RE: Holy mother of pearl. 25000 for an 026

2015-06-06 Thread Robert Jarratt


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 Subject: Re: Holy mother of pearl. 25000 for an 026
 
 I think I'd enjoy having an 029 if the right one appeared at the right
cost and
 location. But I think I could get by with an 026 for $9! :)
 
 I have zero experience with keypunch machines and zero practical use for
 one... but I think it would be fun anyway.
 


I am with you on the 029, I used to use one and would love to have one of my
own, although, as usual, I think space would be a problem. :-(

Regards

Rob



Re: Holy mother of pearl. 25000 for an 026

2015-06-06 Thread Brent Hilpert
On the one hand the 25K is ridiculously excessive; on the other I'm surprised 
you were able to obtain one for so little, even in poor condition, and there 
was so little bidding.

Replacing the missing keycaps may be difficult, but it otherwise looks quite 
recoverable.


On 2015-Jun-05, at 6:21 PM, Connor Krukosky wrote:

 That has been posted up for a LONG time and will likely NEVER sell at that 
 price or at any offer since this guy seems to think its made of gold.
 It's less rare than an 029 seemingly anyway. The 026's seem to have had a lot 
 more of them run for a longer time, meaning more survived to see the light of 
 day again...
 Its in better condition than the one I got, but I got mine for only 9 
 dollars!!
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-26-Keypunch-Punch-Card-/141603779673
 It may be worth a couple of hundred to the right person, but I can't ever see 
 that thing selling anywhere close to that figure...
 
 -Connor K
 
 On 6/5/2015 8:38 PM, jwsmobile wrote:
 
 This seems excessive, to say the least.
 
 RARE-VINTAGE-IBM-26-INTERPRETING-CARD-PUNCH-OWN-A-PIECE-OF-HISTORY
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/161725243156
 
 but it's rare.



Re: Holy mother of pearl. 25000 for an 026

2015-06-06 Thread Connor Krukosky
The two bids where actually me pushing my bid up worrying that there 
would be a snipe at the end but there was not...

No-one else wanted it, it was luckily only about and hour from me.
I have been slowly working on it, it now feeds and registers a card 
correctly but my main problem is dirty relay contacts it seems.
I have zero experience as-well... The 024 and 026 were introduced 48 
years before I was born so I honestly am tackling a new beast heh.

But I have been slowly making progress :)
Really they are complicated in their mechanics, the only overwhelming 
thing with the electronics are the sheer number of wires, especially to 
that keyboard!
For the keys I am going to try and 3D print semi close replacements 
until I am lucky enough to find original keys...
I wish those looking for an 029 luck, they seem to be quite rare in 
comparison to the 026 as I have previously said.
The only reasoning I have found for this is because IBM seem to have 
sold off the rest of their inventory of 024/026 Keypunches and parts to 
a company called MAI which kept them going well after they were intended...
Mine had a service booklet that says it had Service coverage affective 
in 1970 for the US Army. This was 6 years after the 029 was released in 
1964 and 21 years after the 026 was introduced!
Not to mention I think I have seen a service log entry into the early 
80s (I have absolutely tons of these service logs)!!
I do although have the desk for an 029... Likely will never find the 
guts but oh well it makes a cool desk until then :)
I got that for free from a set of the desks, the rest were trashed that 
one was actually nice, but they used a bunch of trashed 029's to barely 
get one working so it wasn't put to waste I suppose.

I at-least stopped the good desk from hitting the trash.

-Connork

On 6/6/2015 2:39 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote:

On the one hand the 25K is ridiculously excessive; on the other I'm surprised 
you were able to obtain one for so little, even in poor condition, and there 
was so little bidding.

Replacing the missing keycaps may be difficult, but it otherwise looks quite 
recoverable.


On 2015-Jun-05, at 6:21 PM, Connor Krukosky wrote:


That has been posted up for a LONG time and will likely NEVER sell at that 
price or at any offer since this guy seems to think its made of gold.
It's less rare than an 029 seemingly anyway. The 026's seem to have had a lot 
more of them run for a longer time, meaning more survived to see the light of 
day again...
Its in better condition than the one I got, but I got mine for only 9 dollars!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-26-Keypunch-Punch-Card-/141603779673
It may be worth a couple of hundred to the right person, but I can't ever see 
that thing selling anywhere close to that figure...

-Connor K

On 6/5/2015 8:38 PM, jwsmobile wrote:

This seems excessive, to say the least.

RARE-VINTAGE-IBM-26-INTERPRETING-CARD-PUNCH-OWN-A-PIECE-OF-HISTORY

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161725243156

but it's rare.




Re: Holy mother of pearl. 25000 for an 026

2015-06-06 Thread Todd Goodman
* Robert Jarratt robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com [150606 02:16]:
 
 
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  From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark J.
  Blair
  Sent: 06 June 2015 03:06
  To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
  Subject: Re: Holy mother of pearl. 25000 for an 026
  
  I think I'd enjoy having an 029 if the right one appeared at the right
 cost and
  location. But I think I could get by with an 026 for $9! :)
  
  I have zero experience with keypunch machines and zero practical use for
  one... but I think it would be fun anyway.
  
