Re: ISO Xebec S1410A fw #104792 or 104793

[David Cooper]

I have imaged a couple of ROMS from Xebec Controllers:

ASSY 104527 REV E06, SN 132-2860\xebec_104521h_adb5_TMS2732AJL-45.bin
104686, ROM 104700A (mfm-scsi bridge)\104700a_xebec_assy104686.bin

Do either of these look like something you would like?





-Original Message- 
From: Al Kossow

Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 5:57 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: ISO Xebec S1410A fw #104792 or 104793

I just started cataloging and dumping firmware my SASI/SCSI disk and tape 
boards
starting with Xebec. It would be nice to find images for the two alternate 
fw
proms for the S1410A, particularly the 8k 104793 version so I can compare it 
to

the one used on the S1420

Re: ISO Xebec S1410A fw #104792 or 104793

[Al Kossow]

As far as creating text files in firmware directories, yes

There probably should be something on github if a bunch of people are going to 
be editing files
that could be pulled.

I'm NOT going to put up any sort of Wiki though. Bitsavers stays a collection 
of files that can
be easily mirrored with rsync.

On 11/16/16 12:25 AM, Dave Wade wrote:
> Would Al catalogue these for us ?
> 

Re: ISO Xebec S1410A fw #104792 or 104793

[Plamen Mihaylov]

Here you go - http://m88k.com/XEBEC_104788G.BIN

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Al Kossow  wrote:

> I just started cataloging and dumping firmware my SASI/SCSI disk and tape
> boards
> starting with Xebec. It would be nice to find images for the two alternate
> fw
> proms for the S1410A, particularly the 8k 104793 version so I can compare
> it to
> the one used on the S1420
>
>
>

RE: ISO Xebec S1410A fw #104792 or 104793

[Dave Wade]

Would Al catalogue these for us ?

Dave

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre
> Souza
> Sent: 16 November 2016 00:38
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Re: ISO Xebec S1410A fw #104792 or 104793
> 
> What about a rom cataloging site? Is it feasible?
> 
> 
> 2016-11-15 22:36 GMT-02:00 Santo Nucifora <santo.nucif...@gmail.com>:
> 
> > Hi Al,
> >
> > I don't have those particular board with the firmware but I posted a
> > bunch of pics of what I have here, if it helps as you go through more.
> >
> > http://vintagecomputer.ca/bridgeboards-gallery/
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Santo
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Chuck Guzis <ccl...@sydex.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/15/2016 12:59 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > > The same basic WD1000 or WD1001 controller design, with
> > > > customization, was used in the Fortune 32:16 and ACD HDC-1001.
> > > > Probably others as well.
> > >
> > > It was used in a *lot* of machines back then.  Heck, I even used one
> > > on my IBM 5150 with a Shugart SA-1001 drive.
> > >
> > > --Chuck
> > >
> >

Re: ISO Xebec S1410A fw #104792 or 104793

[Alexandre Souza]

What about a rom cataloging site? Is it feasible?


2016-11-15 22:36 GMT-02:00 Santo Nucifora :

> Hi Al,
>
> I don't have those particular board with the firmware but I posted a bunch
> of pics of what I have here, if it helps as you go through more.
>
> http://vintagecomputer.ca/bridgeboards-gallery/
>
> Hope this helps,
> Santo
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Chuck Guzis  wrote:
>
> > On 11/15/2016 12:59 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> >
> > > The same basic WD1000 or WD1001 controller design, with
> > > customization, was used in the Fortune 32:16 and ACD HDC-1001.
> > > Probably others as well.
> >
> > It was used in a *lot* of machines back then.  Heck, I even used one on
> > my IBM 5150 with a Shugart SA-1001 drive.
> >
> > --Chuck
> >
>

Re: ISO Xebec S1410A fw #104792 or 104793

[Santo Nucifora]

Hi Al,

I don't have those particular board with the firmware but I posted a bunch
of pics of what I have here, if it helps as you go through more.

http://vintagecomputer.ca/bridgeboards-gallery/

Hope this helps,
Santo

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Chuck Guzis  wrote:

> On 11/15/2016 12:59 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
>
> > The same basic WD1000 or WD1001 controller design, with
> > customization, was used in the Fortune 32:16 and ACD HDC-1001.
> > Probably others as well.
>
> It was used in a *lot* of machines back then.  Heck, I even used one on
> my IBM 5150 with a Shugart SA-1001 drive.
>
> --Chuck
>

Re: ISO Xebec S1410A fw #104792 or 104793

[Chuck Guzis]

On 11/15/2016 12:59 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

> The same basic WD1000 or WD1001 controller design, with
> customization, was used in the Fortune 32:16 and ACD HDC-1001.
> Probably others as well.

