Re: [CentOS] About I386 not fitting on one DVD

2011-07-16 Thread Drew
> really, we should have compiler targets for optimizing on the P4 > 'netburst' CPUs and another for the core processors as they are all > pipelined differently.   as it turns out, however, the core 2 and core > I3/5/7 do pretty well with pentium-II and -III style optimization > strategies, as well

Re: [CentOS] About I386 not fitting on one DVD

2011-07-16 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/16/11 7:50 PM, david wrote: > If the I386 (or i686, never could figure out why the name change) I386 was the original 386 CPU, which ran at speeds from 16 to 33Mhz i486 includes a few additional instructions on the 486 processor, and IIRC, ran at speeds from 25 to 100Mhz i586 is the origina

Re: [CentOS] About I386 not fitting on one DVD

2011-07-16 Thread Drew
> If the I386 (or i686, never could figure out why the name change) I think on CentOS/RHEL it's because they dropped support for the 586 & earlier processors. Linux wide there's been a general drop in support for 386 class machines. Something to do with recent versions of glibc and a instruction o

Re: [CentOS] About I386 not fitting on one DVD

2011-07-16 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/16/11 7:50 PM, david wrote: > Just a thought > > If the I386 (or i686, never could figure out why the name change) > disk doesn't quite fit on the DVD+, and needs a DVD-, this might put > some folks at an inconvenience. > > I wonder if the difference between fitting and not fitting is small >

Re: [CentOS] About I386 not fitting on one DVD

2011-07-16 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 19:50 -0700, david wrote: > If the I386 (or i686, never could figure out why the name change) > disk doesn't quite fit on the DVD+, and needs a DVD-, this might put > some folks at an inconvenience. > > I wonder if the difference between fitting and not fitting is small

[CentOS] About I386 not fitting on one DVD

2011-07-16 Thread david
Just a thought If the I386 (or i686, never could figure out why the name change) disk doesn't quite fit on the DVD+, and needs a DVD-, this might put some folks at an inconvenience. I wonder if the difference between fitting and not fitting is small enough, so that some amount of pruning might

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 19:03 -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: > The reality of the situation is that attacks are in almost all cases > non-targeted and are the results of automated scanning; playing security > through obscurity tricks with IP addresses is as futile as attempting to > herd kittens.

[CentOS] Unhandled Exception during Install

2011-07-16 Thread Armelius Cameron
Hello, I am trying to do an NFS install of CentOS 6 on a fairly old / generic machine AMD Athlon XP 1700. I use the CentOS-6.0-i386-netinstall.iso burned to a CD to boot the installation. Only / partition and swap (2 partition) is set on the primary IDE harddrive. I have a PCI SATA card with a 2

Re: [CentOS] SPAM on the List

2011-07-16 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 20:06 -0400, Mark Weaver wrote: > On 7/16/2011 6:50 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > > > > > If there was an automatic ban on List mail containing HTML parts, it is > > likely the latest crap would not be distributed to everyone. > > > > A possible test of the Content-Type: he

Re: [CentOS] SPAM on the List

2011-07-16 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 08:40:37PM -0400, Mark Weaver wrote: > > Oops... my bad. here I set with egg on my face. However they did used to > use a different mailing list package. They did? John -- The things that will destroy America a

Re: [CentOS] SPAM on the List

2011-07-16 Thread Mark Weaver
On 7/16/2011 8:33 PM, KevinO wrote: > On 07/16/2011 05:06 PM, Mark Weaver wrote: >> you mean like the default settings of Mailman list software that the >> CentOS list "doesn't" run on? I have five lists running on one of my >> CentOS servers and crap like that doesn't ever make it to the list. >>

Re: [CentOS] SPAM on the List

2011-07-16 Thread KevinO
On 07/16/2011 05:06 PM, Mark Weaver wrote: > you mean like the default settings of Mailman list software that the > CentOS list "doesn't" run on? I have five lists running on one of my > CentOS servers and crap like that doesn't ever make it to the list. > Mark take a careful look at the foo

