Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Eric Smith via cctalk]

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:35 AM Norman Jaffe via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> I hope that you mean 'hardware porn', not 'hardcore porn'... :)
>

Trivia: for a while in the mid-to-late 1990s, a Google search for "computer
porn" had as the number one result one of my web pages, of that title,
containing images of computers with covers removed. I could see from the
server log that the search was fairly popular, but nevertheless I believe
that most of the people doing the search were not satisfied with the result.

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Liam Proven via cctalk]

On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 13:55, Chris Elmquist  wrote:
>
> This might be one of those jokes that if you have to explain it, it looses 
> the punch ...  but I’ll try,
>
> There used to also be something called a Hong Kong Whore House, similarly 
> staffed with young Asian women, but they didn’t make core planes there.

I've been to HK and I was never aware of this! Thank you for the
clarification. :-D

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Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Chris Elmquist via cctalk]

> On Apr 11, 2020, at 4:33 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 04:05, Chris Elmquist via cctalk
>  wrote:
>> 
>> CDC had a memory manufacturing facility in SE Asia, staffed with mostly 
>> young Asian women.
>> An older colleague at ETA helped set it up (he just passed away; RIP Carl).
>> 
>> He called it the Hong Kong Core House.
> 
> There's a few mentioned of this here and there around the web, e.g.
> 
> http://bjruss.com/SAGE.html
> 
> & in
> 
> https://books.google.cz/books?id=Q7ffAwAAQBAJ=PA102=nkzF7wQT4i=%22Hong%20Kong%20Core%20House%22=PA103#v=onepage=%22Hong%20Kong%20Core%20House%22=false
> 
> What I don't get is why pleasingly-assonant phrase causes the great
> amusement it seems to. I think it's a reference to something else I
> don't know. Can anyone give me a pointer?

This might be one of those jokes that if you have to explain it, it looses the 
punch ...  but I’ll try,

There used to also be something called a Hong Kong Whore House, similarly 
staffed with young Asian women, but they didn’t make core planes there.

—
Chris Elmquist 

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Liam Proven via cctalk]

On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 04:05, Chris Elmquist via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> CDC had a memory manufacturing facility in SE Asia, staffed with mostly young 
> Asian women.
> An older colleague at ETA helped set it up (he just passed away; RIP Carl).
>
> He called it the Hong Kong Core House.

There's a few mentioned of this here and there around the web, e.g.

http://bjruss.com/SAGE.html

& in

https://books.google.cz/books?id=Q7ffAwAAQBAJ=PA102=nkzF7wQT4i=%22Hong%20Kong%20Core%20House%22=PA103#v=onepage=%22Hong%20Kong%20Core%20House%22=false

What I don't get is why pleasingly-assonant phrase causes the great
amusement it seems to. I think it's a reference to something else I
don't know. Can anyone give me a pointer?

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Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Paul Anderson via cctalk]

That should have been 2 different naked minis.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:42 PM Paul Anderson  wrote:

> I have two unused different models here.I can text pics if you want. If
> you want to make an offer,
>  contact me off list.
>
> Paul
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:43 PM Nigel Johnson via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> How about a CA Naked Mini, I may have a picture somewhere!
>>
>> On 09/04/2020 13:42, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
>> > MOST of the other PDP machines use the XX2247 key, which is a
>> > tubular one.
>> > But, THIS thread is about the weird one that is NOT tubular.
>>  Here is my locksmith-cut 11/05 key attached to my pdp11 keyfob:
>>  https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3110483
>> >>> The key fob is pretty cool!
>> >>
>> >> But, we like hardcore porn.
>> >> How about some pictures of the machine?
>> >> (key in the lock, with covers off, and panels open!)
>> >
>> > On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, Norman Jaffe wrote:
>> >> I hope that you mean 'hardware porn', not 'hardcore porn'... :)
>> >
>> > We like hardcore hardware.
>> > Got any pictures of bare core planes?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
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>> MSc., MIEEE, MCSE
>> VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU
>>
>> Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept!
>>
>>
>> You can reach me by voice on Skype:  TILBURY2591
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>>
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>> any number of system administrators along the way.
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>>
>>
>> Please consider the environment when deciding if you really need to print
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>>

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Paul Anderson via cctalk]

I have two unused different models here.I can text pics if you want. If you
want to make an offer,
 contact me off list.

