Am 21.05.11 14:16, schrieb Alan Bartlett:
On 21 May 2011 13:10, Tor Erlend Pedersen dr.torpeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Someone suggested that I made one of my posts (as username torep) into a
Wiki
So following the instructions in the Contribute page
Username: TorPedersen
Subject:
Am 20.05.11 02:21, schrieb Garry Dale:
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Am 04.05.11 03:07, schrieb Garry Dale:
May I have access to delete my wiki attachments?
Um. I didn't know that there's a special ACL in place for that. Where?
Looks like I would need delete in the ACL for my home page [1], which
Hola Javier,
Me gustaría ver el documento que prepararte sobre los problemas de ancho de
banda y si llégate implementar alguna solución.
Gracias.
Saludos.
-Mensaje original-
De: centos-es-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-es-boun...@centos.org] En
nombre de Javier Iglesias Barban
Saludos comunidad, tengo un problema para autenticar un ldap+samba,
cuando llego a este puento me sale..
durante todo el transcurso de la
configuracion no tuve ningun error. He seguido el manual de la pagina
de www.alcancelibre.org
Que puedo hacer?
smbldap-populate
-a administrator
hola lista tengo el siguiente problema tengo una maquina virtual (fedora 64
bits virtual box) en cual desarrolle un aplicativo en mi hogar al sacar una
copia del disco virtual de mi pc para montarlo en un servidor de maquinas
virtuales hyperview, bueno obiamente guarde la copia en el formato vhd
On 5/22/11, yonatan pingle yonatan.pin...@gmail.com wrote:
the only way to go with SSD is RAID due to these reasons.
it's unlikely that two disks will die at the same time, so it's
possible to use and enjoy them ,
but don't forget to have a fresh backup and a raid array. ( that
should be done
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com wrote:
On 05/20/2011 01:26 PM, Keith Roberts wrote:
I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to use a new SSD
for moving all the disk i/o to, that Linux likes to do so
often.
Just be aware that SSDs wear out. They have a
On 05/22/2011 08:05 PM, Steven Crothers wrote:
I think you're missing the point, if you read between the lines, the
complaint I see is that CentOS (Community Enterprise Operating System)
is not community based whatsoever. Displaying the self-righteous
attitude you are doesn't earn you cookie
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Kevin Thorpe
kevin.tho...@pibenchmark.com wrote:
Just be aware that SSDs wear out. They have a limited number of write
cycles.
Nowadays they all do 'wear levelling' to even the writes across the drive
but
even so they don't last very long in heavy write
On 05/22/2011 09:22 AM, Mailing List wrote:
Thanks,
I'm trying to keep CentOS 5.5 from upgrading to 5.6 because of my
issue with the time sync. I thought I had it figured out till today. I
have tried google for help but with no luck. Can someone point me to a
page or link that
On 05/22/2011 08:05 PM, Steven Crothers wrote:
I think you're missing the point, if you read between the lines, the
complaint I see is that CentOS (Community Enterprise Operating System)
is not community based whatsoever. Displaying the self-righteous
attitude you are doesn't earn you cookie
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
Doesn't SATA and SAS drives also wear out?
Not in such a clear way related to usage. You could have a SATA disk that you
write to 24 hours a day and it could last for years. With an SSD, you'd be
certain to kill your disk in months if you treated it
yonatan pingle wrote:
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Keith Roberts
anyways - if it's for home usage Don't think twice get an SSD .
Why?
I've read most of the articles in this thread,
and I haven't seen anything that persuades me
SSD would be a good investment in my case,
either in servers
On 5/23/11 4:44 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
The community does many, many things for CentOS.
And some of those things could probably be better too, but...
We never said, anywhere, that the community would build the packages,
nor did we say we would teach people how to make the distribution ...
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
Community effort or not, it did once seem like you had goals
for timeliness as well. Are you happy with the current
situation? If more community participation is off the
table, what else could help?
Johnny points out that we get crickets at he
On Sun, 22 May 2011, Gordon Messmer wrote:
To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
From: Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com
Subject: Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
On 05/20/2011 01:26 PM, Keith Roberts wrote:
I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to use a new SSD
R P Herrold wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Les Mikesell wrote:
Community effort or not, it did once seem like you had goals
for timeliness as well. Are you happy with the current
situation? If more community participation is off the
table, what else could help?
