread Jay West via cctalk
Fred wrote >> If you are seriously considering getting one, consider: >> https://www.woot.com/category/computers?ref=w_gh_cp_5 >> That offer is for 24 hours! I've had dual time-sinks the past year, a 3d printer and a high end drone :) The 3d printer I got was the creality ender 3 that is

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
I too have an old spectrometer that requires a PC with an ISA slot, [Bomem MB series] and the interface card is ISA form.  It has been a challenge to find old PC's with an ISA slot, most are recycled for scrap.  The ones I have came from thrift stores, but now the thrift stores are reluctant

Re: More old stuff incoming

2018-12-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/19/18 11:15 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > >> On Dec 19, 2018, at 12:49 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> I wonder if I will face theses issuea with the cof ax scanner software and >> a megabux retired scanner we were gifted.. .. thing Is bw only.. > > With old scanners,

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