Paul

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:43 PM Nigel Johnson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> How about a CA Naked Mini, I may have a picture somewhere!
>
> On 09/04/2020 13:42, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> > MOST of the other PDP machines use the XX2247 key, which is a
> > tubular one.
> > But, THIS thread is about the weird one that is NOT tubular.
>  Here is my locksmith-cut 11/05 key attached to my pdp11 keyfob:
>  https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3110483
> >>> The key fob is pretty cool!
> >>
> >> But, we like hardcore porn.
> >> How about some pictures of the machine?
> >> (key in the lock, with covers off, and panels open!)
> >
> > On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, Norman Jaffe wrote:
> >> I hope that you mean 'hardware porn', not 'hardcore porn'... :)
> >
> > We like hardcore hardware.
> > Got any pictures of bare core planes?
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Nigel Johnson
> MSc., MIEEE, MCSE
> VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU
>
> Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept!
>
>
> You can reach me by voice on Skype:  TILBURY2591
>
> If time travel ever will be possible, it already is. Ask me again yesterday
>
> This e-mail is not and cannot, by its nature, be confidential. En route
> from me to you, it will pass across the public Internet, easily readable by
> any number of system administrators along the way.
> Nigel Johnson 
>
>
> Please consider the environment when deciding if you really need to print
> this message
>
>
>
>

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Chris Elmquist via cctalk]

CDC had a memory manufacturing facility in SE Asia, staffed with mostly young 
Asian women.
An older colleague at ETA helped set it up (he just passed away; RIP Carl).

He called it the Hong Kong Core House.

--
Chris Elmquist

> On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
> MOST of the other PDP machines use the XX2247 key, which is a tubular one.
> But, THIS thread is about the weird one that is NOT tubular.
 Here is my locksmith-cut 11/05 key attached to my pdp11 keyfob:
 https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3110483
>>> The key fob is pretty cool!
>> 
>> But, we like hardcore porn.
>> How about some pictures of the machine?
>> (key in the lock, with covers off, and panels open!)
> 
>> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, Norman Jaffe wrote:
>> I hope that you mean 'hardware porn', not 'hardcore porn'... :)
> 
> We like hardcore hardware.
> Got any pictures of bare core planes?
> 

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Nigel Johnson via cctalk]

How about a CA Naked Mini, I may have a picture somewhere!

On 09/04/2020 13:42, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
MOST of the other PDP machines use the XX2247 key, which is a 
tubular one.

But, THIS thread is about the weird one that is NOT tubular.

Here is my locksmith-cut 11/05 key attached to my pdp11 keyfob:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3110483

The key fob is pretty cool!


But, we like hardcore porn.
How about some pictures of the machine?
(key in the lock, with covers off, and panels open!)


On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, Norman Jaffe wrote:

I hope that you mean 'hardware porn', not 'hardcore porn'... :)


We like hardcore hardware.
Got any pictures of bare core planes?


 


--
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MSc., MIEEE, MCSE
VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU

Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept!


You can reach me by voice on Skype:  TILBURY2591

If time travel ever will be possible, it already is. Ask me again yesterday

This e-mail is not and cannot, by its nature, be confidential. En route from me 
to you, it will pass across the public Internet, easily readable by any number 
of system administrators along the way.
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Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

MOST of the other PDP machines use the XX2247 key, which is a tubular one.
But, THIS thread is about the weird one that is NOT tubular.

Here is my locksmith-cut 11/05 key attached to my pdp11 keyfob:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3110483

The key fob is pretty cool!


But, we like hardcore porn.
How about some pictures of the machine?
(key in the lock, with covers off, and panels open!)


On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, Norman Jaffe wrote:

I hope that you mean 'hardware porn', not 'hardcore porn'... :)


We like hardcore hardware.
Got any pictures of bare core planes?

