Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/01/11 10:37 PM, Ned Slider wrote: >> All I can tell you is that our virtualization licenses allow you to >> > install on 1 host (up to 2 sockets), and on*that* one host you can then >> > install as many RHEL guests as you like and they will all be entitled to >> > updates through RHN with

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Ned Slider
On 02/11/11 05:34, Ned Slider wrote: > On 01/11/11 22:26, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: >> On 11/01/2011 09:36 PM, Ned Slider wrote: >>> On 01/11/11 18:27, Bob Hoffman wrote: David Miller wrote --- You can go with the self support option. Seeing you are wi

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Ned Slider
On 01/11/11 22:26, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > On 11/01/2011 09:36 PM, Ned Slider wrote: >> On 01/11/11 18:27, Bob Hoffman wrote: >>> David Miller wrote >>> --- >>> >>> You can go with the self support option. Seeing you are willing to go with >>> CentOS as long >>> as t

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:47 AM, fred smith wrote: > On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 10:30:57AM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: >> On Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:47 AM, David Hrbáč wrote: >>> Dne 1.11.2011 17:27, Akemi Yagi napsal(a): Real "problem" with recent release troubles with CentOS

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread fred smith
On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 10:30:57AM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:47 AM, David Hrbáč wrote: > > Dne 1.11.2011 17:27, Akemi Yagi napsal(a): > >> Real "problem" with recent release troubles with CentOS is that some > >> (or many?) are migrating to Ubuntu/Debian ra

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, November 02, 2011 12:47 AM, David Hrbáč wrote: > Dne 1.11.2011 17:27, Akemi Yagi napsal(a): >> Real "problem" with recent release troubles with CentOS is that some >> (or many?) are migrating to Ubuntu/Debian rather than to other RHEL >> clones, which might eventually hurt the entire

Re: [CentOS] VirtualBox on CentOS 6.0?

2011-11-01 Thread Joseph L. Casale
>Any tips/tricks concerning it? While I am used to using esx, I am forced to use vb on my wkst at my new gig and can tell you there are age old bugs that have never been resolved with respect to snap shot children not being cleaned up properly and the xml config while having a nice programatic int

[CentOS] VirtualBox on CentOS 6.0?

2011-11-01 Thread David McGuffey
I have an older quad-core AMD processor that supports hardware virtualization on a motherboard that does not support it in the bios. Eventually I'll swap the mobo out on this box for one that will support hardware virtualization and use qemu-kvm. I prefer kvm because of SELinux and sVirt that prot

Re: [CentOS] SELinux and SETroubleshootd woes in CR

2011-11-01 Thread Trey Dockendorf
> > Do you have the > > > allow_httpd_mod_auth_pam > > boolean turned on? > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk6wVZgACgkQrlYvE4MpobOg8gCgzbPmuUBJJ20iBhAQnCoTvZVU > NfUAoLz5TplWxxf

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/01/11 3:26 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > Just to be sure does that mean that for $2000 I can install on one physical > system and unlimited guests on that system or does that mean the $2000 are > only for the host system with the*ability* to host an unlimited number of > guests and I st

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread David C. Miller
- Original Message - > From: "Johnny Hughes" > To: centos@centos.org > Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 2:12:15 PM > Subject: Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos > > On 11/01/2011 03:50 PM, Brian Mathis wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Rob Kampen > > wrote: > >> Tony Mountifield wro

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Digimer
On 11/01/2011 06:26 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > On 11/01/2011 09:36 PM, Ned Slider wrote: >> On 01/11/11 18:27, Bob Hoffman wrote: >>> David Miller wrote >>> --- >>> >>> You can go with the self support option. Seeing you are willing to go with >>> CentOS as long >>>

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 11/01/2011 09:36 PM, Ned Slider wrote: > On 01/11/11 18:27, Bob Hoffman wrote: >> David Miller wrote >> --- >> >> You can go with the self support option. Seeing you are willing to go with >> CentOS as long >> as there are timely updates. That tells me you dont really ca

Re: [CentOS] SELinux and SETroubleshootd woes in CR

2011-11-01 Thread Trey Dockendorf
> > Do you have the > > > allow_httpd_mod_auth_pam > > boolean turned on? > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk6wVZgACgkQrlYvE4MpobOg8gCgzbPmuUBJJ20iBhAQnCoTvZVU > NfUAoLz5TplWxxf

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 11/01/2011 03:50 PM, Brian Mathis wrote: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Rob Kampen wrote: >> Tony Mountifield wrote: >>> In article >>> , >>> Brian Mathis wrote: When Redhat announced the changes they made it very clear they were trying to prevent other companies (like Oracle

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Brian Mathis
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Rob Kampen wrote: > Tony Mountifield wrote: >> In article >> , >> Brian Mathis wrote: >>> >>> When Redhat announced the changes they made it very clear they were >>> trying to prevent other companies (like Oracle and Novell) who were >>> providing support to RHEL c

