Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Noel Chiappa via cctalk]

> From: Dan Cohoe dancohoe at oxford.net 

> I'll put my hand up on this. 

It sounds like you got everything that was left?

Enjoy the -11/60, they are pretty rare!

Noel

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Pete Lancashire via cctalk]

If $s are needed, I would toss a few in to have someone save the 11/60 ..
many fond memories of S/N #6

Hope someone gets a hold of this guy

-pete



On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Systems Glitch via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> > Ditto for one of the people here who said they'd sent the person an email
>
> Whoops, ended up in the spam folder! No, I haven't heard back either. I
> sent a follow-up and CCed the second address in his email. Provided my
> office phone number, no reply or calls.
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
>

RE: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Dan Cohoe via cctalk]

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Steven Maresca 
via cctalk
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 11:59 AM
To: Noel Chiappa; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < 
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> > Is anyone confirmed to be picking this stuff up?
>

I'll put my hand up on this.  

Much of the trove had already gone to scrap before this group got wind of it.  
And for a lot of it that was probably the right thing though it pains me to say 
that.  The house cleaners had been there before I contacted the owner 
immediately after the message appeared on the list.
The S/32 all went to scrap as it had been a possum home for a number of years, 
the 11/60 cabinets were scrapped a few days prior to the list contact and the 
11/34 had also been severely damaged by animals while being stored in a garage 
for approximately 10 years.  The 11/60 processor was stored in better 
conditions and consists of two BA11 style boxes. 

There was a well preserved Flexowriter recovered in pieces, but likely 
complete, and a bunch of ADM3a terminals.   I also brought home a very, very 
rough TU 55. Unfortunately another, possibly a TU 56, had been scrapped a few 
days earlier as well. 
The owner, Greg, was one of the nicer people I have met over the years.  He 
lives near the MSU surplus sale site and was a good customer there.

We need a better way to be recognized as a place to post situations like this 
earlier in people's decision process on how to clear out a house.

BTW, I should also report on the recovery of the Triad system early in January. 
 Will Donzelli and I came back from that location with the Triad rack, a 
re-badged Interdata system (8-32) and a lot of interesting terminals as well as 
a few CDC 9726H cartridge drives.  We may have a system for this, but have not 
had time to investigate.

Regards, Dan

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Josh Dersch via cctalk]

FWIW, the LCM+L inquired and heard back earlier this week, apparently the
gear has been claimed.  Hopefully that's true...

- Josh


On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Systems Glitch via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> > Ditto for one of the people here who said they'd sent the person an email
>
> Whoops, ended up in the spam folder! No, I haven't heard back either. I
> sent a follow-up and CCed the second address in his email. Provided my
> office phone number, no reply or calls.
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Systems Glitch via cctalk]

> Ditto for one of the people here who said they'd sent the person an email

Whoops, ended up in the spam folder! No, I haven't heard back either. I sent a 
follow-up and CCed the second address in his email. Provided my office phone 
number, no reply or calls.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Steven Maresca via cctalk]

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> > Is anyone confirmed to be picking this stuff up?
>
> I sent the person an email, never heard back.
>
> Ditto for one of the people here who said they'd sent the person an email
> - I
> sent them an email, asking if they'd heard back, never got an answer from
> them
> either.
>
> Noel
>
Likewise, I have not heard back either.

Steve

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Noel Chiappa via cctalk]

> Is anyone confirmed to be picking this stuff up?

I sent the person an email, never heard back.

Ditto for one of the people here who said they'd sent the person an email - I
sent them an email, asking if they'd heard back, never got an answer from them
either.

Noel

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[A Unhealthy Dosage of Dank Memes via cctalk]

Is anyone confirmed to be picking this stuff up? There is a *very* small change 
I would be able to if nobody else can or will (I would prefer not to). It would 
pain me to see all this stuff go to scrap.