Re: [CentOS] SPAM on the List

2011-07-16 Thread Mark Weaver
On 7/16/2011 6:50 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > > If there was an automatic ban on List mail containing HTML parts, it is > likely the latest crap would not be distributed to everyone. > > A possible test of the Content-Type: header for > > multipart/mixed; > > or > > text/html;

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 12:03:52AM +0100, Always Learning wrote: > > If using SSH, FTP, phpmyadmin etc. etc. then DO NOT use the standard > ports. Allocate a different IP address (if you have several) and use a > non-web IP address for SSH and a different non-web IP address for > phpmyadmin etc. W

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 23:43 +0100, Keith Roberts wrote: > Data Driven Attacks Using HTTP Tunneling > > "... HTTP Tunneling Example > > http://www.symantec.com/connect/articles/data-driven-attacks-using-http-tunneling > > Sounds a bit scary to me, as any website needs to have port > 80 open to

Re: [CentOS] SPAM on the List

2011-07-16 Thread Always Learning
If there was an automatic ban on List mail containing HTML parts, it is likely the latest crap would not be distributed to everyone. A possible test of the Content-Type: header for multipart/mixed; or text/html; might stop the spam. -- With best regards,

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, Keith Roberts wrote: > To: CentOS mailing list > From: Keith Roberts > Subject: Re: [CentOS] firewall? > > On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > *snip* > >> I wrote about "physical presence *outside* of your network", like if >> you >> are on a large WISP t

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 13:25 +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: > But, sadly google can't teach someone to start making their own > choices or to think for themselves Learning Linux/Centos on one's own, and without good text books, is a very daunting task even for those with over 40 years computer program

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Markus Falb wrote: > On 16.7.2011 19:37, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Markus Falb wrote: >>> On 16.7.2011 19:03, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >>> All firewalls (on Linux at least) are by default closed, and you need knowledge to punch through the wholes for your public services. >>> This

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Markus Falb
On 16.7.2011 19:37, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Markus Falb wrote: >> On 16.7.2011 19:03, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> >>> All firewalls (on Linux at least) are by default closed, and you need >>> knowledge to punch through the wholes for your public services. >> >> This is complete nonsense! Yo

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-6 dhcpd

2011-07-16 Thread David G . Miller
Timothy Murphy writes: > > > I've installed CentOS-6 on my server > (in parallel to CentOS-5.6) > and now I'm trying to set up dhcpd. > > I'm not sure if there has been a change in dhcpd > under CentOS-6, but I'm getting the dreaded message > "Not configured to listen on any interfaces!" > whe

Re: [CentOS] svnserve with encryption on CentOS

2011-07-16 Thread David Mehler
Hello, Thanks again for your reply. I've done some more reading/googling and from what i'm seeing high security isn't doable with svnserve even with sasl, passwords from the client need to be stored on disk plain, this isn't desirable in my case. Do you host a repository via apache? The problem I

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Keith Roberts wrote: > I read some time ago something about tunneling different > protocols through firewalls? which sounded quite scary. Depends on the tunneling protocol you use, and on what platform you are using. For example, I use vtund package (server-client shema) with simple config to

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Markus Falb wrote: > On 16.7.2011 19:03, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> All firewalls (on Linux at least) are by default closed, and you need >> knowledge to punch through the wholes for your public services. > > This is complete nonsense! You are free to configure a default policy of > accept

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > To: CentOS mailing list > From: Ljubomir Ljubojevic > Subject: Re: [CentOS] firewall? > > Keith Roberts wrote: >> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> >> *snip* >> >>> I wrote about "physical presence *outside* of your network", li

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Markus Falb
On 16.7.2011 19:03, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > All firewalls (on Linux at least) are by default closed, and you need > knowledge to punch through the wholes for your public services. This is complete nonsense! You are free to configure a default policy of accept and forbid only selected servic

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: *snip* >> So what with the router firewall and then the Linux Kernel >> IPtables packet filtering firewall, I actually have two >> firewalls running? >> > > Yes, if ADSL router does firewalling (LAN side has private IP) without > any port redirectio

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Keith Roberts wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > *snip* > >> I wrote about "physical presence *outside* of your network", like if you >> are on a large WISP that uses bridged network (bad design) and your >> Wireless client is bridged, and you have single NIC firewall in