Tell you what, Les -- YOU
Keith,
On Friday, May 20, 2011 you wrote:
I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to use a new SSD
for moving all the disk i/o to, that Linux likes to do so
often. Plus putting SWAP onto a decent SSD should speed
things up somewhat.
As far as I understand, SSD are fast at reading and
2011/5/23 Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org:
I have said this a million times ... but you are flat out wrong.
The community does many, many things for CentOS.
It is the community that makes the CentOS Fora one of the best place to
get information.
The community does all the articles on the
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Timothy Murphy wrote:
This seems to me to be an unnecessarily agressive response
to what appeared to me a rational question from Les Mikesell.
But I don't think the fact that a service is free
entitles its proponents to be rude to those using it.
You must be new to this
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Michael Schumacher wrote:
To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
From: Michael Schumacher michael.schumac...@pamas.de
Subject: Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
Keith,
On Friday, May 20, 2011 you wrote:
I'm wondering if it would be a good
Here, we are waiting for CentOS 6 for the discard (trim) option from the new
kernel...
Also, RedHat has some advices:
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/newmds-ssdtuning.html
JD
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CentOS
On 05/23/2011 03:01 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Here, we are asking for someone to get involved with the project. As
usual, the trolls who say CentOS is closed do not volunteer to help
actually do things. Nothing from them but the sound of crickets when we
actually ask for help.
I did.
2011/5/23 R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Timothy Murphy wrote:
This seems to me to be an unnecessarily agressive response
to what appeared to me a rational question from Les Mikesell.
But I don't think the fact that a service is free
entitles its proponents to be
On 05/23/2011 09:08 AM, cornel panceac wrote:
regarding the fact we are not contributing as much as we want to the
project, i'm afraid is basicaly a documentation problem. i'd personally
like to do something to help, but i don't have the required education to
do that.
Fedora provides
R P Herrold wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Timothy Murphy wrote:
This seems to me to be an unnecessarily agressive response
to what appeared to me a rational question from Les Mikesell.
But I don't think the fact that a service is free
entitles its proponents to be rude to those
On 05/23/2011 01:22 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote:
If I'm not mistakened, one issue with using SSD was limited write
cycles of the cells? So two SSD used for repeated rewrite operations
would likely die around the same time, wouldn't they?
An SLC drive with wear leveling should last far longer
On 05/23/2011 02:31 AM, Kevin Thorpe wrote:
Just be aware that SSDs wear out. They have a limited number of write
cycles. Nowadays they all do 'wear levelling' to even the writes
across the drive but even so they don't last very long in heavy write
usage.
Yes, there's a limit number of
On 05/23/2011 09:39 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 05/23/2011 02:31 AM, Kevin Thorpe wrote:
Just be aware that SSDs wear out. They have a limited number of write
cycles. Nowadays they all do 'wear levelling' to even the writes
across the drive but even so they don't last very long in heavy
Jerry Franz wrote:
On 05/23/2011 09:39 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 05/23/2011 02:31 AM, Kevin Thorpe wrote:
Just be aware that SSDs wear out. They have a limited number of write
cycles. Nowadays they all do 'wear levelling' to even the writes
across the drive but even so they don't last
On 05/23/2011 07:23 AM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
As far as I understand, SSD are fast at reading and slow at writing.
A good SSD will be substantially faster at writes than a disk drive, as
well. Because there's no head seeking around a platter, latency is
vastly better, which provides a
How about a fundamental change? A completely open development process
like at Fedora?
Fedora is not suitable to what CentOS is, for several reasons.
1: Fedora is a bleeding-edge engineering development project, CentOS is
a reverse-engineering effort.
2: Fedora is for avid hobbyists, CentOS
2011/5/23 Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com
On 05/23/2011 09:08 AM, cornel panceac wrote:
regarding the fact we are not contributing as much as we want to the
project, i'm afraid is basicaly a documentation problem. i'd personally
like to do something to help, but i don't have the required
Gordon Messmer wrote on 05/23/2011 11:41 AM:
What was it about Patrice's work
that you found unsatisfactory?