Thanks

> On Feb 28, 2017, at 5:42 AM, LJW cctech via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> Via Mike Ross, but contact Greg with any questions!
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "Greg Bebermeyer" 
> Date: Feb 27, 2017 4:44 AM
> Subject: IBM System/32 - web response
> To: 
> Cc:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Maybe this is no longer relevant since I can't tell from the web page how 
> recent the post is... I am selling my house and in the back of the garage is 
> a complete System/32 that was working when I stuck it there and covered it. 
> Much other stuff is in front of it so I haven't seen it in a while. It's free 
> for the taking to anyone willing to come to East Lansing, Michigan and pick 
> it up. If you aren't interested then it'll just go to the scrappers because I 
> need to get the place ready for inspection. The junk haulers should uncover 
> it in a day or two at which point I could take pictures.
> 
> I also have a PDP-11/60, if you know of anyone interested. Same deal - free, 
> come pick it up. The 11/60 main box has been stored in a dry basement along 
> with two RL01 disk drives (in free standing cabinets, not rack mounted) along 
> with a box of flat interconnect cables. It was used in a cardiac unit to run 
> heart monitors and has an extra card cage full of interface cards. Also 
> there's 3 PDP-11/34s in a rack in the garage as well. All this stuff has to 
> go in about a week to 10 days, unless arrangements/promises are made and kept.
> 
> If you're interested in any of this stuff, or could refer me to someone who 
> might be, I would love for this stuff to go to a good home. Yup, I started 
> with FORTRAN and 80-column punch cards. Thanks.
> 
> My best,
> -Greg Bebermeyer
> beber...@gmail.com
> greg.beberme...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> -- 
> Lawrence Wilkinson lawre...@ljw.me.uk
> The IBM 360/30 page   http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Paul Koning via cctalk]

> On Mar 1, 2017, at 12:12 PM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 03/01/2017 05:27 PM, Henk Gooijen via cctalk wrote:
>> I have heard that story to. _IF_ you have WCS for the 11/60 ... not very 
>> common.
>> But even with WCS installed, there is a “small” problem: the PDP-8 microcode
>> for the 11/60 is lost ☹
> But it could be rewritten!

Presumably.  But it's not easy to replicate the work of a wizard like Richie 
Lary.

The microcode assembler is probably less of a problem.  Another issue would be 
to reconstruct the RSTS support code for loading the microcode and running PDP8 
jobs, which doesn't seem to be around anymore either.

paul

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk]

On 03/01/2017 05:27 PM, Henk Gooijen via cctalk wrote:

I have heard that story to. _IF_ you have WCS for the 11/60 ... not very common.
But even with WCS installed, there is a “small” problem: the PDP-8 microcode
for the 11/60 is lost ☹

But it could be rewritten!

RE: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Henk Gooijen via cctalk]

I have heard that story to. _IF_ you have WCS for the 11/60 ... not very common.
But even with WCS installed, there is a “small” problem: the PDP-8 microcode
for the 11/60 is lost ☹

From my website:
The only other PDP-11 that has a WCS option (KUV11, M8018) is the PDP-11/03, 
KD11-F processor. Ritchie Lary wrote the micro-code for the PDP-11/60 to 
emulate the PDP-8 instruction set, making it the "fastest PDP-8 ever".
It is a pity that the source code seems to be lost. Even Ritchie Lary, the 
author, no longer had the source when Eric Smith inquired some years back 
(~2011 - 2012), and Ritchie did not think that anyone else was likely to have 
it. So, it appears to be lost forever.

I love to hear whether somebody has that source code!
But then, I lack the tools to compile that. IIRC, you need a microcode compiler 
and some other tool …


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Onderwerp: Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI


PDP-11/60 - the fastest PDP-8 ever built!  :-)

--
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The Information School <http://ischool.uw.edu>
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Narrative Through a Design Lens

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Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Ethan Dicks via cctalk]

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Earl Evans via cctech
 wrote:
> I'm on the other side of the country or I'd be all over this.

I'm hours away myself...

> Someone please rescue this equipment. The thought of it going to the 
> scrappers is, well, brutal.

Indeed.

> Aren't PDP-11/60s kind of a rare beast?

Quite rare.  I've seen more 11/20s than 11/60s... (not that either
number is large).

-ethan

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Systems Glitch via cctalk]

> > I'm on the other side of the country or I'd be all over this. Someone
> > please rescue this equipment. The thought of it going to the scrappers is,
> > well, brutal. Aren't PDP-11/60s kind of a rare beast?
> >
> > - Earl
> >
> 
> yes, yes they are.  ug.

I've contacted Greg, haven't heard back yet. I've got the means to pick them 
up. I'd probably be selling some of the hardware to recoup my travel costs, 
this list will be the first to hear about it if it works out.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[william degnan via cctalk]

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Earl Evans via cctech <
cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I'm on the other side of the country or I'd be all over this. Someone
> please rescue this equipment. The thought of it going to the scrappers is,
> well, brutal. Aren't PDP-11/60s kind of a rare beast?
>
> - Earl
>

yes, yes they are.  ug.
b

Re: IBM S/32, PDP-11/60+RL01, PDP-11/34, East Lansing MI

[Earl Evans via cctalk]

I'm on the other side of the country or I'd be all over this. Someone
please rescue this equipment. The thought of it going to the scrappers is,
well, brutal. Aren't PDP-11/60s kind of a rare beast?

- Earl