Re: HP 3000/37 console

On May 7, 2018, at 21:36, Mike Loewen wrote: > Does anyone know if a non-HP terminal will work as the console for a HP > 3000 Series 37? The power-on self-test uses ENQ/ACK to speed sense, but the > manual also implies that it will sense speed from a . On my 37, the TIC > self-test passes

Re: Old newsreader source code

On May 8, 2018, at 9:23, Seth Morabito wrote: > I'm experimenting with setting up UUCP and Usenet on a cluster of 3B2/400s, > and I've quickly discovered that while it's trivial to find old source code > for Usenet (B News and C News), it's virtually impossible to find source code > for old

Re: Unknown CDC unit , looks like a drum memory ?

On May 17, 2018, at 11:47, Fred Cisin wrote: > > On Thu, 17 May 2018, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: >> yep we see them but we did not type them intentionally > > https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/06/13/we/ > >> may way to adjust your mail reader reader as they do not show up in >>

Re: HP Series 9000 early 1980’s computer hardware

The 9000 Series 500 is very different from later 9000s. I don’t think there more than one speed of CPU, although there was an early and later CPU with the later CPU having a floating-point unit onboard. What you get out of a 9000 Series 550 over a Series 520 (aka 9020) is mostly more I/O

Re: HP Series 9000 early 1980’s computer hardware

On May 17, 2018, at 15:48, Warner Losh wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Frank McConnell via cctalk > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > HP-UX for them is very interesting from a historical perspective in that the > Unix kernel is a complete rewrite. It is hosted on t

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

> On Jan 18, 2018, at 9:27, Grant Taylor via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > On 01/17/2018 01:12 PM, Frank McConnell via cctalk wrote: >> So here's a real example: I have an HP 3000 Micro GX with MPE G.A3.09 >> (V-delta-9) which is very 1990. And

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

> On Jan 18, 2018, at 9:39, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > On 01/17/2018 11:33 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: >> E.g. it probably only supports class A addresses, for instance, which is >> going to influence the code for picking the first-hop router. > > I was

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

> On Jan 17, 2018, at 10:18, Warner Losh via cctalk > wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=BBN-V6 >> >> (The latter includes NCP as well as TCP/IP.) >> >

Re: Searching for Sun2 and Sun3 bits and bobs- a long-running project approaches completion!

On Feb 24, 2018, at 18:57, Ian wrote: > > Glen, thanks for the response. > > The keyboard I’m looking for which I need for the 2/120 looks like this: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/alanc/4013376694/in/photostream That is a Sun Type 2 keyboard. > Part #: 540-1006-01 > > It terminates with a

Re: looking for a mother board for a hp 3000-37

On Feb 25, 2018, at 21:57, Jerry Wright wrote: > Anyone have such a piece or know someone that might. > > Board number is 30457-60001 > Might take the whole thing if the price is right. "mother board" is not how I would describe that part number. That is the CPU PCA and is one of several

Re: Oddball Terminals (Was: Re: VT100's)

On Sep 7, 2018, at 12:00, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > interesting.. the vt71t has inverted-T cursor keys And CAPS LOCK in the home row to the left of the A key. The VT220 made it w-i-d-e. Can we now fix the blame for the two of the three worst ideas in computer keyboard design on

Re: SunOS 2.4 Expliot (Re: Old Sparcstations

On Dec 6, 2018, at 10:39, Jeffrey S. Worley wrote: > The Sparcstation 4/330 I reworked the NVRAM chip on…. > I wanted root. Was there something in the way of you booting single-user? I am thinking Suns of that era let you into a boot ROM (via BREAK on serial console, or L1+A on Sun keyboard

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

On Nov 25, 2018, at 15:44, Sean Conner wrote: > I even heard of a high school in Tennessee who said computer languages > fulfill the "foreign language requirements" ... who'da thunk? I have been told that in the 1960s taking a course in FORTRAN programming fulfilled the foreign language

e-mail, character sets, encodings (was Re: George Keremedjiev)

Very old mail programs indeed have no understanding whatsoever of character sets or encoding. They simply display data from the e-mail file on stdout or equivalent. If you are lucky, the character set and encoding in the e-mail match the character set and encoding used by your terminal. The

Re: Portable terminals

On Sep 10, 2018, at 12:18, Al Kossow wrote: > As sad as it sounds, I'm thinking now it may make sense to gut the > electronics and just use the case, lcd > and kb to make a dumb terminal. At least then you don't have to screw around > with serial dongles. This makes me wonder how much serial

Re: Looking for: 68000 C compilers

On Feb 12, 2019, at 14:16, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 2:55 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 10:08 AM Phil Pemberton via cctalk >> wrote: >>> Does anyone have copies of any of the following -- or any other C

Re: HP/UX 8 and hosts vs DNS

On May 26, 2019, at 21:09, Cameron Kaiser wrote: > I've been doing more work on my 9000/350 now that I have actual space to > do work on it in. Although the 10b2 is flaky, I can usually coax it to work. > > However, the damn thing won't query DNS even though I have a populated > /etc/resolv.conf.