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Keith Roberts wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> To: CentOS mailing list >> From: Ljubomir Ljubojevic >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] firewall? >> >> Rudi Ahlers wrote: >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic >>> wrote: Keith Roberts wrote: > So I

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: *snip* > I wrote about "physical presence *outside* of your network", like if you > are on a large WISP that uses bridged network (bad design) and your > Wireless client is bridged, and you have single NIC firewall in place, > entire WISP's network

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > To: CentOS mailing list > From: Ljubomir Ljubojevic > Subject: Re: [CentOS] firewall? > > Rudi Ahlers wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >>> Keith Roberts wrote: So I guess I could configure my single NIC

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread SZ Quadri
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 3:56 PM, hadi motamedi wrote: > On 7/16/11, SZ Quadri wrote: > > You can use pretty standard tools:- iptables etc. You just need a minimum > > sever install with maybe some web based GUI to manage the box from other > > machines. You can have a look at webmin (www.webmin.

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > To: CentOS mailing list > From: Ljubomir Ljubojevic > Subject: Re: [CentOS] firewall? > > Keith Roberts wrote: >> So I guess I could configure my single NIC Centos 5.6 >> machine connected to a 4 port ADSL router to act as the >> external Gatewa

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Drew wrote: >>> not to mention danger of PC's bypassing your one-NIC firewall and >>> unsafely connecting to the outside. >> That I think is the biggest danger with a one NIC setup. >> >> Linux boxen may be safe(r) (then windows) from being inf

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > The fact is, you can use a Linux firwall with a single NIC, as long as > you use different IP subnets and strong iptables rules to filter > traffic properly between the 2 subnets. > > another scenarion where this is used more and more these days is with > virtualization, where

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Drew wrote: >> not to mention danger of PC's bypassing your one-NIC firewall and >> unsafely connecting to the outside. > > That I think is the biggest danger with a one NIC setup. > > Linux boxen may be safe(r) (then windows) from being infected or > hacked but ju

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Drew
> not to mention danger of PC's bypassing your one-NIC firewall and > unsafely connecting to the outside. That I think is the biggest danger with a one NIC setup. Linux boxen may be safe(r) (then windows) from being infected or hacked but just one malicious machine can bypass the security in plac

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > But if you have public network passing through local area switch, then > there is possibility o hackers using lower network layers to access > unprotected PC's on that local network. Not long-distance hackers, but > in case of physica

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Keith Roberts wrote: >>> So I guess I could configure my single NIC Centos 5.6 >>> machine connected to a 4 port ADSL router to act as the >>> external Gateway for other machine on the LAN side of the >>> router, p

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Keith Roberts wrote: >> So I guess I could configure my single NIC Centos 5.6 >> machine connected to a 4 port ADSL router to act as the >> external Gateway for other machine on the LAN side of the >> router, possibly using NAPT on the

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Keith Roberts wrote: > So I guess I could configure my single NIC Centos 5.6 > machine connected to a 4 port ADSL router to act as the > external Gateway for other machine on the LAN side of the > router, possibly using NAPT on the Centos box? Yes, you can do that. You can also use it as a prox

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Drew wrote: >>> That being said, one should *never* create firewall with only one NIC! >>> It is highly unsafe. >> >> So I shouldn't run a firewall on any of my hundreds of single nic >> instances? > > I think he's referring to the standard router/firewall scenario

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 16 Jul 2011, John R. Dennison wrote: > To: centos@centos.org > From: John R. Dennison > Subject: Re: [CentOS] firewall? > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 01:46:36PM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> >> That being said, one should *never* create firewall with only one NIC! >> It is highly un

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Drew
>> That being said, one should *never* create firewall with only one NIC! >> It is highly unsafe. > > So I shouldn't run a firewall on any of my hundreds of single nic > instances? I think he's referring to the standard router/firewall scenario where the server is an internet gateway for a network

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 01:46:36PM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > That being said, one should *never* create firewall with only one NIC! > It is highly unsafe. So I shouldn't run a firewall on any of my hundreds of single nic instances?