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Will Cooke via cctalk]

> On April 9, 2020 at 12:35 PM Norman Jaffe via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> I hope that you mean 'hardware porn', not 'hardcore porn'... :)
> 
> But, we like hardcore porn.How about some pictures of the machine?(key in the 
> lock, with covers off, and panels open!)

I've never seen ferrite that wasn't hard.

Will

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Norman Jaffe via cctalk]

I hope that you mean 'hardware porn', not 'hardcore porn'... :) 


From: "cctalk"  
To: "cctalk"  
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 10:22:43 AM 
Subject: Re: pdp11/05 key? 

> On 4/9/20 2:56 AM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: 
>> Right said Fred: 
>>> MOST of the other PDP machines use the XX2247 key, which is a tubular one. 
>>> But, THIS thread is about the weird one that is NOT tubular. 
>> Here is my locksmith-cut 11/05 key attached to my pdp11 keyfob: 
>> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3110483 
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, Tom Uban via cctalk wrote: 
> The key fob is pretty cool! 

But, we like hardcore porn. 
How about some pictures of the machine? 
(key in the lock, with covers off, and panels open!) 

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Tom Uban via cctalk]

On 4/9/20 2:56 AM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote:
> Right said Fred:
>> MOST of the other PDP machines use the XX2247 key, which is a tubular one.
>> But, THIS thread is about the weird one that is NOT tubular.
> Here is my locksmith-cut 11/05 key attached to my pdp11 keyfob:
> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3110483
>
> Steve.
>
>
The key fob is pretty cool!

--tom

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote:
Late to the party, but there’s PDP11 keys sold on ebay here: 
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DEC-PDP-8-PDP-11-Computer-Key-XX2247-Digital-PDP-8E-8I-8L-8S/333296145346?epid=2164686531=item4d99ff93c2:g:nWcAAOSwZtlZ7TIB 

I’m 100% sure your local locksmith / cobblers / hardware shop can do 
it cheaper.


MOST of the other PDP machines use the XX2247 key, which is a tubular one.
But, THIS thread is about the weird one that is NOT tubular.


I have a few padlocks that use tubular keys.  I've been considering 
rekeying them to XX2247, and using one for my shed, since I don't think 
that the thieves around here are into obsolete computers.

I've never re-pinned a tubular lock, so it might be fun.

--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Dennis Boone via cctalk]

 > Late to the party, but there’s PDP11 keys sold on ebay here:

Though that may be useful to many, it's the wrong key for this thread.

De

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Joshua Rice via cctalk]

Late to the party, but there’s PDP11 keys sold on ebay here: 
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DEC-PDP-8-PDP-11-Computer-Key-XX2247-Digital-PDP-8E-8I-8L-8S/333296145346?epid=2164686531=item4d99ff93c2:g:nWcAAOSwZtlZ7TIB
 


I’m 100% sure your local locksmith / cobblers / hardware shop can do it 
cheaper. 

> On Apr 7, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
>> From: Ian McLaughlin
> 
>> I can confirm that about 6 months ago I gave this very information to
>> our corporate locksmith, and he was able to make a key for me that
>> works.
> 
> Thanks for the confirmation that that info is sufficient to produce a working
> key. I have updated the page to indicate that the info has been confirmed.
> 
>   Noel

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Noel Chiappa via cctalk]

> From: Ian McLaughlin

> I can confirm that about 6 months ago I gave this very information to
> our corporate locksmith, and he was able to make a key for me that
> works.

Thanks for the confirmation that that info is sufficient to produce a working
key. I have updated the page to indicate that the info has been confirmed.

Noel

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Tom Uban via cctalk]

Thanks all. The local locksmith should be able to make me a new one from
the information you've all posted.

--tom

On 4/5/20 7:39 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> From: Tom Uban
>
> > Does anyone have information on having a replacement PDP-11/05 key made?
>
> Google is your friend; here:
>
> https://gunkies.org/wiki/PDP-11/05#Keys
>
> I don't recall if there's anough info there to create new keys without an
> original to copy. At one point I made a run of copies (after posting a call
> here); I suppose I could do so again.
>
>   Noel
>
>

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:

   https://gunkies.org/wiki/PDP-11/05#Keys
I don't recall if there's anough info there to create new keys without an
original to copy. At one point I made a run of copies (after posting a call
here); I suppose I could do so again.


