Re: Origin of 'Straight 8' name

2018-12-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctech

On Fri, 21 Dec 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctech wrote:

I suspect the same common connection to "turbo", popularized by the auto
marketeers.
On the other hand, I've never seen a computer advertised with  a
"Turbo-Hydra-Matic" or "Dynaflow" feature.


such as "turbo LAG"

Should look around the yards for insignia, such as the Subaru
"Turbo XT 16"


Re: Origin of 'Straight 8' name

2018-12-21 Thread William Donzelli via cctech
> Could be--but I was pointed out that "straight eight" was an automotive
> term familiar to the laity that pre-dated DEC by a goodly number of
> years.  We live in a world dominated by automobile marketing.

Some points to ponder:

The term Straight-9 is basically never heard when referring to the
PDP-9 and not a PDP-9/L.

The term "Winchester disk" is another example of name coined after
another deeply embedded cultural term having nothing to do with
computing.

--
Will


Re: Origin of 'Straight 8' name

2018-12-21 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctech
On 12/21/18 11:32 AM, allison via cctech wrote:

> And the automotive reference was not it.  It was the straight as in not
> later lettered
> versions.  Best similar use is:  Whiskey straight, water on the side.

Could be--but I was pointed out that "straight eight" was an automotive
term familiar to the laity that pre-dated DEC by a goodly number of
years.  We live in a world dominated by automobile marketing.

I suspect the same common connection to "turbo", popularized by the auto
marketeers.

On the other hand, I've never seen a computer advertised with  a
"Turbo-Hydra-Matic" or "Dynaflow" feature.

--Chuck


Re: Origin of 'Straight 8' name

2018-12-21 Thread allison via cctech
On 12/21/2018 01:10 PM, Al Kossow via cctech wrote:
>
> On 12/21/18 10:03 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>
>> "Straight-8" seems to be a fairly modern name coming from collectors
>>
>> I never heard it called that before then.
> Anyone feel like doing a alt.sys.pdp-8 search for it by date?
>
> I don't feel like going down the rathole of trying to find a way to
> search Usenet by date right now.
>
>
Not I, that is a deep hole to dredge.  I do know it was a clear way to
differentiate the various
family of 8 machines and it was on alt.sys.pdp-8 I'd seen it way back
like mid 80s.
It may have been old by then.  I used to peek there as my first PDP-8e
was in hand
around late 1983.

And the automotive reference was not it.  It was the straight as in not
later lettered
versions.  Best similar use is:  Whiskey straight, water on the side.

One of the DEC history things about the era was often engineering went
may different
directions at the same time  making for a plethora of systems that were
or mostly
PDP-8ish like the PDP-12 that was PDP-8 and LINK.  RICM has a really
pretty one.


Allison