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Fajar Priyanto wrote: >> Do this: >> 1. Make sure your Centos has two network card. One connected to >> internet, one to local lan. Make sure the Centos can already browsing >> internet. >> Example internet: eth0 192.168.1.1 >> local: e

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Fajar Priyanto wrote: > Do this: > 1. Make sure your Centos has two network card. One connected to > internet, one to local lan. Make sure the Centos can already browsing > internet. > Example internet: eth0 192.168.1.1 > local: eth1 192.168.2.1 Just as a FYI, shorewall does support single NIC sys

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread William Warren
On 7/16/2011 12:33 AM, hadi motamedi wrote: > Dear All > I need to put my centos 5.6 server as firewall server in fron of a > windows-running node before connecting it to the net. Can you please > let me know what stuff do I need to put on my centos server? > Thank you > ___

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Rudi Ahlers wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Fajar Priyanto wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >>> You might be interested in shorewall[1]. It has config file and >>> extensive documentation. You tell it what you want and all iptables are >>> automatica

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
hadi motamedi wrote: > On 7/16/11, SZ Quadri wrote: >> You can use pretty standard tools:- iptables etc. You just need a minimum >> sever install with maybe some web based GUI to manage the box from other >> machines. You can have a look at webmin (www.webmin.com) which offers nice >> web interfac

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> You might be interested in shorewall[1]. It has config file and >> extensive documentation. You tell it what you want and all iptables are >> automatically set. It also has webm

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Fajar Priyanto wrote: > On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> You might be interested in shorewall[1]. It has config file and >> extensive documentation. You tell it what you want and all iptables are >> automatically set. It also has webmin module. There are rpm's for Cen

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread B.J. McClure
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 14:56 +0430, hadi motamedi wrote: > > > Thank you for your help. I tried to get it as 'yum install webadmin*' > but unsuccessful. Can you please confirm if the spelling is correct? Google is your friend. A simple search would have revealed: http://www.webmin.com/download

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > You might be interested in shorewall[1]. It has config file and > extensive documentation. You tell it what you want and all iptables are > automatically set. It also has webmin module. There are rpm's for CentOS >  5 but I think they w

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 07:14:09PM +0800, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > > Yeah, some like to find the easiest the shortest the least effort way :) There is a history of Hadi misusing this list; this is by no means the first time. John -- Muc

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
hadi motamedi wrote: > Dear All > I need to put my centos 5.6 server as firewall server in fron of a > windows-running node before connecting it to the net. Can you please > let me know what stuff do I need to put on my centos server? > Thank you > ___ >

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 7:12 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: > Can you at least _try_ to be self-reliant?  Can you at least _try_ and > use google and other resources that you've been pointed to in the past? > > Can you please _try_ to not ask this list to do your job for you?  If > you have specific

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > 2. Activate ip forwarding in /etc/sysconfig/sysctl.conf > net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 > > Run sysctl -r to reload the new setting > typo: should be sysctl -p ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 02:56:59PM +0430, hadi motamedi wrote: > Thank you for your help. I tried to get it as 'yum install webadmin*' > but unsuccessful. Can you please confirm if the spelling is correct? Are we really going to go down this beaten path yet again? Have you learned nothing during

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread Fajar Priyanto
Do this: 1. Make sure your Centos has two network card. One connected to internet, one to local lan. Make sure the Centos can already browsing internet. Example internet: eth0 192.168.1.1 local: eth1 192.168.2.1 2. Activate ip forwarding in /etc/sysconfig/sysctl.conf net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 Run s

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread hadi motamedi
On 7/16/11, SZ Quadri wrote: > You can use pretty standard tools:- iptables etc. You just need a minimum > sever install with maybe some web based GUI to manage the box from other > machines. You can have a look at webmin (www.webmin.com) which offers nice > web interface and is popular in hosting

Re: [CentOS] firewall?

2011-07-16 Thread SZ Quadri
You can use pretty standard tools:- iptables etc. You just need a minimum sever install with maybe some web based GUI to manage the box from other machines. You can have a look at webmin (www.webmin.com) which offers nice web interface and is popular in hosting industry as free admin web ui. - SZQ