Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-13 Thread GerardCJAT
@ simski, who wrote : >Hi, > Hmm. russian carsds. sounds interesting. I'm certainly interested in > their looks. could you post a scan of one of them? Well, they very much look ( and feel ) like original IBM ones, with : - Right angles : NO rounded corners - Characters printed : standard 0

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-12 Thread simon
Hi, Hmm. russian carsds. sounds interesting. I'm certainly interested in their looks. could you post a scan of one of them? On 12-09-15 10:36, GerardCJAT wrote: Shall I understand that some of you guys, are looking for blank punch/punched cards ?? I have about a hundred ( here in

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Al Kossow
On 9/10/15 4:38 AM, simon wrote: Hi All, just to let you know that i've made a vector graphics file for A hollerith punchcard. https://hack42.nl/wiki/Bestand:Punchcard.svg enjoy they are PUNCHED cards look at ALL of the documentation of the period NO ONE called them PUNCH cards

punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread simon
Hi All, just to let you know that i've made a vector graphics file for A hollerith punchcard. https://hack42.nl/wiki/Bestand:Punchcard.svg enjoy -- Met vriendelijke Groet, Simon Claessen drukknop.nl

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Lee Courtney
punchcard or PUNCH or PUNCHED card, still nice work. Thanks for sharing. Lee C. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 4:38 AM, simon wrote: > Hi All, > > just to let you know that i've made a vector graphics file for A hollerith > punchcard. > > https://hack42.nl/wiki/Bestand:Punchcard.svg >

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread William Donzelli
> btw. in the Netherlands where I live, they are called ponskaarten and are > nowhere to be find also. We only have one box of fresh cards and one box of > used cards with our IBM 029. Of course the unused cards stay in the depot > until we can do something usefull with them. That is why I made

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Al Kossow
On 9/10/15 8:54 AM, Simon Claessen wrote: Being right and being polite are two completely different things. And no one has ever accused me of being polite.

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Lee Courtney
Al - we accept that you are a CLI in a world of GUIs! :-) Lee C. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > On 9/10/15 8:54 AM, Simon Claessen wrote: > >> Being right and being polite are two completely different things. >> >> > And no one has ever accused me of

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread simon
A nice guy at greenkeys spotted an error in the printed characters. the c cedille should actually be a cent char. I fixed it. Simon On 10-09-15 17:54, Simon Claessen wrote: Hi Lee. Thanks. feel free to rename the file to anything you like. :-) I decided to ignore rude yelling people.

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/10/2015 11:47 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: In those days, the cardstock was extremely available, in large sheets and in precut blanks, in a variety of colors. Print-shops abounded who would do custom cards, if your business thought that it needed them. To me, the stock feels very similar to

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 05:54:45PM +0200, Simon Claessen wrote: > > btw. in the Netherlands where I live, they are called ponskaarten > The correct term is of course "hålkort" (hole cards) An unused stack went cheap on swedish ebay recently... perhaps I should have bought them. /P

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Liam Proven
On 10 September 2015 at 15:42, Fred Cisin wrote: > He also said that the colored pencils that I manually did graphs > with were "COLOUR PENCILS". Sounds legit to me. But then in the old world we still spell the proper, old-fashioned-way. ;¬) -- Liam Proven • Profile:

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Kyle Owen
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > look at ALL of the documentation of the period > NO ONE called them PUNCH cards Section 7: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/burroughs/200-21001B_B200_SeriesRefMan_Jul64.pdf "Punch card stock" "punch card

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Paul Koning
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > On 9/10/15 4:38 AM, simon wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> just to let you know that i've made a vector graphics file for A >> hollerith punchcard. >> >> https://hack42.nl/wiki/Bestand:Punchcard.svg >> >> enjoy > > they are

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 9/10/2015 2:04 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > On 09/10/2015 11:47 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > > To me, the stock feels very similar to the stock used for our > vote-by-mail mark-sense ballots here in Oregon. > Or the infamous "hanging chad" punch(ed) ;) cards from son of Bush's first election. I

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Joseph Lang
I agree. But the ATB spec IS punch card stock. Picked for all the reasons you listed. They make lots of it. Joe On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:41 PM, William Donzelli wrote: >> The card stock should be available. It's 90 lb card stock. The same stuff >> ATB airline tickets are

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/10/2015 02:32 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: Or the infamous "hanging chad" punch(ed) ;) cards from son of Bush's first election. I got an operational Documation card reader from Texas a few years back that was retired as a result of that fiaso. Oregon is a vote-by-mail state exclusively.

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Fred Cisin
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015, Joseph Lang wrote: It takes that long because the clerks have no idea what tab does. Watch somebody who does and see how fast they can fill in a form. Mouse actually slows down data entry a lot. yes. Is there any reason why driver's license number couldn't be entered, to

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Fred Cisin
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015, Joseph Lang wrote: The card stock should be available. It's 90 lb card stock. The same stuff ATB airline tickets are printed on. The die to cut to size May cost a bit Conventional paper shear for sides, ends, and corner, plus conventional corner rounding on three

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 9/10/2015 5:29 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > On 09/10/2015 02:32 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > Which reminds me--I went over to the local DMV to renew my "papers". > Since the terrorism craze, the state has changed the rules for verifying > identity to now include a birth certificate (heaven knows why).

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread William Donzelli
> The card stock should be available. It's 90 lb card stock. The same stuff ATB > airline tickets are printed on. > The die to cut to size May cost a bit No, it it very specialized. There is much more than thickness to consider - friction, durability, stiffness, hygroscopic-ness,

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread William Donzelli
> I agree. But the ATB spec IS punch card stock. Picked for all the reasons you > listed. They make lots of it. I would love to be proven wrong, but I do not think that is true anymore. I think the stock spec changed in the 1980s when the magnetic strip was added (which might be enough to screw

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread William Donzelli
> The card stock should be available. It's 90 lb card stock. The same stuff ATB > airline tickets are printed on. > The die to cut to size May cost a bit Also, cutting to size should not be a problem. Any modern print shop should have a nice big computer controlled paper cutter that would do

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Jay Jaeger
On 9/10/2015 6:02 PM, Joseph Lang wrote: > Lazy programmers. Poor specs for project. Clueless project managers. > Doesn't seem a simple database query should be all that hard. > > Don't get me started on that real ID garbage. Not one piece of required > "proof" included a photo > > Joe >

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Joseph Lang
The card stock should be available. It's 90 lb card stock. The same stuff ATB airline tickets are printed on. The die to cut to size May cost a bit Joe > On Sep 10, 2015, at 12:56 PM, simon wrote: > > Its hard to explain. it feels tough and bendable, but it is thinner as

Re: punchcard svg file available

2015-09-10 Thread Paul Koning
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Sean Caron wrote: > > I have a few old ... let's just say Hollerith cards ... LOL ... and the > stock feels a little reminiscent of that of a manilla folder or 3x5 card, > but slightly thicker. It's kind of an odd basis weight ... too heavy for >