Re: Hewlett Packard 2601A Printer

On May 29, 2019, at 11:33, Glen Slick wrote: > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 9:58 PM MEBA via cctalk wrote: >> >> I have an old daisy wheel printer by Hewlett-Packard, their 2601A. We got >> this from an estate cleanout and I would like to sell it. It has been >> powered up and the power light

Re: VMS versions

On May 6, 2019, at 15:48, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, May 6, 2019, 5:17 PM Zane Healy wrote: >> >> It would be nice to see this through 8.4-2L1 (I think that’s the latest >> version). >> >> Zane >> > > There used to be an article about OpenVMS release history, naturally

Re: MPE release history (was: Re: VMS versions)

On May 6, 2019, at 23:11, r.stricklin via cctalk wrote: > On May 6, 2019, at 5:02 PM, Frank McConnell via cctech wrote: >> Likewise, there used to be an article about MPE release history. Links I >> know for it are: >> >>

Re: MPE release history (was: Re: VMS versions)

On May 8, 2019, at 1:07, David Collins via cctalk wrote: > > The HP Computer Museum website now has a link to the version history file > referenced below. > > http://www.hpmuseum.net/exhibit.php?content=3000-MPE%20(Software) > > Happy to update it if there is more info or corrections.

Re: I'm sharing a toy

On Aug 7, 2019, at 22:18, Adam Thornton wrote: > > https://mvsevm.fsf.net > > Currently, the TOPS-10 guest account (42,42) and the Unix v7 account dmr have > no passwords. > > Please treat the dmr account respectfully. > > I will get to account requests…eventually, probably. TImeliness is

Re: I'm sharing a toy

On Aug 8, 2019, at 16:52, Zane Healy wrote: > > On Aug 8, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Frank McConnell via cctalk > wrote: >> One of the things I have found with the Pi is, the low end micro SD cards >> (P*tr**t and K*ngst*n would match the ones that did this) are los

Re: Scanning question

On Jul 18, 2019, at 14:50, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > So, I have a bunch of old DEC Rainbow docs that aren't online. I also have > a snapscan scanner that I use for bills and such. I do this kind of thing, with a ScanSnap S1500M (M means Mac), but mostly don't mind that the process is

Re: phone systems, old and less-old

On Sep 18, 2019, at 11:32, jwest--- via cctalk wrote: > > I know some peeps here are phone pholks…..See www.ezwind.net/phonestuff > > > > > One is an old “bell system western electric”. It seems to have a few 66 > blocks just under the cover, a power

Re: HP3000/917LX available in Vacaville

On Sep 29, 2019, at 7:48, David Collins wrote: > “3000-L” ? Is that another group? Different from this one. hp300...@raven.utc.edu, emphasis on the “3000-L” part. LISTSERV Web page with desciption and archives at . Has been around longer

Re: HP vintage boards being sold as scrap - WON

On Sep 29, 2019, at 19:32, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: > > At 10:03 PM 27/09/2019 -0500, JRJ wrote: >> Thanks for the tip. (Part of not recognizing that is that I had never >> made the connection between the 2108B/2112B and the "1000" series >> before, until I read about it in this thread, and

Re: Question about modems

On Nov 13, 2019, at 6:40, allison wrote: > > On 11/13/19 9:17 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote: >> On Wed, 13 Nov 2019, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: >> >>> Did Hayes modem really do that? I thought most later modems self >>> detected parity and speed and thus would have switched both the comm >>> on

Re: Question about modems

On Nov 13, 2019, at 10:41, Nigel Johnson wrote: > > > On 13/11/2019 13:36, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> There are other "oddball" combinations, such as 8E1 and 8O1, which sends >> a 9-bit data frame. You can see datasheets on some UARTs as well as MCU >> UARTs that support the 9 bit packet.

Re: 3270 controller simulation

On Nov 18, 2019, at 16:42, Al Kossow via wrote: > On 11/18/19 4:37 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >> >> >> On 11/18/19 3:15 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: >>> I have some old boards and documentation for Unibus cards that would talk >>> X.25, BISYNC and I think SNA. Any value? >> >> yes, it

Re: Larry Tesler - Computer Pioneer

On Feb 20, 2020, at 20:52, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote (after Murray McCullough): >> Heard of death today of Larry Tesler > > Does ANYONE bother to read the list before posting? Am thinking of LISTSERV, which includes a SET NOMAIL option to save one the trouble. Wonder if you can do that with

Re: HP 9000 Series 360 Thin LAN

On Feb 21, 2020, at 10:19, Roger Addy via cctech wrote: > I am using an HP 9000 Series 360 with a "Thin LAN" coax card to run a piece > of equipment. The LAN connection is not currently being used. I'm wondering > if it's possible to connect it to a modern ethernet network? If so, what >

Re: HPIB HDA low-level format?

