Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Cliff Pratt
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 17:18 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > > > > On the other hand, what justifiable reason was there for the > massively > > > > increased complexity of grub2? And why do all configuration files > > > > suddenly *des

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 18:14:56 -0300 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore? And, would > you care strongly if it went away (or would you just migrate to something > else)? > Please don't remove it. Why this sudde

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Always Learning
On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 17:18 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > > On the other hand, what justifiable reason was there for the massively > > > increased complexity of grub2? And why do all configuration files > > > suddenly *desperately* need to be xml? On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Always Le

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Cliff Pratt
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Always Learning wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 17:18 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > > > On the other hand, what justifiable reason was there for the massively > > increased complexity of grub2? And why do all configuration files > suddenly > > *desperately* ne

Re: [CentOS] rsync triggers oomkiller

2014-03-21 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:31 PM, SilverTip257 wrote: > >> Before very recent versions of rsync (not sure exactly when it >> changed), it would load the entire tree listing from both sides into >> memory before walking them for the comparison. What's the destination >> side look like? Maybe you

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2014-03-21 at 08:33 -0400, James B. Byrne wrote: > On Thu, March 20, 2014 17:34, Always Learning wrote: > > > > Nothing remains static. Software evolves into usually superior products. > > Sentimentally longing for the past hampers the introduction of new and > > better replacements. > >

Re: [CentOS] biosdevname

2014-03-21 Thread SilverTip257
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Warren Young wrote: > On 3/20/2014 10:33, SilverTip257 wrote: > > > > And an interface should only be detected as pXpY if it's a PCI NIC. > > THOUGH I've seen it already where an onboard NIC in a Lenovo desktop was > > detected as p5p1. > > Just because the MAC ch

Re: [CentOS] rsync triggers oomkiller

2014-03-21 Thread SilverTip257
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:49 AM, John Doe wrote: > > >>>kernel: rsync invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x200da, order=0, > oom_adj=0, > >>> oom_score_adj=0 > >>>... > >>>kernel: Out of memory: Kill process 27974 (mysqld) score

Re: [CentOS] biosdevname

2014-03-21 Thread Warren Young
On 3/20/2014 10:33, SilverTip257 wrote: > > And an interface should only be detected as pXpY if it's a PCI NIC. > THOUGH I've seen it already where an onboard NIC in a Lenovo desktop was > detected as p5p1. Just because the MAC chip is soldered to the motherboard doesn't mean it can't be on the P

Re: [CentOS] OT: DELL PERC H200

2014-03-21 Thread John R Pierce
On 3/21/2014 2:52 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Does anyone know if a PERC H200 is a real RAID controller? I'm about to > build a box to CentOS 6.5 (it was Windows...) with RAID 6 on Monday, and > this PE R610 has this I'm familiar with PERC 6 and 7s, but just dunno > 'bout this one. if it do

Re: [CentOS] OT: DELL PERC H200

2014-03-21 Thread m . roth
Digimer wrote: > On 21/03/14 05:52 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> Does anyone know if a PERC H200 is a real RAID controller? I'm about to >> build a box to CentOS 6.5 (it was Windows...) with RAID 6 on Monday, and >> this PE R610 has this I'm familiar with PERC 6 and 7s, but just >> dunno 'bou

Re: [CentOS] OT: DELL PERC H200

2014-03-21 Thread Digimer
On 21/03/14 05:52 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Does anyone know if a PERC H200 is a real RAID controller? I'm about to > build a box to CentOS 6.5 (it was Windows...) with RAID 6 on Monday, and > this PE R610 has this I'm familiar with PERC 6 and 7s, but just dunno > 'bout this one. > >

[CentOS] OT: DELL PERC H200

2014-03-21 Thread m . roth
Does anyone know if a PERC H200 is a real RAID controller? I'm about to build a box to CentOS 6.5 (it was Windows...) with RAID 6 on Monday, and this PE R610 has this I'm familiar with PERC 6 and 7s, but just dunno 'bout this one. mark ___

