Ian wrote...
This is more sad to me:
https://www.reddit.com/r/retrobattlestations/comments/3i1rk5/turned_it_into_a_time_server_and_binary_clock/
It looked mint.
That's... just :(
J
Yep, I was the one that scored that SYM-1 and accessories for $40 :)
Pictures at https://www.flickr.com/photos/131070638@N02
Just arrived, have yet to power it up as I'm busy with DG projects (next
email!) :)
J
Pictures of the S/130 system I'm building up are at
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131070638@N02
I think the last I posted here... the cpu was up and running, that was the
first piece I refurbished. I took everything out of the rack and cleaned
that up well, and the cpu has been remounted there.
Y
I found a company selling new 8" 32-sector hard sector floppies.
http://www.athana.com/html/diskette.html Item # 47-0801
They want $150 per box of 10. That's a pretty hefty pricetag... but in the
absence of other suppliers I may just have to break down and buy a box from
them.
J
Henk wrote...
>Great series of pictures Jay!
Thanks! Most of those pics are "so I don't forget where wires go", but some
of them are presentable :)
>After more than a year on a desk, I mounted the 6125 tape drive in the top
of the rack with its power supply on the right side next to it.
I went to
Shadoo wrote...
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Then I developed a tool to connect it to PC via serial, using the console
port; this tool is somehow similar to VTserver for PDP11 realm, but more
expandable.
Basically, you can do memory transfers between Nova and PC (both
directions), and execute almost *ANY* I/O instru
Henk wrote...
--
On the right vertical post of the rack you mount two hinges. Each hinge has
a pin that simply goes through a hole of the vertical post, and one screw.
--
Yep, I got the installation instructions in the manual, which are
wonderfully detailed WRT rackmounting. You may not hav
Henk wrote...
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Yup, I mounted the 6125 in the top of the rack. The thought indeed did not
occur that you can screw the pin in the metal hinge from the *bottom* side.
I removed the top plastic part with the Data General text (top cover) to get
the clearance space needed to hang the drive on the
Perhaps my google skills are challenged (probably so), but I can't find
this.
Is there a modern source of nut bars that one could order with specific
thread size and # of holes (NEMA pattern)? Yeah, I know I'm being OCD and
can just use individual nuts. But after you keep losing a handful of
stand
HAH!
The DG documentation does call them "Nut Bars" :P
"threaded rail" seems to be something different according to google, but it
yields "threaded insert" which is close if not exact. Still googling...
Thanks!
J
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On
Cindy wrote...
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Are the one you want made by Accuride perhaps?
http://www.accuride.com/media/1975/rackmountaccessories_pdf_3.pdf
They call them "bar nuts" :-)
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BINGO! That's the ones :) Thanks Cindy!!
Dwight wrote
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I'd makes some slight changes if I did it again.
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How about support for 8"? ;)
J
I have two "flippy organizers" (that's around 20 floppies each) full of
these oddball floppies.
Picture at
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131070638@N02/22020178558/in/dateposted/
They are 8", hard sectored, and the sectors are on the outer edge rather
than the hub, and there is an odd cutout on on
We need to be able to do 32 sector 8" floppies :)
J
Dave wrote...
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I think that the switches can be found, but they might be expensive.
--
But as Noel wrote... the problem isn't the CK switches as far as the "model
number" on them goes. They can be found pretty easy. The problem is that CK
switches used in these systems were custom made wi
Rod;
It's not just the dec folks. I have a DG box that I'd REALLY like to get a new
(plexiglass, but thinner and more flexible) panel done for. I'd imagine it's
silkscreening
And I know of at least one other DG person looking for the same...
J
I should also add if people are talking about reproducing DEC switch
handles (the plastic covers)... I would love to get spares for my DG gear so
whatever process works for the dec ones may be helpful there.
J
Ethan wrote...
> Do the DG handles have the same problems as DEC switch handles?
> (fragile pivots that break off)
To which Christian replied...
Only the 16-bit Eclipse family, and they're really not that fragile -- you sort
of have to work to break them.
Ethan - Yes. They have the exa
Ben wrote...
Bring in the Gorillas. :)
Other than bootstrapping, switches tend to sit idle.
Guess it's all what you're doing. I use the front panels *A LOT* on all my
machines. A completely missing switchcover, or a broken switch, would be far
more than just an inconvenience to me at
Ethan wrote...