 
 
 I am with you on the 029, I used to use one and would love to have one of my
 own, although, as usual, I think space would be a problem. :-(
 
 Regards
 
 Rob

Yeah, I used to use one too and would love to find one.  I can find
space for one too...

Todd


Re: Holy mother of pearl. 25000 for an 026

2015-06-06 Thread Lee Courtney
I know that as late as the mid-1970s 026's were refurbished and upgraded by
a third-party (SORBUS?) as cheaper 029s and with the 029 character set. We
had many of these 026--029s where I went to school.

Lee C.

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Cory Heisterkamp coryheisterk...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I use to watch for these on ebay and it seems one would pop up every 12-16
 months or so, usually on the opposite side of the country, and sell for
 $500-$1000 depending on condition. I recall when a certain 129 was up for
 bid back in 2005; info preserved by the 'IBM Collectibles' webpage.
 http://ibmcollectable.com/gallery/album71  Hard to say what it might go
 for these days. -Cory


 On Jun 6, 2015, at 1:39 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote:

  On the one hand the 25K is ridiculously excessive; on the other I'm
 surprised you were able to obtain one for so little, even in poor
 condition, and there was so little bidding.
 
  Replacing the missing keycaps may be difficult, but it otherwise looks
 quite recoverable.
 
 
  On 2015-Jun-05, at 6:21 PM, Connor Krukosky wrote:
 
  That has been posted up for a LONG time and will likely NEVER sell at
 that price or at any offer since this guy seems to think its made of gold.
  It's less rare than an 029 seemingly anyway. The 026's seem to have had
 a lot more of them run for a longer time, meaning more survived to see the
 light of day again...
  Its in better condition than the one I got, but I got mine for only 9
 dollars!!
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-26-Keypunch-Punch-Card-/141603779673
  It may be worth a couple of hundred to the right person, but I can't
 ever see that thing selling anywhere close to that figure...
 
  -Connor K




-- 
Lee Courtney
+1-650-704-3934 cell


Re: Holy mother of pearl. 25000 for an 026

2015-06-06 Thread Mark J. Blair

 On Jun 6, 2015, at 10:28, William Donzelli wdonze...@gmail.com wrote:
 The main IBM keypunches (026, 029, and 129) are sort of like Teletypes
 - yes, they have respectable value, but there are still a whole lot of
 chances to get into a right place, right time situation and get them
 for nothing. At this point, I have started to pass them by, unless it
 they are super easy to get.

Please let me know if you find out about one near me that you don't wish to 
grab yourself on one of your trips. I'll be happy to do likewise for big stuff 
that I don't want myself.

I figure that for large items like these, the bidding results will depend on 
whether there are two potential buyers close enough to pick up the item. End 
result might be no bids, one minimum bid, or a thousand+ bucks, depending.


-- 
Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net
http://www.nf6x.net/



Re: Holy mother of pearl. 25000 for an 026

2015-06-06 Thread William Donzelli
 On the one hand the 25K is ridiculously excessive; on the other I'm surprised 
 you were able to obtain one for so little, even in poor condition, and there 
 was so little bidding.

 Replacing the missing keycaps may be difficult, but it otherwise looks quite 
 recoverable.

The main IBM keypunches (026, 029, and 129) are sort of like Teletypes
- yes, they have respectable value, but there are still a whole lot of
chances to get into a right place, right time situation and get them
for nothing. At this point, I have started to pass them by, unless it
they are super easy to get.

The variants, on the other hand, are very difficult to find, as are
verifiers and non-IBM keypunches.

--
Will


Re: Holy mother of pearl. 25000 for an 026

2015-06-05 Thread Connor Krukosky
That has been posted up for a LONG time and will likely NEVER sell at 
that price or at any offer since this guy seems to think its made of gold.
It's less rare than an 029 seemingly anyway. The 026's seem to have had 
a lot more of them run for a longer time, meaning more survived to see 
the light of day again...
Its in better condition than the one I got, but I got mine for only 9 
dollars!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-26-Keypunch-Punch-Card-/141603779673
It may be worth a couple of hundred to the right person, but I can't 
ever see that thing selling anywhere close to that figure...


-Connor K

On 6/5/2015 8:38 PM, jwsmobile wrote:


This seems excessive, to say the least.

RARE-VINTAGE-IBM-26-INTERPRETING-CARD-PUNCH-OWN-A-PIECE-OF-HISTORY

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161725243156

but it's rare.




Re: Holy mother of pearl. 25000 for an 026

2015-06-05 Thread Mark J. Blair
I think I'd enjoy having an 029 if the right one appeared at the right cost and 
location. But I think I could get by with an 026 for $9! :)

I have zero experience with keypunch machines and zero practical use for one... 
but I think it would be fun anyway.

-- 
Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net
http://www.nf6x.net/



Re: Holy mother of pearl. 25000 for an 026

2015-06-05 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Connor Krukosky
conn...@connorsdomain.com wrote:
 Its in better condition than the one I got, but I got mine for only 9
 dollars!!
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-26-Keypunch-Punch-Card-/141603779673

Nicely done.  I have an 026 that needs to be completely cleaned, lubed
and inspected.  It was removed from a clean place where it was disused
for decades, but AFAIK, it was stored in working order.

-ethan