Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[steve shumaker via cctalk]

On 7/18/2017 11:33 AM, Al Kossow via cctech wrote:


On 7/16/17 7:44 PM, steve shumaker via cctalk wrote:


Actually that does trigger a thought... Is there a (simple) way to get a list 
of the scanned ones?

fgrep _dataB IndexByDate.txt |sort -k 3

gets you a sorted list the current uploaded pdfs that are filed as data books

IndexByDate.txt gets recreated at least once a day after I've uploaded a batch 
of pdfs

There are a few hundred more data books scanned but not pdf-ed and uploaded yet




works for me!   thanks.


steve

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

On 7/16/17 7:44 PM, steve shumaker via cctalk wrote:

> Actually that does trigger a thought... Is there a (simple) way to get a list 
> of the scanned ones?
fgrep _dataB IndexByDate.txt |sort -k 3

gets you a sorted list the current uploaded pdfs that are filed as data books

IndexByDate.txt gets recreated at least once a day after I've uploaded a batch 
of pdfs

There are a few hundred more data books scanned but not pdf-ed and uploaded yet

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

either.

dealing with a truckload of data books for the past month and trying to
find all of them in storage to try to see an end to something I've been
working on for over 15 years has pushed me over the edge.

On 7/17/17 8:02 AM, Toby Thain wrote:
> On 2017-07-17 10:11 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm not actively soliciting any donations for bitsavers currently
>> because I already have a several year backlog
> 
> Paper, digital, or either?

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Toby Thain via cctalk]

On 2017-07-17 10:11 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:



I'm not actively soliciting any donations for bitsavers currently
because I already have a several year backlog


Paper, digital, or either?

--T



On 7/16/17 7:44 PM, steve shumaker via cctalk wrote:

find the ones you're
missing.

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

I'm not actively soliciting any donations for bitsavers currently
because I already have a several year backlog

On 7/16/17 7:44 PM, steve shumaker via cctalk wrote:
> find the ones you're
> missing.

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[steve shumaker via cctalk]

On 7/15/2017 2:16 PM, Sam O'nella via cctech wrote:

Celebrate with a cake with 8 candles (1000)
Thats great. I guess i should scour the archives and maybe im holding on to 
original books that arent as important anymore.
null



Actually that does trigger a thought... Is there a (simple) way to get a 
list of the scanned ones?   Most everyone here has a few... ranging from 
one or two to one or two rooms full... that would make it easier to 
find the ones you're missing.


steve

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Sam O'nella via cctalk]

Celebrate with a cake with 8 candles (1000) 
Thats great. I guess i should scour the archives and maybe im holding on to 
original books that arent as important anymore.
null

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

On 7/14/17 1:42 PM, Tomasz Rola wrote:


> So what is the title of a lucky manual?
> 

toshiba/_dataBooks/1988_Toshiba_TLCS-68000_Users_Manual.pdf

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Tomasz Rola via cctalk]

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 01:03:56PM -0700, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> As of this morning, there are now over a thousand data books on
> bitsavers, and well over four million pages in all of the pdfs
> there.

Thank you.

So what is the title of a lucky manual?

-- 
Regards,
Tomasz Rola

--
** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature.  **
** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home**
** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened...  **
** **
** Tomasz Rola  mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com **

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Jason Scott via cctalk]

Hurrah!

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk  wrote:

> As of this morning, there are now over a thousand data books on bitsavers,
> and well over four
> million pages in all of the pdfs there.
>
> In the middle of June, I got my fifth large databook collection, and
> didn't have space for it,
> so I've been doing dedup/recycling and scanning of what I hadn't already
> done to try to deal with
> having it come in.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

Many databooks I find are printed on the fragile "telephone book" type
paper, either transparent, beige or both.  Do you have any techniques
for getting good images out of those, and making sure they survive the
trip through the ADF?
Always scan those monochrome.  (A lot of people insist on color 
scanning of black and white materials)

On Fri, 14 Jul 2017, Paul Koning wrote:
You mean grayscale, right -- not bitonal.  I sometimes scan on 
copier/scanner units because they happen to be available, but they are 
often bitonal and produce images with lots of black noise pixels.  With 
grayscale scans, you can avoid those by tweaking the threshold and/or 
adjusting the curves.


Yes.
Although SOME scanners have good threshold levels for bitonal.

What I object to is people who insist on 24 bit color with lossless 
compression.  We are after the information content here, not a study of 
paper texture and analysis of aging/deterioration.


Sometimes a lossy compression will try to delete some of the noise, 
whereas a lossless compression will retain it.



"Doctor Marty" (formerly Coco) runs a large project digitizing some 
periodicals from the 1920s and 1930s.

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Paul Koning via cctalk]

> On Jul 14, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
>> Many databooks I find are printed on the fragile "telephone book" type
>> paper, either transparent, beige or both.  Do you have any techniques
>> for getting good images out of those, and making sure they survive the
>> trip through the ADF?
> 
> Always scan those monochrome.  (A lot of people insist on color scanning of 
> black and white materials)

You mean grayscale, right -- not bitonal.  I sometimes scan on copier/scanner 
units because they happen to be available, but they are often bitonal and 
produce images with lots of black noise pixels.  With grayscale scans, you can 
avoid those by tweaking the threshold and/or adjusting the curves.

paul

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Fred Cisin via cctalk]

Many databooks I find are printed on the fragile "telephone book" type
paper, either transparent, beige or both.  Do you have any techniques
for getting good images out of those, and making sure they survive the
trip through the ADF?


Always scan those monochrome.  (A lot of people insist on color scanning 
of black and white materials)


Some scanners have a built-in red filter that helps with yellowed paper.

Transparent/translucent materials will often do substantially better with 
a black pressure pad on the back, instead of white.

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

On 7/13/17 10:11 PM, Jason T via cctalk wrote:

> Many databooks I find are printed on the fragile "telephone book" type
> paper, either transparent, beige or both.  Do you have any techniques
> for getting good images out of those, and making sure they survive the
> trip through the ADF?
> 

I've worked out settings on my Panasonic KV-S3065CW that work ok. between
the brittleness and bleed-through, the old ones are a challenge. They also
need to be scanned at 600dpi because of the fine print, which can be pretty
noisy without adjusting the built-in noise removal. It also runs the feed
slower which helps. There isn't any way to get around hand feeding the sheets
though, because any bit of leftover glue sticking the pages together can
crumple the second sheet.

Re: Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Jason T via cctalk]

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk
 wrote:
> As of this morning, there are now over a thousand data books on bitsavers, 
> and well over four
> million pages in all of the pdfs there.

Huzzah!  I don't think there's anyone else doing these, and certainly
not at anywhere near that volume.  I have a few random ones that I
will be sure to check against Bitsavers before I chop up.

Many databooks I find are printed on the fragile "telephone book" type
paper, either transparent, beige or both.  Do you have any techniques
for getting good images out of those, and making sure they survive the
trip through the ADF?

Thousandth data book uploaded to bitsavers

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

As of this morning, there are now over a thousand data books on bitsavers, and 
well over four
million pages in all of the pdfs there.

In the middle of June, I got my fifth large databook collection, and didn't 
have space for it,
so I've been doing dedup/recycling and scanning of what I hadn't already done 
to try to deal with
having it come in.