Looking at your picture, I'd say that is not identical to any DEC switch handle
I know of.
Yeah, I couldn't remember what system it was... but when I first took apart a
DG front panel and looked at the plastic switch covers, I *KNOW* I remember
that I had worked on som
Vince wrote...
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In addition, the pivot heads seem to have been spread with some sort of heat
process, so it is virtually impossible to remove the handle without breaking
off the pivots.
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I should point out... so far I've had about six or eight switch covers on
various eclipse machines
I received the email below, thought I'd pass it on...
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Dear J West,
I am writing to inform you about an article I have created about Quantum
Link, an online service that was available in the US & Canada from 1985 to
1994.
https://www.tinytickle.co.uk/quantum-link/
Quantum Link, originally a
I've been away from DEC stuff far too long, so I don't remember what this is
called - but I'll describe it.
The beige dec cabinets (corp cab?) that are wider than about 19 inches...
the ones where there is the "normal" 19" rack and then to the left or the
right there is a top to bottom, front to b
Glen wrote...
On my cabinet the panel on the left is about 36 inches tall. It's also beige,
not brown, but it does have the hex key fastener at the top of the panel.
I am not sure, been too many years, but I think the cover on the front (which
went with the cabinet) was beige, and what I have co
This came up a few months ago here, and I asked for it to be taken to private
email. Not sure why it resurfaced again (nor do I wish an explanation for
it)... let's just keep this topic in private email please.
J
It was written...
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Doesn't look like any software can be downloaded. It was hosted on a FTP site.
Archive.org doesn't do FTP. :(
Does anyone happen to have a copy of ftp://omen.com? There were a few things I
would have liked.
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Yeah, already looked at doing that. When I hear about a sit
Anke wrote
> If there is any interest, I can post announcements for those events in
> advance.
Anke - please feel free to post any classic computer related events on this
list!!
J
Yep, I purchased a couple boxes of 8" HS floppies, I think you were going to
contact me off-list. In any case... send me the current version and I'll give
it a whirl.
J
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of shad
Sent: Thursday, November
Jim;
I'd be happy to host the entire site on the classiccmp, both website and ftp
site - gratis.
I was going to contact them and also discuss sale - depending on price I'd
be willing to pick it up.
In any case, please contact me off-list to arrange a game plan.
J
-Original Message-
Fro
Because it may be timesensitive, I contacted her and offered to pay for data
recovery of the drive, and other items. Will post whatever I hear.
J
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ali
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 8:04 AM
To: 'General Di
Jim wrote (re: Omen)
--
Thanks, Jay.
Really appreciate your help.
Thanks
Jim
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I don't want to publicly post too much that was in private email, but will
try to provide some general info and there's not much more I can say:
There are both (mostly) hardware and (some) password issues as t
Apologies, not sure how that got through.
Maybe a listmember got address-book-malware. Will see if the headers reveal
anything that is easy to spot.
J
I think bitsavers is the best spot for that type of thing.
But if for whatever reason Al doesn't wish to, I'd be happy to put them at:
http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/
in the RT11 directory.
There are already files and distributions of interest there.
J
Never saw one like this, but the chassis/cabinet doesn't look really
homebrew to me
https://post.craigslist.org/k/drQqW-KK5RG4d-7uD34-Xw/vi2lh?s=preview
J
Ah, one of the top ten topics that keeps resurfacing periodically.
I initially suggested adding the list name to the subject, and the strong
sentiment from the group was not to add it.
The pros and cons seem to be a bit of a religious war. And from time to time
someone (re)suggests this and the w
Ed# wrote...
COMBINE THEM THEN JUST ADD TWO LETTERS AND A DASH AS THUS
CC-
No.
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
> DO NOT THINK I CAN MAKE THE AOL MAIL FILTER THAT WAY..
Shark Jumped
I have a board from a HP 7914 disc drive (07914-60001). No clue how I
obtained it, as I've never owned a 7914 (but did have a hard luck case 7912,
which is long gone). In any case... free for shipping if anyone wants it.
J
I'm looking for a modern storage (ie. anywhere from 100mb to "huge") device
for an 11/44. I think I have seen a few hobbyist projects that were flash
based, I thought I saw one that was an IDE interface
Long story short I've satisfied the purist in me by putting an RL02 on the
machine, but tha
Alas... I have no scsi cards for any of my dec gear. I was hoping for a CF
based device that plugs straight into the unibus... or similar solution...