Re: [CentOS] Linux malware attack

2014-03-21 Thread m . roth
Thomas Harold wrote: > On 3/19/2014 2:50 PM, Ned Slider wrote: >> >> Just to add, I'm sure everyone has already read and implemented many of >> the suggestions here: >> >> http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH >> >> Numbers 2 and 7 have already been highlighted in this thread. > > #1 Th

Re: [CentOS] Linux malware attack

2014-03-21 Thread Thomas Harold
On 3/19/2014 2:50 PM, Ned Slider wrote: > > Just to add, I'm sure everyone has already read and implemented many of > the suggestions here: > > http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH > > Numbers 2 and 7 have already been highlighted in this thread. > #1 These days I would say that

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > Yes, but that reason is generally that someone changed the language > syntax underneath it instead of settling on simple working APIs. > What has actually stayed stable and backwards compatible over the > years other than bourne shell syntax

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:54 PM, James A. Peltier wrote: >> > The case is being made to remove a tool that is considered to be legacy. > While it is understood that legacy = old/unmaintained/crap, No, legacy = the foundation everything else builds on. Change it at the risk of forcing everyone

Re: [CentOS] mellanox ofed on centos kernel 3.x

2014-03-21 Thread Andrew Holway
On 21 March 2014 19:03, Robert Clove wrote: > I have an VPI card and will ofed ofed convert the infiniband ports to > Ethernet ports. I'm pretty sure it will. Check the docs! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/list

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Max Pyziur
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 3:54 PM, James A. Peltier wrote: > >> >> I'd love to hear about the "old and unmaintainable code". It's open >> source code. If somethings broken you can fix it right!?! That's the open >> source mantra! Either provide a set

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 3:54 PM, James A. Peltier wrote: > > I'd love to hear about the "old and unmaintainable code". It's open > source code. If somethings broken you can fix it right!?! That's the open > source mantra! Either provide a set of reasons why it should be removed > and the alter

Re: [CentOS] mellanox ofed on centos kernel 3.x

2014-03-21 Thread Robert Clove
I have an VPI card and will ofed ofed convert the infiniband ports to Ethernet ports. On Saturday, March 22, 2014, Andrew Holway wrote: > On 21 March 2014 18:24, Robert Clove > > wrote: > > Will non ofed also work as mellanox ofed or any other difference will I > > face ? > > The Mellanox OFED s

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore? And, | would | you care strongly if it went away (or would you just migrate to | something | else)? | Yes, we do use TCP Wrappers. We also use IPTables, edge gateway firewalls, VPNs and other tools. T

Re: [CentOS] mellanox ofed on centos kernel 3.x

2014-03-21 Thread Andrew Holway
On 21 March 2014 18:24, Robert Clove wrote: > Will non ofed also work as mellanox ofed or any other difference will I > face ? The Mellanox OFED stack is a development version maintained by Mellanox whereas the "OFED OFED" is maintained by the OpenFabrics Enterprise Distribution which is a consor

Re: [CentOS] mellanox ofed on centos kernel 3.x

2014-03-21 Thread Robert Clove
Will non ofed also work as mellanox ofed or any other difference will I face ? Where to get other ofed ? On Friday, March 21, 2014, Andrew Holway wrote: > On 21 March 2014 18:08, Robert Clove > > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Has anyone installed mellanox ofed on linux kernel 3.x? > > I hear those

Re: [CentOS] mellanox ofed on centos kernel 3.x

2014-03-21 Thread Andrew Holway
On 21 March 2014 18:08, Robert Clove wrote: > Hi all, > > Has anyone installed mellanox ofed on linux kernel 3.x? I hear those guys over in Ubuntu land do that kind of thing a lot. Why Mellanox OFED and non OFED OFED? Ta Andrew > > > Regards > ___ >