It was used in a *lot* of machines back then.  Heck, I even used one on
my IBM 5150 with a Shugart SA-1001 drive.

--Chuck

Re: ISO Xebec S1410A fw #104792 or 104793

[Eric Smith]

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Al Kossow  wrote:

> The two WD machines that used these that I can think of were in the
> Kaypro 10 and one of the TRS-80s, maybe the Xerox 820-II?
>

Radio Shack used a slightly modified version of the WD1000 controller
board, which added a write-protect feature, for the TRS-80 models 1, 2, 3,
4, 16, and 6000.  The controller was mounted in the master drive.

The same basic WD1000 or WD1001 controller design, with customization, was
used in the Fortune 32:16 and ACD HDC-1001.  Probably others as well.

Re: ISO Xebec S1410A fw #104792 or 104793

[Al Kossow]

On 11/15/16 11:25 AM, Eric Smith wrote:

> Although they're not SASI or SCSI, while you're collecting such things, it
> might also be nice to collect firmware from WD1000-nn and WD1001-nn
> (numeric suffix) disk controllers with the 50-pin general-purpose host
> interface, and which use the 8X300 or 8X305 processor with bipolar PROMs.
> 

The two WD machines that used these that I can think of were in the
Kaypro 10 and one of the TRS-80s, maybe the Xerox 820-II?

Maybe others would be willing to help with this.
I have dumped the 8x30x roms from the VME-10, MVME320, Xerox 6085
and a couple of Multibus ones. Oh.. and SMS, of course.

Re: ISO Xebec S1410A fw #104792 or 104793

[Eric Smith]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Al Kossow  wrote:

> I just started cataloging and dumping firmware my SASI/SCSI disk and tape
> boards
> starting with Xebec. It would be nice to find images for the two alternate
> fw
> proms for the S1410A, particularly the 8k 104793 version so I can compare
> it to
> the one used on the S1420
>

Although they're not SASI or SCSI, while you're collecting such things, it
might also be nice to collect firmware from WD1000-nn and WD1001-nn
(numeric suffix) disk controllers with the 50-pin general-purpose host
interface, and which use the 8X300 or 8X305 processor with bipolar PROMs.

Some OEMs did use the WD 8X300/305 design with customized host interfacing,
including Radio Shack and Fortune.

The later WD100n-xx[n] (alphanumeric suffix) controllers for IBM PC and AT
buses use the WD1010 or WD2010 controller chips rather than an 8x300/305
processor, so they don't really have the same kind of firmware to be dumped
as the earlier controllers. Some of them do use a mask-programmed 8052,
numbered WD1017.

Re: ISO Xebec S1410A fw #104792 or 104793

[Al Kossow]

yes, thanks.
I have pictures up now for the S1401 and S1420, still need to do S1410 and 
S1410A

On 11/14/16 3:53 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2016, at 05:57, Al Kossow  wrote:
>>
>> I just started cataloging and dumping firmware my SASI/SCSI disk and tape 
>> boards
>> starting with Xebec. It would be nice to find images for the two alternate fw
>> proms for the S1410A, particularly the 8k 104793 version so I can compare it 
>> to
>> the one used on the S1420
> 
> I think I have an S1410 with 104521F. Do you have that one already?
> 
> 

Re: ISO Xebec S1410A fw #104792 or 104793

[Mark J. Blair]

> On Nov 14, 2016, at 05:57, Al Kossow  wrote:
> 
> I just started cataloging and dumping firmware my SASI/SCSI disk and tape 
> boards
> starting with Xebec. It would be nice to find images for the two alternate fw
> proms for the S1410A, particularly the 8k 104793 version so I can compare it 
> to
> the one used on the S1420

I think I have an S1410 with 104521F. Do you have that one already?


-- 
Mark J. Blair, NF6X 
http://www.nf6x.net/