Re: Altos system mislisted on Epay

[william degnan]

>
>
>
> As a follow up, I did end up purchasing the thing, in order to get the
> prerequisite Altos 8200 system board and hard disk controller to mate
> with my existing Altos disk.  (My disk is the larger sized SA-4008,
> contrary to the 1004 I cited earlier).  It is indeed a 8000-10 system,
> with a Z80 processor.
>
> It is an all-in one unit - the SA-1004 is on the right hand side of the
> case, under the system board, and the floppy on the left side.  Thus
> quite heavy (shipping weight was apparently 72 lbs).   I have not yet
> disassembled it to check to see if the scrape on the transformer
> requires further attention, to deal with the filter capacitors, remove
> the useless SA-1004, etc.
>
> So, if anyone needs SA-1004 electronics or other pieces/parts let me
> know.  :)
>
> JRJ
>

Did I send you this link?
http://vintagecomputer.net/altos/8000/Altos-8000-pt2_8500_board.pdf

I have the 8000 manual, someone had in the past ask me to scan this part of
it.
b

Re: Altos system mislisted on Epay

[Jay Jaeger]

On 10/17/2016 11:23 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote:
> The back label says 8000-10A, which should indeed be a Z80 system with a
> hard disk.  I have an Altos 1004 disk for the thing (and experience with
> its power supply  ;) ), but when I bought mine, my seller (not the same
> as this one) mis-listed the CPU unit as having the disk controller,
> which was not actually present - he used a stock photo to sell multiple
> units. (I did receive some compensation for that).  The disk controller
> on this unit looks to be correct.
> 
> On 10/16/2016 5:16 PM, jim stephens wrote:
>>
>> 48 min to go at 315 PDT
>>
>> Bit thing not in listing is an SA-1004 disk.  And I'm suspicious it is
>> an 8086, but who knows.  Certainly has many serials on the back.
>>
>> Moore-Business-Systems-Altos-ASC-8000-10A-Zilog-Z80-CP-M-Multi-user-Computer
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/311713600878
>>
> 

As a follow up, I did end up purchasing the thing, in order to get the
prerequisite Altos 8200 system board and hard disk controller to mate
with my existing Altos disk.  (My disk is the larger sized SA-4008,
contrary to the 1004 I cited earlier).  It is indeed a 8000-10 system,
with a Z80 processor.

It is an all-in one unit - the SA-1004 is on the right hand side of the
case, under the system board, and the floppy on the left side.  Thus
quite heavy (shipping weight was apparently 72 lbs).   I have not yet
disassembled it to check to see if the scrape on the transformer
requires further attention, to deal with the filter capacitors, remove
the useless SA-1004, etc.

So, if anyone needs SA-1004 electronics or other pieces/parts let me
know.  :)

JRJ

Re: Altos system mislisted on Epay

[James B DiGriz]

On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 20:45:35 -0700
Steven M Jones  wrote:

> IIRC the auction copy indicated something had been done to the PSU as
> well. There was a close-up of some wires soldered to some spade lugs,
> but I don't recall seeing a good photo of the PSU itself.

IIRC, mine had a big, heavy transformer for the linear power supply.
The pictures showing the innards seem to be gone now, but that
would be low-hanging fruit. Fe, Cu, Al. 

I hope the seller merely received the unit in this condition, and
didn't gut it themselves. C'est la guerre, though, in either case.   

jbdigriz

Re: Altos system mislisted on Epay

[Steven M Jones]

On 10/16/2016 15:38, Glen Slick wrote:
> 
> Has the one in the listing here had the hard drive platter brutally
> removed? Didn't take a close look at all of the photos to be sure.

By my previous viewing of the pics in that auction - yes, somebody
ripped the platters out of the HDD, breaking the arms the R/W heads were
mounted on. Said heads were left dangling.

IIRC the auction copy indicated something had been done to the PSU as
well. There was a close-up of some wires soldered to some spade lugs,
but I don't recall seeing a good photo of the PSU itself.

It didn't sell, so there's a good chance it'll be listed again in a few
days. They tend to give things a few shots before they stop relisting.

--S.

Re: Altos system mislisted on Epay

[James B DiGriz]

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:38:55 +
william degnan  wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Glen Slick 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Oct 16, 2016 3:19 PM, "jim stephens"  wrote:  
> > >
> > >
> > > 48 min to go at 315 PDT
> > >
> > > Bit thing not in listing is an SA-1004 disk.  And I'm suspicious
> > > it is an  
> > 8086, but who knows.  Certainly has many serials on the back.  
> > >
> > >  
> > Moore-Business-Systems-Altos-ASC-8000-10A-Zilog-Z80-CP-M-
> > Multi-user-Computer  
> > >
> > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/311713600878  
> >
> > I had one of those that I gave to Josh. It was mostly working at
> > the time. It was Z80 based.
> >
> > Has the one in the listing here had the hard drive platter brutally
> > removed? Didn't take a close look at all of the photos to be sure.
> >  
> 
> I think this is one page from the manual related to the 8500 board
> vintagecomputer.net/altos/8000
> 

My ACS8000-10 was a Z80 system with MP/M installed. Working condition,
but lost along with an ADDS Regent 25 terminal, a DS50 disk, the left
hand door to a DS990 rack, and other items, to the higher imperatives of
crackheads needing scrap to peddle, some time back. 

Moral of the story is along the lines of "the squeaky wheel gets the
grease", or maybe "money talks but bs walks", when it comes to secure
storage or shop facilities, but then patronage always comes at a price,
too. C'est la guerre, er, vie. 

Sorry to wax philosophical. 

jbdigriz

Re: Altos system mislisted on Epay

[william degnan]

On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Glen Slick  wrote:

> On Oct 16, 2016 3:19 PM, "jim stephens"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > 48 min to go at 315 PDT
> >
> > Bit thing not in listing is an SA-1004 disk.  And I'm suspicious it is an
> 8086, but who knows.  Certainly has many serials on the back.
> >
> >
> Moore-Business-Systems-Altos-ASC-8000-10A-Zilog-Z80-CP-M-
> Multi-user-Computer
> >
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/311713600878
>
> I had one of those that I gave to Josh. It was mostly working at the time.
> It was Z80 based.
>
> Has the one in the listing here had the hard drive platter brutally
> removed? Didn't take a close look at all of the photos to be sure.
>

I think this is one page from the manual related to the 8500 board
vintagecomputer.net/altos/8000

Re: Altos system mislisted on Epay

[Glen Slick]

On Oct 16, 2016 3:19 PM, "jim stephens"  wrote:
>
>
> 48 min to go at 315 PDT
>
> Bit thing not in listing is an SA-1004 disk.  And I'm suspicious it is an
8086, but who knows.  Certainly has many serials on the back.
>
>
Moore-Business-Systems-Altos-ASC-8000-10A-Zilog-Z80-CP-M-Multi-user-Computer
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/311713600878

I had one of those that I gave to Josh. It was mostly working at the time.
It was Z80 based.

Has the one in the listing here had the hard drive platter brutally
removed? Didn't take a close look at all of the photos to be sure.

Altos system mislisted on Epay

[jim stephens]

48 min to go at 315 PDT

Bit thing not in listing is an SA-1004 disk.  And I'm suspicious it is 
an 8086, but who knows.  Certainly has many serials on the back.


Moore-Business-Systems-Altos-ASC-8000-10A-Zilog-Z80-CP-M-Multi-user-Computer

http://www.ebay.com/itm/311713600878