Re: PDP-11/60 manuals needed

2019-02-28 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 2/27/2019 1:37 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > Hi, does anyone have any PDP-11/60 manuals? I went to do articles on the > -11/60 and its CPU (KD11-K), but there isn't much online. > > Bitsavers has EK-KD11K-TD-PRE, but it only covers the maintenance features, > not the whole CPU; there

Re: PDP-11/60 manuals needed

2019-02-28 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/28/19 5:49 AM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote: > I don't see this manual on bitsavers, so let me know and I will scan it > in and stick it on my Google drive in a day or two or three where you > and Al could snag the scan. cool, one less thing for me to pull from the archive. all of the

Re: V6 cc needs hash before whitespace before first include?

2019-02-28 Thread Phil Budne via cctalk
> Anybody know what the story is there? It's an indicator that the pre-processor needs to be run first. The v6 code I've seen never used an include file for the stty/gtty calls (as opposed to using a struct defined in an include file) so I'm betting it was a speedup to not fork/exec another

Re: V6 cc needs hash before whitespace before first include?

2019-02-28 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Phil Budne > I'm betting it was a speedup to not fork/exec another process if it was > going to be a null transform! It's worse than that! In vanilla V6, the pre-processor is built into 'cc', not a separate command. Here's the relevant code (from expand()): if

Re: PDP-11/60 manuals needed

2019-02-28 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Jay Jaeger > I have EK-11060-OP-003: "PDP-11/60 installation and operation manual" > and an update EK-11060-OP-C1. Yeah, that's the one I referred to as "the general -11/60 manual"; generally, there's one such for all the -11 models, but the exact name varies from model to

Re: V6 cc needs hash before whitespace before first include?

2019-02-28 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Feb 28, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Phil Budne wrote: > It's an indicator that the pre-processor needs to be run first. Ah, okay! So that's a fun bit of V6 apocrypha. Was this gone by V7?

V6 cc needs hash before whitespace before first include?

2019-02-28 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
So, I've been having some fun playing around with V6 Unix on my 11/45 a bit after that last repair. I've just been tripped up for a little over the fact that the C compiler barfs if there is whitespace/comentary before the first #include; the workaround seems to be to add a lone '#' at the

Re: V6 cc needs hash before whitespace before first include?

2019-02-28 Thread Brian L. Stuart via cctalk
On Thu, 2/28/19, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: > I've just been tripped up for a little > over the fact that the C compiler barfs if there is > whitespace/comentary before the first #include; the > > I found this curious.  Anybody > know what the story is there? My recollection is that it's

eBay: RCA CDP1802

2019-02-28 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
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Re: HP 85 tapes

2019-02-28 Thread Martin Hepperle via cctalk
Christian, there is the document "9915-TapeDuplicationAndEPROMProgrammingSoftware-09915-10011-46pages-Jul83.p df" on the HP-.Museum web site. I think the associated software is not available, but it also uses the TAPDUP binary (pg. 1-2) and the same IMAGE program. The binary itself was part of