On Sun, 5 Apr 2020, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:

The key is a Chicago GRB2: cut 215 on an Ilco S1041T.  You can use a
1041T and cut it down.


If you have a "depth and space" book and know how to "code cut" keys, 
that's enough.  Depth and space data of where the cuts go, and how deep 
the 2 1 5 cuts are is needed.


Is SOME jurisdictions, it is "illegal" to code cut a key without PROOF 
that the requester owns the lock, such as lugging the machine, or at least 
the lock in the door, and possibly also having to provide a letter on 
company letterhead!


--
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Dennis Boone via cctalk]

 > Does anyone have information on having a replacement PDP-11/05 key
 > made?

I believe I can make these.  I'd like to have a test.  May I send you
one?

The key is a Chicago GRB2: cut 215 on an Ilco S1041T.  You can use a
1041T and cut it down.

De

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Ian McLaughlin via cctalk]

I can confirm that about 6 months ago I gave this very information to our 
corporate locksmith, and he was able to make a key for me that works.  He 
thought it such an unusual and worthy request that he did it for free :)

Ian


> On Apr 5, 2020, at 5:39 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
>From: Tom Uban
> 
>> Does anyone have information on having a replacement PDP-11/05 key made?
> 
> Google is your friend; here:
> 
>https://gunkies.org/wiki/PDP-11/05#Keys
> 
> I don't recall if there's anough info there to create new keys without an
> original to copy. At one point I made a run of copies (after posting a call
> here); I suppose I could do so again.
> 
>   Noel
> 
> 

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Bill Degnan via cctalk]

That's what I did, file one down.
Bill

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 7:06 AM Steve Malikoff via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Tom said
> > Does anyone have information on having a replacement PDP-11/05 key made?
> >
> > --tnx
> > --tom
>
>
> There is a bloke in France(?) who can apparently do them
> https://sites.google.com/site/conservatique/keys
>
> I managed to borrow one and my local Mister Minit keycutter had no trouble
> matching
> the blank. It is a very short key and the pattern is very simple, you
> could probably
> file one down if it matches the cross section. I could take some close-up
> photos of my
> working copy (I posted the original back to its owner) if you really
> needed them.
>
> Steve.
>
>
>

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Noel Chiappa via cctalk]

From: Tom Uban

> Does anyone have information on having a replacement PDP-11/05 key made?

Google is your friend; here:

https://gunkies.org/wiki/PDP-11/05#Keys

I don't recall if there's anough info there to create new keys without an
original to copy. At one point I made a run of copies (after posting a call
here); I suppose I could do so again.

Noel

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Doug Jackson via cctalk]

I'm literally in the process of starting this.

I have a pdp11/05 and the key was snapped off.  I brazed it back together.

The barrel is a three wafer unit.  It is easily removable by undoing the 4
screws to remove the front panel.  Removing the screws holding the micro
switches in place and removing the lock retaining plate.

I was going to take the key and barrel to a local locksmith for him to make
some spares.

Doug

On Sun, 5 Apr. 2020, 6:18 pm Tom Uban via cctalk, 
wrote:

> Does anyone have information on having a replacement PDP-11/05 key made?
>
> --tnx
> --tom
>

Re: pdp11/05 key?

[Steve Malikoff via cctalk]

Tom said
> Does anyone have information on having a replacement PDP-11/05 key made?
>
> --tnx
> --tom


There is a bloke in France(?) who can apparently do them
https://sites.google.com/site/conservatique/keys

I managed to borrow one and my local Mister Minit keycutter had no trouble 
matching
the blank. It is a very short key and the pattern is very simple, you could 
probably
file one down if it matches the cross section. I could take some close-up 
photos of my
working copy (I posted the original back to its owner) if you really needed 
them.

Steve.