[CentOS] mellanox ofed on centos kernel 3.x

2014-03-21 Thread Robert Clove
Hi all, Has anyone installed mellanox ofed on linux kernel 3.x? Regards ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] rsync triggers oomkiller

2014-03-21 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:49 AM, John Doe wrote: >>>kernel: rsync invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x200da, order=0, oom_adj=0, >>> oom_score_adj=0 >>>... >>>kernel: Out of memory: Kill process 27974 (mysqld) score 361 or >>> sacrifice child >>>kernel: Killed process 27974, UID

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:33 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: > >> >> Nothing remains static. Software evolves into usually superior products. >> Sentimentally longing for the past hampers the introduction of new and >> better replacements. > > Yes. For example look how MicroSoft has improved Windows sin

Re: [CentOS] Want to create custom iso

2014-03-21 Thread Anant
Hi Guys, I have made custom Centos DVD , I have copied ks.cfg in top directory of my DVD. and it is working fine. My ks.cfg looks like : %post --log=/root/my-post-log yum remove libreoffice* -y ; /usr/bin/wget http://210.X.X.52/LibreOffice_4.1.5_Linux_x86-64_rpm.tar.gz ; tar -xvzf LibreOffice_

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014, Keith Keller wrote: >On 2014-03-21, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> >> Interesting double negative. Implies that once the "technical barriers" are >> removed, then it's OK to remove old features for change's sake. ;) > >If, as Matthew says, the codebase hasn't been maintained since

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >Larry Martell wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:33 AM, James B. Byrne >> wrote: ... >>> Yes. For example look how MicroSoft has improved Windows since >>> XPsp3.;-^) >> >> I wouldn't know. I don't use it. I've been programming professionally >> sinc

Re: [CentOS] rsync triggers oomkiller

2014-03-21 Thread John Doe
From: SilverTip257 > To: CentOS mailing list > Cc: > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 5:40 PM > Subject: Re: [CentOS] rsync triggers oomkiller > > I added a subject so we can track this message on the list easier. ;) > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:19 PM, John Doe wrote: > >> Hey, >> >>   ker

Re: [CentOS] Tar Compression issue

2014-03-21 Thread SilverTip257
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Fred Smith wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:55:33AM +, Andrew Holway wrote: > > Dear Bonnie, > > > > Your not getting an answer because the emails you are sending look > > like spam to most email filters. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: [CentOS] rsync triggers oomkiller

2014-03-21 Thread SilverTip257
I added a subject so we can track this message on the list easier. ;) On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:19 PM, John Doe wrote: > Hey, > > kernel: rsync invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x200da, order=0, oom_adj=0, > oom_score_adj=0 > ... > kernel: Out of memory: Kill process 27974 (mysqld) score 361

[CentOS] (no subject)

2014-03-21 Thread John Doe
Hey,   kernel: rsync invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x200da, order=0, oom_adj=0, oom_score_adj=0   ...   kernel: Out of memory: Kill process 27974 (mysqld) score 361 or sacrifice child   kernel: Killed process 27974, UID 27, (mysqld) total-vm:3804672kB, anon-rss:2890828kB, file-rss:3324kB rsync

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 03/20/2014 12:48 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore? And, would > you care strongly if it went away (or would you just migrate to something > else)? > > I bring this up because we are discussing dropping it from Fedora. This > would be far e

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Gilbert Sebenste
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014, Leon Fauster wrote: > its just used in a multiple layer protection / security model. Bingo! Same here. And it works well! > well i would say its more scary when humans are editing configuration files > :-) I can speak for nearly 20 years of experience on this, including bl

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > >> The technical problem is that there's no maintainer. Are you >> volunteering (and capable)? >> > > Then, for crying out loud... :) this discussion should have been started > with a different subject line: > "Looking for a new tcp wrappe

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 20.03.2014 um 22:22 schrieb Matthew Miller : > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 06:14:56PM -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> Please don't remove it. Why this sudden idea in software circles that >> stuff that works properly needs to be removed for no reason whatsoever >> other than "it's old and we think

