Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-30 Thread Richard Cini via cctalk
: Paul Koning via cctalk; Grant Taylor; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11? I apologize if this has been mentioned. http://shop-pdp.net/rthtml/tcpip.php Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:25 AM, Paul Koni

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-30 Thread John Forecast via cctalk
> On Apr 30, 2019, at 9:25 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > > > >> On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> On 4/29/19 6:47 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: >>> I want to say that the OSU webserver for VMS supports running over DECnet, >>> but my memory

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-30 Thread Brian Roth via cctalk
I apologize if this has been mentioned.  http://shop-pdp.net/rthtml/tcpip.php Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:25 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > On 4/29/19 6:47 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-30 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > On 4/29/19 6:47 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: >> I want to say that the OSU webserver for VMS supports running over DECnet, >> but my memory could be faulty. I’ve only used WASD on VMS. > > I think this sounds like a

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-30 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 4/29/19 10:19 PM, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote: > If you get 2.11BSD up and going (which would require a CPU upgrade, it > won't run on the F11, needs split I+D), you can run a *native* IRC client! > One of the guys on #vc has written a minimalist IRC client that compiles > and runs on

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-29 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
If you get 2.11BSD up and going (which would require a CPU upgrade, it won't run on the F11, needs split I+D), you can run a *native* IRC client! One of the guys on #vc has written a minimalist IRC client that compiles and runs on 2.11BSD on the PDP-11. AFAIK, there was no TCP/IP stack for the

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-29 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/29/19 6:47 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: I want to say that the OSU webserver for VMS supports running over DECnet, but my memory could be faulty. I’ve only used WASD on VMS. I think this sounds like a neat ~> fun thing to do. But how does a web server run over DECnet? I guess

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-29 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Apr 29, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > > I've been thinking it would be neat (strange?) to have HTTP client/server > running over DECnet instead of TCP. Object number would be 80, of course. > > On Ultrix it seems this should be quite easy, given that it has

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
I've been thinking it would be neat (strange?) to have HTTP client/server running over DECnet instead of TCP. Object number would be 80, of course. On Ultrix it seems this should be quite easy, given that it has "stream mode" DECnet sockets that act very much like TCP streams. paul

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-29 Thread Richard Cini via cctalk
Ok, that's good to know. Thanks. On 4/29/19, 8:29 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Cameron Kaiser via cctalk" wrote: > I'll have to see if I have the Gopher client installed on my disk image. > If not I'll install it and see how it goes. Great idea! The nice thing about Gopher is

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-29 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> I'll have to see if I have the Gopher client installed on my disk image. > If not I'll install it and see how it goes. Great idea! The nice thing about Gopher is that even if you don't, the protocol is so trivial to speak and parse menus that you could probably bang a simple client out in an

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-29 Thread Richard Cini via cctalk
I’ll have to see if I have the Gopher client installed on my disk image. If not I’ll install it and see how it goes. Great idea! Rich Get Outlook for iOS On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:25 AM -0400, "Cameron Kaiser via cctalk" wrote:

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-29 Thread Patrick Finnegan via cctalk
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 6:14 PM Richard Cini via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > So, for playing around, what can I practically do with this? Is it even > possible to access any Web sites (unconventional browsing for sure; I’ve > read about telnetting to port 80)? I’m sure email is

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-29 Thread Aaron Jackson via cctalk
There is a TCP/IP stack available for RT-11, although I've never tried it. It apparently works with both DEQNA and DELQA cards, and I suspect you've got one or the other in your 11/23. http://shop-pdp.net/rthtml/tcpip.php It is possible, but also very painful, to view websites using the telnet

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-29 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> >> Maybe it would be possible to get a text only browser running? > > > > I think Gopher would be a better fit, personally. That's easy to write, > > parse and display. > > > That might be true, but what sites still provide that service. Funny you should ask.

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-29 Thread allison via cctalk
On 04/29/2019 03:20 AM, ben via cctalk wrote: > On 4/28/2019 11:34 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: >>> Maybe it would be possible to get a text only browser running? >> >> I think Gopher would be a better fit, personally. That's easy to write, >> parse and display. >> > That might be true,

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-29 Thread Sean Conner via cctalk
It was thus said that the Great ben via cctalk once stated: > On 4/28/2019 11:34 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: > >>Maybe it would be possible to get a text only browser running? > > > >I think Gopher would be a better fit, personally. That's easy to write, > >parse and display. > > > That

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-29 Thread ben via cctalk
On 4/28/2019 11:34 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: Maybe it would be possible to get a text only browser running? I think Gopher would be a better fit, personally. That's easy to write, parse and display. That might be true, but what sites still provide that service. A web novel app

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-28 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> Maybe it would be possible to get a text only browser running? I think Gopher would be a better fit, personally. That's easy to write, parse and display. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com *

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-28 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On April 28, 2019 at 11:24 AM Richard Cini via cctech > wrote: > > So, for playing around, what can I practically do with this? Is it even > possible to access any Web sites (unconventional browsing for sure; I’ve read > about telnetting to port 80)? I’m sure email is possible, as is

Re: What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-28 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 5:24 PM Will Cooke via cctech wrote: > > > On April 28, 2019 at 11:24 AM Richard Cini via cctech < > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > > So, for playing around, what can I practically do with this? Is it even > possible to access any Web sites (unconventional browsing

What do to with an Internet-connected PDP-11?

2019-04-28 Thread Richard Cini via cctalk
All –     Over the last few months, I’ve built myself a nice little PDP-11/23 with a SCSI interface/drive, extra SLUs and Ethernet. With the help of a few people, I was able to get an Ethernet configuration running, which is kind of cool. It’s been a great learning process