Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-02-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Rob Bogus wrote: There is no doubt that a system can run without hald, if you assume that the administrator is willing to do the same things by hand, and the user understands how to do all the things which hald typically does. Personally i am a non-admin and leave my SuSEs quite as they

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-02-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Matthias Andree wrote: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html#q2 I'll put that into libburn docs. Johannes Meixner's comment quoted by Matthias https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=438867#c23 Why the hell is this HAL stuff always all the time changing arbitrarily ... I

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-02-04 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 04.02.2009, 12:07 Uhr, schrieb Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net: Hi, Matthias Andree wrote: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html#q2 I'll put that into libburn docs. It's not quite the same and also FreeBSD-specific. You don't want that. Johannes Meixner's comment quoted by

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-02-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, It's not quite the same and also FreeBSD-specific. You don't want that. FreeBSD is the other operating system which the libburnia project supports. The bad-hald-experience reports were all from scdbackup users on Linux of different ages and distros. Before hald there were other disturbing

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-02-03 Thread Andy Polyakov
The only code that probably could be called free was growisofs, but growisofs at that time was not under GPL (altough the Author claimed so) because commercial publishing was not allowed. Growisofs is now free, but the change to a real free license was made after the complete cdrecord source

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-02-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
Joerg Schilling wrote: Rob Bogus ro...@tmr.com wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: From zoubi...@hotmail.com Fri Jan 30 21:07:19 2009 You did not install cdrecord correctly as you see from this messages. Cdrecord needs to be installed suid root in order to be able to open all needed

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-02-02 Thread Norbert Preining
Sorry to chime in again. Jörg Schilling is playing the funny guy twisting facts again: On Mo, 02 Feb 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote: 1) cdrecord writes to CDs. 2) cdrecord gets DVD writing code added and becomes cdrecord-ProDVD which is not free software. The free version of cdrecord

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-02-02 Thread Andy Polyakov
The only code that probably could be called free was growisofs, but growisofs at that time was not under GPL (altough the Author claimed so) because commercial publishing was not allowed. Growisofs is now free, but the change to a real free license was made after the complete cdrecord source

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-02-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Greg Wooledge wool...@eeg.ccf.org wrote: Perhaps before the name was used, but there was a fork with DVD capability before cdrecord got the ProDVD code. I used it because I had too many problems with the licensing of ProDVD and couldn't get permission to install it. Well, please

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-02-02 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Try to learn that hald on Linux is broken and acts on wrong status changes. Nothing is ever your fault. Instead of learning from the applications which burn CDs and DVDs without being root, your software has problems with hald and you refuse to

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-02-01 Thread Matthias Andree
Am Samstag, den 31.01.2009, 16:22 +0100 schrieb Joerg Schilling: Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, There always was only one cdrecord source code since it's creation in late 1995. The first DVD support code was added in February 1998 but could not be made OpenSource due

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-02-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Matthias Andree wrote: Debian need not offer resources for someone damaging the project, so how about committing to the action you suggested and have Jörg removed? Debian generously offers a place for technical discussions of CD burning affairs (including CD successor technologies). My due

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-02-01 Thread Joerg Schilling
Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net wrote: Matthias Andree wrote: Debian need not offer resources for someone damaging the project, so how about committing to the action you suggested and have Jörg removed? Debian generously offers a place for technical discussions of CD burning affairs

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 30 Jan 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote: that are responsible for introducing various bugs and license violations call themself Debian packet maintainer. Stop talking nonsense and lies on a debian list, or I will try to get you banned from that list. Best wishes Norbert

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Joerg Schilling
Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote: On Fr, 30 Jan 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote: that are responsible for introducing various bugs and license violations call themself Debian packet maintainer. Stop talking nonsense and lies on a debian list, or I will try to get you banned from

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, There always was only one cdrecord source code since it's creation in late 1995. The first DVD support code was added in February 1998 but could not be made OpenSource due to an NDA. Anyway, the DVD support in cdrecord code became OpenSource long before the fork wodim was created.

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 31 Jan 2009, Thomas Schmitt wrote: So they probably did not take your DVD code because they assumed that it is not under GPL. And right it is. The fork was only done due to the licensing change. Best wishes Norbert

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Rob Bogus
Parker Jones wrote: Hi Thomas, It is advisable to use a different program for DVD purposes. E.g: growisofs, cdrecord, cdrskin, xorriso. (I am author of the latter two.) DVD+RW should be simply writeable via their device file. Try: dd if=newworld.iso bs=2048 of=/dev/dvd Maybe the

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 31 Jan 2009, Rob Bogus wrote: 1 - that the changes from cdrecord to wodim were done by people called Debian packet maintainer Debian Developers. 2 - that those changes don't introduce bugs (or the failures to work are somehow not bugs) That they fixed some bugs, and some bugs are

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Mario
Friends, if we can't live together in harmony, lets just leave each other alone. Truly yours, M. On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 14:47, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote: On Sa, 31 Jan 2009, Rob Bogus wrote: 1 - that the changes from cdrecord to wodim were done by people called Debian

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Rob Bogus
Joerg Schilling wrote: Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, The fork (when started in september 2006) removed the original DVD code and replaced it by something that does not work. I have no idea why the initiators of the fork replaced working code... To my

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Rob Bogus
Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, There always was only one cdrecord source code since it's creation in late 1995. The first DVD support code was added in February 1998 but could not be made OpenSource due to an NDA. Anyway, the DVD support in cdrecord code became OpenSource long before the fork

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Rob Bogus
Norbert Preining wrote: On Fr, 30 Jan 2009, Joerg Schilling wrote: that are responsible for introducing various bugs and license violations call themself Debian packet maintainer. Stop talking nonsense and lies on a debian list, or I will try to get you banned from that list.