J
Ed wrote
ok pretty interesting but no driver for access-2000unfortunately !
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You could write it.
The paper tape emulator there needs no drivers. I have one, and it works
incredibly well (on HP2000 as well as every other environment).
As to the ide disk emulator... there
I'm doing some work today and possibly over the next few days related to ftp
services on the classiccmp server. Expect some squirrelyness over today
and/or through the weekend.
Also, since semi-retirement is now here... there will be some work finally
getting started on things related to classiccm
FTP on the classiccmp server should now be working more reliably for passive
mode. You may have to use "ftp.classiccmp.org" as opposed to your own DNS
name that may be hosted there.
Please test and advise me off-list if you still have any issues.
J
ovember 27, 2015 2:04 PM
To: gene...@classiccmp.org; discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic
Posts
Subject: Re: classiccmp work
Thank you for the link.
Is "anonymous" login enabled on your FTP server?
Or do we require a login before we can access the site?
Thank you,
Jerry
On 11/27/15
We do make a LOT of stuff available that is put up via ftp (privately, by
myself or a few others), but it's always been available via http not ftp.
It is also possible that many of the people who have their website hosted on
the classiccmp server are making stuff available via ftp, and I wouldn't
FYI - in the not too distant future I'm going to get back to my 8E rig. I'll
be pulling out the TU10/TM11(unused, obviously) from the second cabinet and
putting in an RX01 and RK05, and hopefully connecting up the TU56 and PC04
that are in the main cabinet.
In any case, my goal is to run ETOS on t
Ed wrote...
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when I was young in the computer biz wanted to build a timeshare 8
system..
however ended up going down the HP route instead for the rest of my
career .
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You chose the better path for a timesharing system *ducks & runs*
J
Rick wrote
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I'd *LOVE* to be able to have a real-hardware HP Timeshared BASIC system
running here, but alas, those are a lot harder to come by than DEC stuff
---
Contact me off-list :)
J
Johnny wrote...
Fun stuff. However, I do not expect you'll see much impovement in performance
in ETOS compared to MULTOS.
You'll gain if you have code that do CIF n, followed by much code before the
JMP/JMS, but that is not exactly a common pattern in most P
Glen wrote...
--
If you have a 2113B and a 2117F could you use those as a base? What are the
magic parts? Some special and rare interconnect boards? And a special and rare
async mux? And particular disc requirements?
--
2113/2117 - yes.
Off the top of my head
For 2000E, you can get
Noel wrote.
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So I know someone who has a working 11/34 (4 RLO2's and the 11/34 in an
H960, running RSTS/E) they want to sell, and they want to know how to
maximize the value - i.e. whether to sell it as a complete working system,
or to part
Will wrote...
>Also, keep in mind that the membership of this list (especially the active
>members) is just a small fraction of the computer collector community.
Eh, I'm fairly sure that a somewhat sizeable percentage of the people in the
hobby most definitely DO wind up subscribing here.
J
at 12:35 PM, Jay West wrote:
> Will wrote...
>>Also, keep in mind that the membership of this list (especially the active
>>members) is just a small fraction of the computer collector community.
>
> Eh, I'm fairly sure that a somewhat sizeable percentage of the p
f the list?
--
Will
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Jay West wrote:
> Will wrote...
>>Also, keep in mind that the membership of this list (especially the active
>>members) is just a small fraction of the computer collector community.
>
> Eh, I'm fairly sure that a some
Will wrote...
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I think your slice of the pie just got smaller in my mind.
The community is a lot bigger than you realize. A wild guess might be in the
few thousands by now.
This is not a slam, just an observation.
Once cctalk and cctech are recombined, I suspect it will be a siz
Chris wrote...
> I've got 13,000 on RetroBattlestations and I doubt very many of them know
> about the cctalk mailing list.
To which Will replied...
>Wow, that is impressive. However, I suppose much of the PeeCee crowd really
>does not integrate well with cctalk, and that is fine.
Yep, 13,000 i
Ed#wrote
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bah! sacrilege!
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While I understand the sentiment c'mon... Noel presented clear and
reasonable request to forgo the judgement and assist him. Let's not
degenerate to "oh, the horrorr".
J
It was written
--
Would be nice if more of you people with Kewl Machines posted pictures on
there!
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"Kewl" machines? Yeah, keep that traffic elsewhere.
J
Mike write...