I don't think anyone found Patrice's work unsatisfactory. He just
stated that he did not have much time to work on the CentOS-6 LiveCD/DVD
and asked for someone else to take the lead.
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Jerry Franz wrote:
*snip*
However, SSD drive reliability itself has been very poor in the field.
The failure rate is obscene.
See Jeff Atwood's 'The Hot/Crazy Solid State Drive Scale':
URL:http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/05/the-hot-crazy-solid-state-drive-scale.html
On 05/23/2011 10:06 AM, Phil Schaffner wrote:
I don't think anyone found Patrice's work unsatisfactory. He just
stated that he did not have much time to work on the CentOS-6 LiveCD/DVD
and asked for someone else to take the lead.
If it's satisfactory, the live cd would be considered done. If
On 05/22/2011 02:57 PM, R P Herrold wrote:
On Sun, 22 May 2011, Gordon Messmer wrote:
Who said anything about 5.6 breaking the environment? Everyone in the
very long thread gave the excuse that it was done concurrent with other
releases.
customary trolling by Gordon Messmer -- passive
Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 05/22/2011 02:57 PM, R P Herrold wrote:
Having slept on that, I don't think my previous reply was direct to
your
accusation.
snip
My entire participation in the last long thread was directed at users
who have unrealistic expectations of the CentOS release team.
on 5/23/2011 11:02 AM Ljubomir Ljubojevic spake the following:
snip
Then everybody cough on that and started endless flame-war.
I survived the rapture to come back to this? LMAO
http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/outreach/tracts/may21/
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CentOS
On May 23, 2011, at 7:50 AM, R P Herrold wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Timothy Murphy wrote:
This seems to me to be an unnecessarily agressive response
to what appeared to me a rational question from Les Mikesell.
But I don't think the fact that a service is free
entitles its proponents
Scott Silva wrote:
on 5/23/2011 11:02 AM Ljubomir Ljubojevic spake the following:
snip
Then everybody cough on that and started endless flame-war.
I survived the rapture to come back to this? LMAO
http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/outreach/tracts/may21/
What, more flamewars?
The Rapture
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:29 AM, yonatan pingle
yonatan.pin...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Keith
not sure about OCZ reliability for production , but i can confirm
Intel x-25 drives work great with centos ( about 11 month's now ).
I use two drives as /var in md mirror , using it for SQL and logs -
On 05/23/2011 11:01 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
Now, the question is, is is there any way to tell EXT3/4 to use a
separate drive as a cache drive for the same purpose? OR, how about
telling CentOS to use a separate drive for caching purposes in the
same way?
You can use an external journal on a
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Jerry Franz jfr...@freerun.com wrote:
On 05/23/2011 11:01 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
Now, the question is, is is there any way to tell EXT3/4 to use a
separate drive as a cache drive for the same purpose? OR, how about
telling CentOS to use a separate drive for
On 05/23/2011 11:02 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
I was first to suggest that C6.1 **might** be released in **about** a
month from C6.0. Why? Because I suspect that since RHEL 6.1 srpms are
already published, devs could use free time, while waiting for QA team
to find bugs, to dry-run 6.1
On 5/23/2011 1:31 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Then everybody cough on that and started endless flame-war.
I survived the rapture to come back to this? LMAO
http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/outreach/tracts/may21/
What, more flamewars?
The Rapture just *wasn't* what it was cracked up to
On 05/23/11 9:54 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 05/23/2011 07:23 AM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
As far as I understand, SSD are fast at reading and slow at writing.
A good SSD will be substantially faster at writes than a disk drive, as
well. Because there's no head seeking around a platter,
On 05/23/2011 01:44 PM, Jerry Franz wrote:
But, for paranoia's sake, I would RAID1 the SSD with a second SSD.
Quote from
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/newmds-ssdtuning.html
:
Red Hat also warns that software RAID levels
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 02:29:22PM -0500, Robert Nichols wrote:
On 05/23/2011 01:44 PM, Jerry Franz wrote:
But, for paranoia's sake, I would RAID1 the SSD with a second SSD.
