Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-22 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 11/21/18 7:36 PM, Mike Stein wrote: Al, If you're looking for a service manual for that HP2624 you might have a look at the manual for the MAI 4309; it's the same board with a few minor differences (memory) and different firmware. And of course it's on bitsavers ;-) mike thanks! It

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-21 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
Al, If you're looking for a service manual for that HP2624 you might have a look at the manual for the MAI 4309; it's the same board with a few minor differences (memory) and different firmware. And of course it's on bitsavers ;-) mike

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-21 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:23 AM Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > > BTW, for some reason I get some of your (Al's) posts _after_ I've received > replies to them, sometimes almost a day later; very confusing. It seems to be > related to the fact that some of your posts are addressed to >

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-21 Thread Lyle Bickley via cctalk
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 10:22:16 -0500 Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Al Kossow via cctalk" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 7:44 PM > Subject: Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals > > > > > > >

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-21 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - From: "Al Kossow via cctalk" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 7:44 PM Subject: Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals > > > On 11/20/18 12:33 PM, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > >> BTW, what's the story on Richard in

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-20 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 11/20/18 12:33 PM, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > BTW, what's the story on Richard in SLC; is there a new address for the > Terminal Wiki? > https://terminals-wiki.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-20 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - From: "Brent Hilpert via cctalk" Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals > I did happen to RE the keyboard and analyse it's functioning some as it > needed repair, so that's included in th

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-20 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
On 2018-Nov-20, at 11:42 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > I just bought the users and programming manuals for the TS-1, need to get > those scanned today. -- You should have asked ;-) I think I've got 4 or 5 spare copies somewhere ;-) = > On 11/20/18 11:28 AM,

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-20 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - From: "Brent Hilpert via cctalk" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals On 2018-Nov-20, at 1:21 AM, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: >

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-20 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 11/20/18 11:51 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: > Just curiousity, but was there something special about the Falcos that's > generating particular interest, or of note? > Mostly that they are uncommon. I suspect with the NiCd batteries that very few still work and unfortunately, they

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-20 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2018-Nov-20, at 11:18 AM, Paul Koning wrote: >> On Nov 20, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> ... >> The PCB-transformer key design is novel, but (in the TS-1) so is the >> scanning & communication. >> There is no microcontroller on the keyboard, scanning is

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-20 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2018-Nov-20, at 11:42 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > On 11/20/18 11:28 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: > >> Were there 3 PROMs on the TS-1? I don't remember > > There are three bipolar proms on the 2624 that you can see on the pcb picture > I still need to dump those, only one is

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-20 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 11/20/18 11:28 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: > Were there 3 PROMs on the TS-1? I don't remember There are three bipolar proms on the 2624 that you can see on the pcb picture I still need to dump those, only one is socketed. It looks like the keyboard is very similar in the 2624 with

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-20 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2018-Nov-20, at 1:21 AM, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Al Kossow via cctalk" > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 6:29 PM > Subject: Battery warning in Falco terminals > ... >> Also, I suspect the

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-20 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 20, 2018, at 2:07 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > The PCB-transformer key design is novel, but (in the TS-1) so is the scanning > & communication. > There is no microcontroller on the keyboard, scanning is performed by the > main unit, it sends a key matrix address

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-20 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2018-Nov-20, at 5:11 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > On 11/19/18 11:54 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote: > >> I didn't have need / get as far as doing an I/O map or memory map for the >> Z80. >> >> Should I send these files along? >> > > Yes, please to dumps/docs and board/terminal pics from you

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-20 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 11/19/18 11:54 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote: I didn't have need / get as far as doing an I/O map or memory map for the Z80. Should I send these files along? Yes, please to dumps/docs and board/terminal pics from you and Mike! I'm sure Richard would appreciate these as well for the terminals

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-20 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - From: "Al Kossow via cctalk" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 6:29 PM Subject: Battery warning in Falco terminals ... > Also, I suspect the first generation of terminals all have similar hardware > with

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-19 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2018-Nov-19, at 3:29 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > I've been helping the MAME guys simulate a TS-2624, which is a block mode HP > emulating terminal. > I had bought this a while ago, and never dumped the firmware. Unfortunately > there is a large > NiCd battery right in the middle of the

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-19 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
Just had a closer look at the TS-2624 and it does indeed have the battery on the board; looks like that's one of the differences from the TS-1x. Looks like I or someone had enough foresight to remove it from this board before it caused any damage. m

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-19 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - From: "Al Kossow via cctalk" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 6:29 PM Subject: Battery warning in Falco terminals > I've been helping the MAME guys simulate a TS-2624, which is a block mode HP > emulating

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-19 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
The later model 500/5000 have a small NiCd as well. On 11/19/18 3:29 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > I've been helping the MAME guys simulate a TS-2624, which is a block mode HP > emulating terminal. > I had bought this a while ago, and never dumped the firmware. Unfortunately > there is a