Sorry to bust in this post but I have read the page where I sighned up and
well.. How do to make a post and not just reply to others? Again sorry for the
off-topic question...
This (as well as subsequent post) were handled off-list.
J
Please make an effort not to top-post :|
J
Drlegendre wrote
--
You're not alone, I'm a big fan of the C-64.. in fact, I'm just finishing up a
software / hardware project to interface the C-64 to a Model 15 Teletype.
--
Ditto. I've got a shelf of C64 stuff as well. Many fond memories of them and
It was written by two people
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>> I hear that Donald Trump top-posts...
>
> also
> Michael Dell
> Carly Fiorina
> Mark Zuckerberg
> Sarah Palin
> Meg Whitman
> Paris Hilton
> Bill Gates
>
And he is one of the smartest finatual men in the world and soon he will be
your pres..
I'd be happy to host the site for you - gratis - on the classiccmp server.
J
Sorry, that last post ('Re: bye for now') was not intended to get through.
The list was put into emergency moderation mode the past couple days so I
have had to approve each post and apparently slipped on that one. Hopefully,
people noticed the quick return to on-topicness the past day or two.
Sev
I spent a lot of time in my early career on Allen-Bradley PLC 3's & 5's. They
were definitely computers - no screens, and obviously purpose built for process
control.
But then I started thinking... the HP 2100's that are the focus of my
collecting, very often (usually, actually) didn't have sys
Noel wrote
-
Every time I think about it I kick myself... Sigh!
Although I suspect a lot of people here have stories like that...
-
Yeah Noel, we all do. I had a couple different really great machines offered
to me long before I got into collecting. A DG nova 3
Chuck wrote
> ... without screens, we might be better off today ...
*Genuflects*
Amen.
J
Mark wrote...
-
Among the things that I have given away (to Goodwill, or possibly Salvation
Army) - all in running condition:
...[snip a list of equipment I'd *LOVE* to have]...
-
I just put in an application for employment at Goodwill/Salvation army ;)
J
Uh no? Steady stream of posts.
-Original Message-
From: Dave Woyciesjes [mailto:woycies...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 9:47 AM
To: ClassicCMP ; jw...@classiccmp.org
Subject: Classic CMP list fall over again?
Did the email server fall over again?
--
--- Dave Woyci
Just wanted to say a very sincere Thank You to all the talented folks that
hang out here and call this place home, and also to wish you and yours a
Merry Christmas.
Best,
Jay West
jw...@classiccmp.org
Jules wrote
-Original Message-
I've wondered occasionally what happened to ghetto blasters
---
They have just gotten facelifts. Here's one I use:
http://www.boschtools.com/products/tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=P
B360S
And I must say... an awesome "tool", necessary
There's just gotta be some way to tie this thread back to on-topicness.
Dave wrote...
---
(how do you display a thumbs-up sign in ASCII?)
---
In this case: IanSKing++;
Marc wrote...
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I just resurrected a nice HP 2631G dot matrix line printer:
Like here: http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=316
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Very nice printer, I'm jealous. However, I do have an HP 2610A that will get
restored/running at some point. That thing
Someone would like to move out a Micro LSI-11 in a BA23 pedestal cabinet.
Location is Northwest Ohio. Email me off-list if interested.
J
I am not a vax person, I'm posting this for someone else. Could anyone offer
advice for me to relay back to this person (other than reseating boards,
cleaning connectors, or other non-vax-specific stuff)?
--
I was hoping you could help me answer a question. I have a Vaxstation 3100
th
Robert wrote
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Which model of 3100 is this?
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That was the ONE tidbit I left out from his subject line. He said it was a
Vaxstation 3100 "VS42A-BF"
I'll pass on the recommendations, and if he has any more questions I'll
point him to the list :)
Thanks folks!
Best,
J
Someone asked a question about it privately, I researched today and found
the answers so I'll post here as well for posterity.
The HP 2610A printer that I have 2610A was the HP designation for the
Control Data Corporation 9322 Printer. HP sold the printer basically
unmodified (as far as I can
By all means, let's discuss and it will be a useful and fascinating
conversation both now and in the future.
But just as a thought for the more immediate issue (your tapes)... I find it
somewhat unlikely that a significant number of early HP 21XX paper tapes are
not already archived, or in good
DEC Gear available. Unlike most dec gear, I must admit that I can't identify
exactly what this is. Several racks, I was guessing AFT or Instrumentation
Testing. Looks like one or more cpu or expansion cabinets in some of the
racks, and some DEC AD/DA interface stuff. I was left with the impression
Very surprised no one took any guesses at what PDP-11 boxes were in those
pictures.
