Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?
> > > > > > > Random question: > > Would you have bought this one if it were maroon instead of blue? > > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/DEC-PDP-11-70-Datasystem-570-/113553953503?nordt=true_cvip=true > > > As-is for $10K seems a little bit steep for a starting bid. But I haven't > tried to buy an 11/70 recently, so maybe it's reasonable? > > Pat > I was thinking they're not quite that valuable. Has one ever sold for more than even 5000? I admit I have never seen one on ebay or privately for sale to know.
Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:57 PM Glen Slick via cctech < cctech@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 7:49 PM Bill Degnan via cctech > wrote: > > > > Random question > > would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP > > 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11/70, assuming both were complete > > configurations with racks of storage etc as they would have been sold, > more > > or less. > > Random question: > Would you have bought this one if it were maroon instead of blue? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/DEC-PDP-11-70-Datasystem-570-/113553953503?nordt=true_cvip=true Not for $9800, can't afford that much dough. The paddle color does not mean as much to me, more interested in whether it's serviceable and supportable. I don't really have a strong preference other than "can I make this run and do something with it". I just wanted to be sure I was not missing something about the 570 to justify what seems to me to be a high price. There is nothing that I could easily find that distinguishes the 570 from the original version. Thanks for replies... Bill Bill
Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 7:49 PM Bill Degnan via cctech wrote: > > Random question > would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP > 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11/70, assuming both were complete > configurations with racks of storage etc as they would have been sold, more > or less. Random question: Would you have bought this one if it were maroon instead of blue? https://www.ebay.com/itm/DEC-PDP-11-70-Datasystem-570-/113553953503?nordt=true_cvip=true
Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 9:49 PM Bill Degnan via cctech < > cctech@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> Random question >> would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP >> 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11/70, assuming both were complete >> configurations with racks of storage etc as they would have been sold, more >> or less. >> >> Assume space and power are not issues, consider just the machine itself. >> >> Bill >> At first i treated this as troll bait. Then thought about it some. First despite caveats I don't have space so the likelihood is nil. Also its outside what I do collect, that crates conflicts for space, power and documents. The reasons I could give for one or another are multidimensional. Esthetic, the early 11/70 was of an era and that had a look. The later one as well. Historical significance, thats limited to the general model the biggest fastest 11 made but having say serial number 001 or whatever was first off the line for sale is as significant as the last one off the line or both. Also any along the way that had a instruction set or major hardware difference of some historical note. An example of that would be an 11/74 as those were truly rare (maybe 4 assembled). Operational, as in running it. definitely a late model near last built as it would have all the ECOs, be the least old, and should run well Opportunity to save a machine that might be scrapped. In itself thats important and it would be model independent. Being a Qbus 11 collector there are still critters I might gather. Allison
Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 10:49:12PM -0500, Bill Degnan via cctech wrote: > Random question > would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP > 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11/70, assuming both were complete > configurations with racks of storage etc as they would have been sold, more > or less. > > Assume space and power are not issues, consider just the machine itself. Luckily for me the local computer club has both the maroon model in a H960 as well as the blue corporate cab model. So while space is a bit tight I don't have to consider it :) I have spent more time with the H960, so I might be biased. But ignoring any subjective preference for color I do prefer the H960 simply because it is easier to work with, less bulky metal panes to remove in order to gain access to the CPU. And it is easier to move arround. This seems like a very pleasant problem to have, are you facing the choice? /P
Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 2:49 PM Bill Degnan via cctech < cctech@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Random question > would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP > 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11/70, ... > I think the decdatasystem 570 is pretty, but coloured like an ice-cream parlour. I prefer the darker motif of the standard 11/70 posed with a string of RP06 drives, much like the original cover of the PDP-11/70 processor handbook, I think that remains iconic for the "biggest" PDP-11 (biggest for the SSI logic implementations of the mid-1970s).
Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?
H960 Paul On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 9:49 PM Bill Degnan via cctech < cctech@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Random question > would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP > 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11/70, assuming both were complete > configurations with racks of storage etc as they would have been sold, more > or less. > > Assume space and power are not issues, consider just the machine itself. > > Bill >
11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?
Random question would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11/70, assuming both were complete configurations with racks of storage etc as they would have been sold, more or less. Assume space and power are not issues, consider just the machine itself. Bill
