Forking this thread as we are now way off the original and very cogent topic,
which I would like to see continued. (Very valid to ask about good emulations
of early GUI systems like Apollo, LispMs, PERQ, Xerox D* etc)
Peter’s mentions of TRIPOS (which was used on a Sage IV for Amiga Lorraine
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 11:29:14PM -0500, Richard Pope via cctalk wrote:
> The Amiga 1000 with AmigaDos and Workbench was released in late 1985.
> AmigaDos is based on Unix and Workbench is based on X-windows.
Er, no.
The Amiga's operating system is a pre-emptive multitasking microkernel which
On Sep 21, 2020, at 9:29 PM, Richard Pope wrote:
>
>The Amiga 1000 with AmigaDos and Workbench was released in late 1985.
> AmigaDos is based on Unix and Workbench is based on X-windows.
Neither of these claims is correct.
— Chris
Hello all,
The Amiga 1000 with AmigaDos and Workbench was released in late
1985. AmigaDos is based on Unix and Workbench is based on X-windows.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!
On 9/21/2020 11:24 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote:
On Sep 21, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
wrote:
On Sep 21, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Almost looks like a SunView ancestor.
I’m pretty sure SunWindows/SunView predates MGR by 2-3 years.
— Chris
> On Sep 21, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>>> MGR was not the Unix PC's native GUI environment; I'm not sure what that
>>> was named. MGR was an open source environment that could be installed on
>>> the Unix PC.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ManaGeR
>
>
On 9/21/20 6:38 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
MGR was not the Unix PC's native GUI environment; I'm not sure what that
was named. MGR was an open source environment that could be installed on
the Unix PC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ManaGeR
Almost looks like a SunView ancestor.
> > MGR was not the Unix PC's native GUI environment; I'm not sure what that
> > was named. MGR was an open source environment that could be installed on
> > the Unix PC.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ManaGeR
Almost looks like a SunView ancestor.
--
On 9/21/20 4:11 PM, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote:
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 3:24 PM Mike Begley via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
There's also the windowing system used on the AT 3B1 (AKA Unix PC, AK
PC7300), which I think was called MGR. It may have also been ported to
other systems as
On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 3:24 PM Mike Begley via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> There's also the windowing system used on the AT 3B1 (AKA Unix PC, AK
> PC7300), which I think was called MGR. It may have also been ported to
> other systems as well. When I had one of these machines it
Well, CD images are available on the Web for both IRIX 5.3 and 6.5.
Various manuals, including installation guides seem to be available at
http://irix7.com/techpubs.html
As long as you have a CD drive (which you would have needed to install
Linux), you should be good to go, though certain bits
I have an SGI Indy that some idiot (tm) (okay, it was me) put Linux on.
Anyone have any way to undo my mistake? (: I'd like to get the thing
running properly again, if it even still powers up. I imagine the HD is
probably knackered by now anyway.
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 at 20:30, Ray Jewhurst via
Noel Chiappa wrote:
> > it was AI rather than MC. As I'm sure you know, AI had the Rubin
> > 10-11 interface
>
> Really? (I expect you're correct, mind.) I just remember one day MC
> wasn't running as normal, and I was told it was because CHEOPS was in
> some tournament, and MC had been taken
On Sep 17, 2020, at 19:18, Michael Kerpan wrote:
> Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering:
> how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or emulated at all)? I
> know that there are more or less functional emulations of Alto, Star, and
> Lisa out there, but
There's also the windowing system used on the AT 3B1 (AKA Unix PC, AK
PC7300), which I think was called MGR. It may have also been ported to other
systems as well. When I had one of these machines it was adequate, although
terribly slow on a 512K system.
There's a writeup, with images, here:
> From: Lars Brinkhoff
> it was AI rather than MC. As I'm sure you know, AI had the Rubin 10-11
> interface
Really? (I expect you're correct, mind.) I just remember one day MC wasn't
running as normal, and I was told it was because CHEOPS was in some
tournament, and MC had been
Noel Chiappa wrote:
> I'm not sure CONS ever ran as a stand-alone system; I suspect (but
> don't recall for sure; RG, TK or Moon or someone could confirm one way
> or the other) that it ran as a loosely-coupled co-processor to MC, the
> way the Chess Machine did.
I believe you are entirely
> From: Lars Brinkhoff
> There are emulators for the CADR Lisp machine ... There's no emulators
> for the CONS, but I claim it would be interesting to attempt one.
I'm not sure CONS ever ran as a stand-alone system; I suspect (but don't
recall for sure; RG, TK or Moon or someone
it with Gulam a "unix like" shell with a built in
Micro Emacs.
Dave
G4UGM
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk On Behalf Of ED SHARPE via
> cctalk
> Sent: 18 September 2020 20:48
> To: mjker...@kerpan.com; cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Exploring early GUIs
> On Sep 18, 2020, at 3:48 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
> I re mn ember GEm5 as a guide ran under dos . .
> Ed#
> On Friday, September 18, 2020 Paul Koning via cctalk cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
>> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk
>> wrote:
>>
Hello all,
There are emulations of the Amiga out there.
GOD Bless and Thanks,
rich!
On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk
wrote:
Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering:
how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or emulated at
I re mn ember GEm5 as a guide ran under dos . .
Ed#
On Friday, September 18, 2020 Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering:
> how many early graphical
Also available on MAME is HP VUE on the 9000/360 and 370 and not a super
early GUI but quite breathtaking is Irix on the SGI Indy. Directions to set
up both are all over the web.
Ray
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 2:23 PM jacob--- via cctalk
wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, Michael Kerpan via cctalk
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, Michael Kerpan via cctalk wrote:
Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering:
how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or emulated at all)? I
know that there are more or less functional emulations of Alto, Star, and
Lisa out there, but
Michael Kerpan wrote:
> Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me
> wondering: how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or
> emulated at all)? I know that there are more or less functional
> emulations of Alto, Star, and Lisa out there, but what about the
> various
> On Sep 17, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael Kerpan via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering:
> how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or emulated at all)? I
> know that there are more or less functional emulations of Alto, Star,
would early gui include hmi systems
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 9:19 PM Michael Kerpan via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering:
> how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or emulated at all)? I
> know that there
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