But in any case, a listmember has stepped forward to go investigate onsite
and perhaps claim them.
J
Just received an email from someone who has a PDP-11/04 with "Floppy Disk"
looking for a good home.
The machine is located in Switzerland. Please email me off-list if
interested.
J
Delayed response, work has been busy. That deal was passed off to the first
responder so it has likely been claimed. If that deal doesn't work out, I'll
email the next person on the list :)
But do not fret... I just see another user sent me an email today about
wanting to get rid of a machine... w
I received the following this morning
--
I recently acquired a pdp11/73 with dual CPUs and am looking to sell it.
Would you know anyone interested.
I would like this to survive and wish to find it a good home.I live In
Massachusetts.
--
The person also gave me a picture, which I p
The "PDP-11/04 and floppy disk" I posted already was claimed by a
listmember. But after the fact, the owner sent me a picture. The listmember
who is getting it is getting a pretty nice system. One of the dec mid-height
cabinets that has the sloped front at the top. RX02 at the top, 11/04 under
that
I had already turned on emergency moderation mode to try and stem the tide
of this escalating further. I had also already emailed a few people off-list
about this, which is primarily how it should be handled. Those who should
have been corrected... were. Quietly.
I'm rather tired of (a very few) p
Rumor has it that one or more people have designed and 3d-printed cases for
their HP-85 PRM-85 boards. Anyone have any of those cases available? I'd
like to get my PRM-85 a proper case :)
Best,
J
Jos wrote...
--
restoration is to start next winter, after a house move which will nearly
double working area for the hobby.
--
Bhahahahaha From experience... it will never be enough space. Double it
again. Still won't be enough. These things reproduce *grin*
J
FYI - I have Oregon pascal on 8" floppies, was used on an RT11 system.
Also have the Saturn Word Processor (for RT11) on 8" floppies.
J
3290's are not super common. They do seem to be more common than
3270/3278/3279's though.
Someone in this thread mentioned the microcode floppies for the 3174. When
getting mine running, the software was tied to the hardware so it was free. I
just called up IBM and they shipped me a full set -
Guy wrote...
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In late '86 I was running a VAX8500 with 2 RA81s
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Can't be true. There's no such thing as running RA81's *Grin*
J
No, the "pride of the collection" must be the HP calculator on top ;)
J
Ethan wrote...
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According to
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/dec/pdp11/catalogs/OEM_Hardware_and_Software_Product_Summary_Oct76.pdf
(page 42)
it might be the H967.
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If memory serves, that's correct. I have 3 of them. Two of them have the
"PDP-8E Mustard Yellow" color. One
Silent wrote...
--
Can you process (image) 9-track tape? I have quite a few tapes with
DIBOL-related packages on them.
--
Silent;
I have a rack set up just for imaging tapes (and other things). I can get your
tapes moved to .tap files very quickly.
J
Stan wrote...
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There may be an HP 250 available in Germany.
If interested, please email me directly, sieler at allegro.com
--
Wow, very nice. I'm not up for a rescue in Germany, but curious - desk model
or pedestal model??
Jay
I should add... my tape conversion setup can do 800, 1600, 3200, and 6250.
The same rig is also set up with all the common floppy drives - including 8",
zip drives, etc.
It's my "media conversion" rack. Which also houses my Hercules and 3174 rig :)
J
Josh wrote
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I'm willing to bet that this torrent is 100% stuff scraped from Bitsavers and
Archive.org (where the two don't already overlap, not to open up that
can-o-worms again.) So good news: it's already available online.
Of course, classi
It was written
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It's not a can of worms - it's one happy guy and one bitter guy.
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How many thousands of manuals did YOU scan and retouch by hand?
And
--
A re-curated remix...
--
"Re-Curated". That's another word for
And I should point out... there are a very small an
My apologies to the list. My statement should have been made off-list, which is
where the rest of my discussion will ensue
J
Richard wrote...
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All -- I've been searching for an online version of the LSI-11 Processor
Handbook from 1975 (which I think covers the 11/03) but I can't seem to
locate it anywhere.
Does anyone have a link to it or, alternatively, a real copy that maybe I
can scan?
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