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Ned Slider
On 01/11/11 18:27, Bob Hoffman wrote: > David Miller wrote > --- > > You can go with the self support option. Seeing you are willing to go with > CentOS as long > as there are timely updates. That tells me you dont really care about getting > "support" from >the vendor

Re: [CentOS] SELinux and SETroubleshootd woes in CR

2011-11-01 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/01/2011 04:16 PM, Trey Dockendorf wrote: > I'm setting up a dedicated database server, and since this will be > a central service to my various web servers I wanted it to be as > secure as possible...so I am leaving SELinux enabled. However I'm

[CentOS] SELinux and SETroubleshootd woes in CR

2011-11-01 Thread Trey Dockendorf
I'm setting up a dedicated database server, and since this will be a central service to my various web servers I wanted it to be as secure as possible...so I am leaving SELinux enabled. However I'm having trouble getting Apache to use mod_auth_pam. I also now can't get setroubleshootd working to

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Eero Volotinen
2011/11/1 David Hrbáč : > Dne 1.11.2011 17:27, Akemi Yagi napsal(a): >> Real "problem" with recent release troubles with CentOS is that some >> (or many?) are migrating to Ubuntu/Debian rather than to other RHEL >> clones, which might eventually hurt the entire Red Hat community. > > Well, there ar

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 4 Dovecot Problem

2011-11-01 Thread Scott Silva
on 11/1/2011 10:30 AM Grant McChesney spake the following: > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:19 AM, John Hinton wrote: > >> For those of you that still are running CentOS 4... I have one system >> that is still going... there is a problem with the newest release of >> Dovecot under mbox. Certain spam i

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/01/11 12:09 PM, fred smith wrote: > Also, one wonders, since most of it is GPL (or gpl-compatible), how can > they place acceptable use policies on it? (some of the non-gpl parts, sure, > but...) the AUP is on the services that RH provides. -- john r pierceN 37

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread fred smith
On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 01:57:29PM -0400, Rob Kampen wrote: > Tony Mountifield wrote: > >In article > >, > >Brian Mathis wrote: > > > >>When Redhat announced the changes they made it very clear they were > >>trying to prevent other companies (like Oracle and Novell) who were > >>providing suppo

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Digimer
On 11/01/2011 02:27 PM, Bob Hoffman wrote: > David Miller wrote > --- > > You can go with the self support option. Seeing you are willing to go with > CentOS as long > as there are timely updates. That tells me you dont really care about getting > "support" from > the v

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Bob Hoffman
David Miller wrote --- You can go with the self support option. Seeing you are willing to go with CentOS as long as there are timely updates. That tells me you dont really care about getting "support" from the vendor. You can pick up workstation self support for $50 and

Re: [CentOS] NSS ldap problems [SOLVED]

2011-11-01 Thread Mitch Patenaude
Thanks to everybody for their suggestions, and for the pointer to getent, which was a gap in my sysadmin toolchest. I figured out the problem. The problem was that nslcd wasn't starting properly because the nslcd user didn't exist. We're using the same base passwd file for both centos5 and ce

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Rob Kampen
Tony Mountifield wrote: In article , Brian Mathis wrote: When Redhat announced the changes they made it very clear they were trying to prevent other companies (like Oracle and Novell) who were providing support to RHEL customers at reduced rates. They have never said they were concerned wit

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/01/11 9:47 AM, David Hrbáč wrote: > Well, there are no other RHEL clones except SL/Centos. Oracle Enterprise Linux -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailing

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 4 Dovecot Problem

2011-11-01 Thread Grant McChesney
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:19 AM, John Hinton wrote: > For those of you that still are running CentOS 4... I have one system > that is still going... there is a problem with the newest release of > Dovecot under mbox. Certain spam is causing this error when users try to > log on. > > file lib.c:

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread David C. Miller
- Original Message - > From: "Bob Hoffman" > To: "CentOS mailing list" > Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:46:57 PM > Subject: [CentOS] redhat vs centos > > I have been reading the threads on here with great ernest about > redhat > making a move to throw off centos compilations. > I re

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/01/2011 05:27 PM, Akemi Yagi piše: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Vreme: 11/01/2011 04:50 PM, Digimer piše: >>> On 11/01/2011 01:46 AM, Bob Hoffman wrote: I have been reading the threads on here with great ernest about redhat making a move to th

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread David Hrbáč
Dne 1.11.2011 17:27, Akemi Yagi napsal(a): > Real "problem" with recent release troubles with CentOS is that some > (or many?) are migrating to Ubuntu/Debian rather than to other RHEL > clones, which might eventually hurt the entire Red Hat community. Well, there are no other RHEL clones except SL

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Digimer
On 11/01/2011 12:27 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> Vreme: 11/01/2011 04:50 PM, Digimer piše: >>> On 11/01/2011 01:46 AM, Bob Hoffman wrote: I have been reading the threads on here with great ernest about redhat making a move to throw

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Vreme: 11/01/2011 04:50 PM, Digimer piše: >> On 11/01/2011 01:46 AM, Bob Hoffman wrote: >>> I have been reading the threads on here with great ernest about redhat >>> making a move to throw off centos compilations. >> >> Having spoken to