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Keith Keller < kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote: > The technical problem is that there's no maintainer. Are you > volunteering (and capable)? > Then, for crying out loud... :) this discussion should have been started with a different subject line: "Look

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 09:29:01AM -0400, John Jasen wrote: > https://benchmarks.cisecurity.org/tools2/linux/CIS_RHEL5_Benchmark_v1.1.pdf > Also note, agencies or groups required to implement CIS or better who > maintain a mixed environment may also use tcp_wrappers on all their > platforms, as fro

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread John Jasen
On 03/20/2014 06:23 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: > Not sure there's a one-to-one mapping or even a conceptual overlap in > what tcpwrappers and iptables do. Applications can be configured to > use different ports than someone setting up iptables might expect - > and how would you handle portmapper? >

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread John Jasen
On 03/20/2014 04:13 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 04:00:49PM -0400, John Jasen wrote: >> Various government entities may use it extensively. I don't recall if >> tcp_wrappers is in the USGCB baselines for RHEL, but I do believe its in >> several CIS benchmarks. > > Good quest

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread m . roth
Larry Martell wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:33 AM, James B. Byrne > wrote: >> >> On Thu, March 20, 2014 17:34, Always Learning wrote: >>> >>> Nothing remains static. Software evolves into usually superior >>> products. Sentimentally longing for the past hampers the introduction of new and >>>

Re: [CentOS] Tar Compression issue

2014-03-21 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:55:33AM +, Andrew Holway wrote: > Dear Bonnie, > > Your not getting an answer because the emails you are sending look > like spam to most email filters. > > Thanks, > > Andrew > > > > > > On 18 March 2014 09:22, Bonnie B Mtengwa wrote: > > I have a file Serve

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:37 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Thu, March 20, 2014 18:52, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> xml isn't intended for humans - it is supposed to be parsed and >> verified by machines. The bigger question is why the machines aren't >> managing the config files themselves yet? >>

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:33 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Thu, March 20, 2014 17:34, Always Learning wrote: >> >> >> Nothing remains static. Software evolves into usually superior products. >> Sentimentally longing for the past hampers the introduction of new and >> better replacements. > > Ye

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread John R. Dennison
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 08:33:19AM -0400, James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Thu, March 20, 2014 17:34, Always Learning wrote: > > > > > > Nothing remains static. Software evolves into usually superior products. > > Sentimentally longing for the past hampers the introduction of new and > > better replac

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread James B. Byrne
On Thu, March 20, 2014 18:52, Les Mikesell wrote: > xml isn't intended for humans - it is supposed to be parsed and > verified by machines. The bigger question is why the machines aren't > managing the config files themselves yet? > Possibly because the machines are running programs written by h

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread James B. Byrne
On Thu, March 20, 2014 17:34, Always Learning wrote: > > > Nothing remains static. Software evolves into usually superior products. > Sentimentally longing for the past hampers the introduction of new and > better replacements. Yes. For example look how MicroSoft has improved Windows since XPsp3.

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Phelps, Matt
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore? And, would > you care strongly if it went away (or would you just migrate to something > else)? > > I bring this up because we are discussing dropping it from Fedora. This > wou

Re: [CentOS] Tar Compression issue

2014-03-21 Thread Andrew Holway
Dear Bonnie, Your not getting an answer because the emails you are sending look like spam to most email filters. Thanks, Andrew On 18 March 2014 09:22, Bonnie B Mtengwa wrote: > I have a file Server CentOS 5.10, its on the internet, so I compress all csv > into one file using (tar -czvf co

Re: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) anymore?

2014-03-21 Thread Sorin Srbu
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf Of Matthew Miller > Sent: den 20 mars 2014 20:49 > To: centos@centos.org > Subject: [CentOS] Does anyone use tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/hosts.deny) > anymore? > > Does anyone use tcp wrapper