Re: Care and feeding of some Lisp machines (TI Explorer and Xerox Star)

2020-09-14 Thread David Gesswein via cctech
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 03:35:50PM +0200, Michael Engel wrote: > > Before I start to disassemble and test the machines, I would be interested > to hear about specific problems you might have experienced bringing up one > of these two machines, preferably those on the unexpected side. > I

Re: Care and feeding of some Lisp machines (TI Explorer and Xerox Star)

2020-09-14 Thread Michael Engel via cctech
Another update on the Explorer mouse... > On 14 Sep 2020, at 21:39, Michael Engel via cctech > wrote: > > So it should be easy to build one in case I can't find the original one. It > seems that there was > also a later non-optical mouse version that looked similar to early Genius PC > mice.

Re: Care and feeding of some Lisp machines (TI Explorer and Xerox Star)

2020-09-14 Thread Michael Engel via cctech
Hi Josh, whow, seems it's my lucky day :) - thanks a lot for the offer! > On 14 Sep 2020, at 18:00, Josh Dersch wrote: > > I've restored a Star/1108 (and wrote a Star emulator) and am in the middle of > an Explorer restoration, I'm happy to help out where I can. > > I'd recommend picking up

Re: Care and feeding of some Lisp machines (TI Explorer and Xerox Star)

2020-09-14 Thread null via cctech
Regarding the mouse- it is a black Mouse Systems optical mouse, terminated in a two row IDC connector. If desired, I can take internal pictures and send along the pinout. Let me know. > On Sep 14, 2020, at 09:01, Josh Dersch via cctech > wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 6:35 AM Michael

Re: Care and feeding of some Lisp machines (TI Explorer and Xerox Star)

2020-09-14 Thread Michael Engel via cctech
Hi, thanks Ian - I think I found the pinout, it was hidden in TI's Display Unit General Description (http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ti/explorer/2243151-0001A_displ_Jun86.pdf), Fig. 4-6 - not in the Field Service Manual where I expected it... The mouse has a simple quadrature-encoded output (like

Re: Care and feeding of some Lisp machines (TI Explorer and Xerox Star)

2020-09-14 Thread Al Kossow via cctech
On 9/14/20 9:00 AM, Josh Dersch via cctech wrote: One issue is weak picture tubes in the displays -- the monitors are powered on with the system and have no separate off switch, so they tended to get a lot of hours put on them. We had good luck with a tube rejuvenator on the one we restored at

Re: Care and feeding of some Lisp machines (TI Explorer and Xerox Star)

2020-09-14 Thread Josh Dersch via cctech
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 6:35 AM Michael Engel via cctech < cctech@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi, > > for a planned exhibition, I am thinking of restoring two of the machines > to working state again that are in storage here for decades: > > - A TI Explorer ("Sperry" labeled) > and > - A Xerox Star

Re: Care and feeding of some Lisp machines (TI Explorer and Xerox Star)

2020-09-14 Thread Al Kossow via cctech
On 9/14/20 6:35 AM, Michael Engel via cctech wrote: Hi, for a planned exhibition, I am thinking of restoring two of the machines to working state again that are in storage here for decades: - A TI Explorer ("Sperry" labeled) and - A Xerox Star (no idea if ours actually ran Interlisp or one of

Care and feeding of some Lisp machines (TI Explorer and Xerox Star)

2020-09-14 Thread Michael Engel via cctech
Hi, for a planned exhibition, I am thinking of restoring two of the machines to working state again that are in storage here for decades: - A TI Explorer ("Sperry" labeled) and - A Xerox Star (no idea if ours actually ran Interlisp or one of the other OSes for the Star/Dandelion) There is