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Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/01/2011 04:50 PM, Digimer piše: > On 11/01/2011 01:46 AM, Bob Hoffman wrote: >> I have been reading the threads on here with great ernest about redhat >> making a move to throw off centos compilations. > > Having spoken to folks at Red Hat in an unofficial capacity, I strongly > believe t

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Digimer
On 11/01/2011 01:46 AM, Bob Hoffman wrote: > I have been reading the threads on here with great ernest about redhat > making a move to throw off centos compilations. Having spoken to folks at Red Hat in an unofficial capacity, I strongly believe that CentOS is appreciated by Red Hat. Changes Red

Re: [CentOS] NSS ldap problems

2011-11-01 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Mon, 31 Oct 2011, Mitch Patenaude wrote: > I'm having trouble setting up ldap based authenication. > > I have a virtual (KVM) CentOS 5.4 box set up to authenticate to a > 389 (fedora) directory server, and that works fine. > > However, I set up a virtual box running CentOS 6, and I can't get i

Re: [CentOS] What happened to 6.1

2011-11-01 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: > > No clone distros, including CentOS and Scientific Linux, are perfect. > If someone asks which of the two has a better binary compatibility, I > would answer, "they are equally good". One of the 'selling points' as a big reason to use open sou

Re: [CentOS] What happened to 6.1

2011-11-01 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Peter Peltonen wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Mathieu Baudier wrote: >>> If absolute 100% binary compatibility is not required, but admin-level >>> compatibility and source-level compatibility with upstream EL is, >>> Scientific Linux is coveri

Re: [CentOS] Duplicated packages in CR repo?

2011-11-01 Thread Patrick Hurrelmann
On 01.11.2011 11:46, Karanbir Singh wrote: > hi Patrick, > > On 10/31/2011 11:29 AM, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote: >> thanks for quickly handling this. But aren't the updated xorg-x11-server >> packages now missing in total? Or are they not yet ready for >> cr? > > They are missing from the CR repo n

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article , Brian Mathis wrote: > > When Redhat announced the changes they made it very clear they were > trying to prevent other companies (like Oracle and Novell) who were > providing support to RHEL customers at reduced rates. They have never > said they were concerned with the free clones a

Re: [CentOS] What happened to 6.1

2011-11-01 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/01/2011 11:02 AM, Peter Peltonen piše: > Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Mathieu Baudier wrote: >>> If absolute 100% binary compatibility is not required, but admin-level >>> compatibility and source-level compatibility with upstream EL is, >>> Scientific Linux is covering tha

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Brian Mathis
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Eero Volotinen wrote: > 2011/11/1 Dennis Jacobfeuerborn : >> On 11/01/2011 06:53 AM, Eero Volotinen wrote: >>> 2011/11/1 Bob Hoffman: I have been reading the threads on here with great ernest about redhat making a move to throw off centos compilations. >>>

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Eero Volotinen
2011/11/1 Dennis Jacobfeuerborn : > On 11/01/2011 06:53 AM, Eero Volotinen wrote: >> 2011/11/1 Bob Hoffman: >>> I have been reading the threads on here with great ernest about redhat >>> making a move to throw off centos compilations. >>> I read some stories about microsoft wanting to work closer w

Re: [CentOS] redhat vs centos

2011-11-01 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 11/01/2011 06:53 AM, Eero Volotinen wrote: > 2011/11/1 Bob Hoffman: >> I have been reading the threads on here with great ernest about redhat >> making a move to throw off centos compilations. >> I read some stories about microsoft wanting to work closer with centos >> http://www.theregister.co.

Re: [CentOS] Duplicated packages in CR repo?

2011-11-01 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi Patrick, On 10/31/2011 11:29 AM, Patrick Hurrelmann wrote: > thanks for quickly handling this. But aren't the updated xorg-x11-server > packages now missing in total? Or are they not yet ready for > cr? They are missing from the CR repo now, I've got the srpm and debug info stuff going out at

Re: [CentOS] What happened to 6.1

2011-11-01 Thread Peter Peltonen
Hi, On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Mathieu Baudier wrote: >> If absolute 100% binary compatibility is not required, but admin-level >> compatibility and source-level compatibility with upstream EL is, Scientific >> Linux is covering that niche, and has their 6.1 out. > > In which concrete use

Re: [CentOS] NSS ldap problems

2011-11-01 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Trey Dockendorf wrote: > One difference I ran into with samba authentication is in cent 5 > /etc/pam.d/system-auth-ac is the file to change but in cent 6 its > /etc/pam.d/password-auth-ac. I found that changes I made only to > system-auth-ac in 5 had to be made to both system-

Re: [CentOS] What happened to 6.1

2011-11-01 Thread Mathieu Baudier
> If absolute 100% binary compatibility is not required, but admin-level > compatibility and source-level compatibility with upstream EL is, Scientific > Linux is covering that niche, and has their 6.1 out. In which concrete use cases is 100% binary compatibility important? _