On Dec 29, 2019, at 17:59, r.stricklin via cctalk wrote: > Is there a way to get an HP-IB disk unit with an ST412 or ESDI type HDA > inside to perform a low-level format? > > I think this is what 'mediainit' is maybe supposed to do (based on being able > to change the interleave) but I don't

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

On Mar 11, 2020, at 8:08, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote (after Ethan O'Toole I think): >> Years ago us SGI hobbyists were able to talk to SGI about this and a huge >> problem SGI had with any kind of hobbyist >> license for IRIX or turning it free is it's fully of licensed 3rd party >> stuff. But

Re: Scanning incomplete and updated documents

On Apr 17, 2020, at 9:02, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > As I noted, the two sets of appendices are mostly completely different. There > are 9 appendices that look like they are from the primary document and 5 that > look like they are from inserted pages. Both sets start numbering from "A". >

Re: Scanning incomplete and updated documents

On Apr 16, 2020, at 23:37, J. David Bryan wrote: > On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 23:18, Frank McConnell wrote: > >> Sometimes I have come across shrink-wrapped manuals and later updates, >> and scanned them as found. I wouldn´t want to deny other people the >> opportunity to apply updates to

Re: Scanning incomplete and updated documents

On Apr 16, 2020, at 21:32, J. David Bryan via cctech wrote: > > On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 8:52, Alan Perry via cctech wrote: > >> 1. One document is a software installation manual in a loose leaf >> binder with other documents. It has a title page, tables of contents, >> etc., several

Re: Microsoft C 6.0 manuals

On Oct 7, 2020, at 8:29, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > On 10/7/20 7:23 AM, Tomas By via cctalk wrote: >> On Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:18:15 +0200, wrote: >>> Would then not be on MSDN cds from around that time? >> >> >> I don't think so. I did spend some effort to locate on of those that I >>

Re: Notes on HP3000 WCS Microcode, Series 37 on ebay in Germany

On Sep 16, 2020, at 5:30, Rodney Brown via cctalk wrote: > > HP 3000 Series 37 on ebay in Germany (7954A, 9144AR, 30457A, 700/92 (German > keyboard)) > > https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HP-3000-Series-37-Computer-System-RETRO-SELTEN-RARE-ca-1985-1987/283988656899 > > Thanks to David Collins at the

Re: Notes on HP3000 WCS Microcode, Series 37 on ebay in Germany

On Sep 16, 2020, at 13:21, J. David Bryan via cctalk wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 8:19, Lee Courtney via cctech wrote: > >> Al - it would be a Very Good Thing to get those APL ROMS dumped when >> possible. > > It would be good as well to dump the Series III main instruction

Re: Exploring early GUIs

On Sep 17, 2020, at 19:18, Michael Kerpan wrote: > Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering: > how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or emulated at all)? I > know that there are more or less functional emulations of Alto, Star, and > Lisa out there, but

Re: Dilithium Press (Computer Books)

On Jul 14, 2020, at 10:21, Vincent Slyngstad via cctalk wrote: > > On 7/14/2020 6:53 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > > Out of curiosity, does anyone know anything about this publisher? They > > apparently existed in the late 70’s and early 80’s. They were apparently > > located in

Re: Location of ARPANET Protocol Handbook or its successor, online

On Jul 2, 2020, at 18:55, s shumaker via cctalk wrote: > NTRL has 3 published versions listed with two available as pdf downloads; > > go here and search on the author name > > https://ntrl.ntis.gov/NTRL/ > > Steve Searching on author Feinler confirmed my recollection of a successor document,

Re: Location of ARPANET Protocol Handbook or its successor, online

On Jul 2, 2020, at 19:49, Will Senn via cctalk wrote: > > On 7/2/20 9:38 PM, Frank McConnell via cctalk wrote: >> On Jul 2, 2020, at 18:55, s shumaker via cctalk wrote: >>> NTRL has 3 published versions listed with two available as pdf downloads; >>> >>>

Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

On Jun 16, 2020, at 23:27, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020, Doug Jackson wrote: >> We could consider moving to Google groups hosting. > > No... no no no no no. Never. > Either become a (real) NNTP group or stay as a mailman list. Oh good, here comes the discussion of

Re: HP 3000 series 30/33

On Jan 16, 2021, at 10:07, grant via cctech wrote: > > Working to restore a series 30 , looking for any spare boards ,cpu ,bic > boards from a series 30/33Just putting it out there ,long shot i > knowCheers,Grant Sent from my Galaxy CPU is 30070-69003 (-60003) BIC is 31000-69053 (-60053)

Re: when was memory "above" the terminal screen invented?

On Dec 13, 2020, at 18:37, Stan Sieler wrote: > > Hi, > > First, apologies if I asked this years ago (I've searched my archives, no > hits :) > > When was the concept of memory "above" the screen invented for terminals? > > I.e., previously displayed data that had scrolled up and off the

Re: Just curious how many Hewlett-Packard Integral computers were sold. We have one here at the SMECC Museum that we are building a display around it for.

On Jan 30, 2021, at 10:09, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > Hi Doug! No, we do not have a copy of this HP JOURNAL. We do not have > manuals either. We,are lucky to have the unit wonder if you can still order > ink for the printer. I do have an unopened ink cartrige. HP 51604A. I was surprised