Quote from
Les Mikesell wrote:
On 5/23/2011 1:31 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Then everybody cough on that and started endless flame-war.
I survived the rapture to come back to this? LMAO
http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/outreach/tracts/may21/
What, more flamewars?
The Rapture just *wasn't* what it
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
*snip*
ZFS can use a SATA, SAS or SSD drive as cache drive to speed up common
reads writes. I have seen some small improvements even when using a
cheaper grade SATA SAS drive (as part of an experiment). The speed
improvement is quite a bit more evident
On Mon, 23 May 2011, John R Pierce wrote:
To: centos@centos.org
From: John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com
Subject: Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
On 05/23/11 9:54 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 05/23/2011 07:23 AM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
As far as I understand, SSD
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
To: centos@centos.org
From: Ray Van Dolson ra...@bludgeon.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] SSD for Centos SWAP /tmp /var/ partition
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 02:29:22PM -0500, Robert Nichols wrote:
On 05/23/2011 01:44 PM, Jerry Franz wrote:
But, for
On 05/23/11 12:45 PM, Keith Roberts wrote:
Would a defrag program work on a SSD?
for some values of 'work'.as its completely unaware of the internal
block remapping of the SSD, all it would really do would be to churn the
data around.
I've read the only way to reset the block remapping on
Gordon Messmer wrote:
I've never seen the developer suggest that releases are longer because
they don't remember how the last one was finished.
Where on earth did you dig this out? I said they **could** be faster
since it is all fresh in their memory. I was explaining what conclusion
made me
On 05/23/2011 12:27 PM, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
Quote from
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/newmds-ssdtuning.html
:
Red Hat also warns that software RAID levels 1, 4, 5, and 6 are not
recommended for use on SSDs. During
On May 23, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Kevin Thorpe
kevin.tho...@pibenchmark.com wrote:
Just be aware that SSDs wear out. They have a limited number of write
cycles.
Nowadays they all do 'wear levelling' to even the writes across the drive
but
Do note that the server-grade SSDs are far more reliable than
the consumer-grade crap.
mark
mark,
what specific units are considered server grade ssd's ?
have you bought and used them with CentOS? other opsys ?
where are you sourcing and what are you paying?
- rh
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Kevin K kevi...@fidnet.com wrote:
On May 23, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Kevin Thorpe
kevin.tho...@pibenchmark.com wrote:
Just be aware that SSDs wear out. They have a limited number of write
cycles.
Nowadays they
A SSD drive can be a SATA drive. SATA is the connection/protocol between
the drive and the computer.
Not quite. SATA is a type of drive, same as IDE / ATA, SCSI, SATA :)
I disagree. :)
IDE/ATA, SATA, SAS, SCSI are all just interfaces. The underlying
media, whether spinning rust or MLC/SLC
Hi All,
Please feel free to correct any misconceptions in my premises as I get to my
question. I have about 6 ftp services running on a CentOS system that is going
down for service, and I want to move the ftp services to a VM on another
network. These are all running on Proftpd, with fairly
On 5/23/2011 7:03 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
yonatan pingle wrote:
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Keith Roberts
anyways - if it's for home usage Don't think twice get an SSD .
Why?
I've read most of the articles in this thread,
and I haven't seen anything that persuades me
SSD would be
On 5/20/2011 4:00 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On 5/20/11 1:16 PM, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
Git and Gitweb?
Thought of that, is there anything that can monitor for changes so I can
avoid a commit command for every script, as they all dump to an already
well organized tree, I was hoping to monitor
I would like to confirm Matt's claim. I too experienced larger
latencies with Centos 5.x compared to 4.x. My application is very
network sensitive and its easy to prove using lat_tcp.
Russ,
I am curious about identifying the problem. What tools do you
recommend to find where the latency is coming
On Tuesday 24 May 2011 05:24:07 listmail wrote:
Hi All,
Please feel free to correct any misconceptions in my premises as I get to
my question. I have about 6 ftp services running on a CentOS system that
is going down for service, and I want to move the ftp services to a VM on
another
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