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 31 Jan 2009, Rob Bogus wrote: Maybe you and Dr Norbert could take your pissing contest to email and off this list. I don't discuss with Mr Schilling (and he not with me). I just want to get some things straight that are always reiterated here on a Debian list insulting Debian Developers

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Rob Bogus
Joerg Schilling wrote: From zoubi...@hotmail.com Fri Jan 30 21:07:19 2009 You did not install cdrecord correctly as you see from this messages. Cdrecord needs to be installed suid root in order to be able to open all needed devices and in order to send all needed SCSI commands. When

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Joerg Schilling
Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, There always was only one cdrecord source code since it's creation in late 1995. The first DVD support code was added in February 1998 but could not be made OpenSource due to an NDA. Anyway, the DVD support in cdrecord code became OpenSource

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Joerg Schilling
Rob Bogus ro...@tmr.com wrote: I tried cdrecord because growisofs didn't work (see thread about a fortnight ago). So this may not be software related. But it would still be nice to get a clear error message indicating what has gone wrong. I don't think you burner likes this media, but

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Joerg Schilling
Mario mario.da...@gmail.com wrote: Friends, if we can't live together in harmony, lets just leave each other alone. Every time, I see a mail from Mr. Preining, I get the impression that he cannot live in harmony woth other people. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Joerg Schilling
Rob Bogus ro...@tmr.com wrote: It looks as if you are a victim of the FUD spread by Debian :-( There always was only one cdrecord source code since it's creation in late 1995. The first DVD support code was added in February 1998 but could not be made OpenSource due to an NDA.

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Joerg Schilling
Rob Bogus ro...@tmr.com wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: From zoubi...@hotmail.com Fri Jan 30 21:07:19 2009 You did not install cdrecord correctly as you see from this messages. Cdrecord needs to be installed suid root in order to be able to open all needed devices and in order

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Joerg Schilling wrote: If a burner does not like some media, cdrecord usually prints a related SCSI error message. There was no such message in the log send to this list. Parker Jones wrote: Track 01:    0 of 4391 MB written.Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-30 Thread Joerg Schilling
Parker Jones zoubi...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm trying to burn a DVD+RW with cdrecord and get a floating point exception. Can't make out what the error means. Thanks for any suggestions. Parker Platform Ubuntu 8.10 i386 ii wodim 9:1.1.6-1ubuntu6 command line

RE: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-30 Thread Parker Jones
: Joerg Jaspert jo...@debian.org Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:48:06 +0100 From: joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de To: zoubi...@hotmail.com; cdwrite@other.debian.org Subject: Re: cdrecord floating point exception Parker Jones zoubi...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm trying to burn a DVD+RW

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, I'm trying to burn a DVD+RW with cdrecord and get a floating point exception. Can't make out what the error means. You are using wodim, not cdrecord. The floating point error is only a final glitch after writing already failed. Sending CUE sheet... The program has few clue about DVD+RW.

RE: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-30 Thread Parker Jones
Joerg, Thanks for the explanation - it's all a bit over my head; I'm just using what came with my distribution. I have downloaded your cdrtools, built and tried again. Here is the result (still no success). Does this help? Parker ./cdrecord -v -dao speed=1 dev=/dev/dvd ~/newworld.iso

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-30 Thread Joerg Schilling
Parker Jones zoubi...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for your reply Joerg. A defective and illegal fork from ubuntu core developers? Well, you are suffing from one of many bugs in this fork. Your specific problem is caused by the fact that the mature DVD support from the original software

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, I tried cdrecord because growisofs didn't work growisofs not working is a very bad sign for drive and/or media. But it would still be nice to get a clear error message indicating what has gone wrong. We are restricted to what the drive tells our programs. We send SCSI commands and get

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-30 Thread Joerg Schilling
Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net wrote: Sending CUE sheet... The program has few clue about DVD+RW. You probably caused this by option -dao. CDB: 2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 10 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-30 Thread Joerg Schilling
From zoubi...@hotmail.com Fri Jan 30 21:07:19 2009 Joerg, Thanks for the explanation - it's all a bit over my head; I'm just using what came with my distribution. I have downloaded your cdrtools, built and tried again. Here is the result (still no success). Does this help? ./cdrecord -v

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-30 Thread Joerg Schilling
Parker Jones zoubi...@hotmail.com wrote: I tried cdrecord because growisofs didn't work (see thread about a fortnight ago). So this may not be software related. But it would still be nice to get a clear error message indicating what has gone wrong. Without knowing the media manufacturer,

Re: cdrecord floating point exception

2009-01-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, The fork (when started in september 2006) removed the original DVD code and replaced it by something that does not work. I have no idea why the initiators of the fork replaced working code... To my observation the timeline was: - Fork of cdrkit (cdrecord became wodim). - Introduction